Francis Coles

[How Brown]

Forum for this February 13th,1891 murder victim here.....

[Currerbell]

Isnt she believed to be the 'prettiest' of the fallen women to do with JTR....her mortuary pic...I mean...though I hope people dont get the wrong idea...she does look more at peace than the other poor women...

[How Brown]

I think by your comment "more at peace" you mean less in pieces than the other victims,don't you Currerbell?:kiss:

[ferret]

Frances Coles has always fascinated me- she has a rather 20th Century face- and that engraving of her and Sadler in the kitchen I always find so touching- there's real affection there.

See what I mean- she could be in any sitcom..allowing for the artist over exagerating her jawline maybe. (Having said that p'raps she did have a 'jawline of note'!

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac287/HowieNina/fc1x.jpg


http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac287/HowieNina/FC.jpg


That is so tender and sad- Thomas's hand on her back is beautiful and the sadness is unbearable....you can almost see those shoulders slowly heaving as she cries.

There's a wonderful tenderness there which says to me that Sadler didn't have a hand in the whole affair.

[ferret]

See what I mean!!!

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac287/HowieNina/fc1.jpg

She's lovely! Blesser! x

Clumsy bit of Paint work there (sorry!)

[ferret]

Isnt she believed to be the 'prettiest' of the fallen women to do with JTR....her mortuary pic...I mean...though I hope people dont get the wrong idea...she does look more at peace than the other poor women...

Sorry but 'Prettiness' with reference to any murder victim- should never come into this Currerbell!:nono:... and ' more at peace' is probably more down to the skill of the mortuary men and the photographer's quickly snatched moments.

[Currerbell]

But the drawings aren't of her in real life, they are made up...and dont even look like her in the mortuary photo...thats just an artist fantasising...she is being idealised...

maybe I should have put the word pretty in commas...oh I did...

[Currerbell]

How do u know Sadler wasnt involved?? Just cause he has his hand on her back in a drawing?!

Do we know who drew them??? It wasnt for a newspaper was it?

[ferret]

Anyway there's a lot more going in and around Frances and her life that needs dealing with. Thomas Sadler was a dodgy character without a doubt but a killer NO IMHO Check out Rob and Phil's book on the subject- anyway - back to other things:tape:

[Currerbell]

Ahh ok....whats the book called by them?? Not the Then and Now book is it? I have that one...

[ferret]

Yes that's the one

[ferret]

That's THE book!!

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac287/HowieNina/book.jpg

[Currerbell]

got it...will check out the Coles section....