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Jeff Leahy
09-02-2011, 05:52 PM
There seems to be lots of Tweets circulating that Aaron Kosminski is no longer a credible ripper suspect?

Is there any truth or basis for these claims?

Or is it just more hot air being forwarded by certain individuals with a finacial interest for doing so?

I assume that it is as I've seen nothing new on the subject and have experienced nothing but useless hot air on the subject..

But if someone has something of substance?

Well this would be a good place to make that claim :car:

Otherwise I will dismiss these claims as 'Bollocks' in fourth coming publicity

good luck Trevor and Phil

Yours Jeff

PS the actual mark of a charliton is someone unwilling to engage in frank and open debate on public forum...both of which two people seem to suffer from?

PS PS having read the tweets in further detail I might ow one of the individuals an apology, but please what is the new information on Aarom Kosminski that makes him a less likely suspect?

because actually there is NOTHING is there?

Jeff Leahy
09-02-2011, 06:09 PM
I would say that I am not trying to bolster my own suspect at the expense of other suspects. For far to long now all we have heard is Aaron Kosminski. Mr Begg and others have talked and written about him and published books on him.

It is now time for a full review of the case agsinst him with a view to crossing Aaaron Kosminski off the list forever. Becuase it is quite clear that Aaron Kosminski is not the Kosminski mentioned in the various questionable statements and reports etc, and to date no one has come up with any other evidence to show who he really was.

As far as my suspect Feigenbaum is concerned I have had the balls to publicly retract some of what I wrote previoulsy. My stance now is that as far as Feigenbaum is concerned I do not think he was responsible for all of the murders. However it is quite probable that he was concerned in one or some of them.

He couldnt have been Jack The Ripper nor could any of the others because as we know the name was created by the press and in doing so created a myth which is still with us today. Take the name away and what are you left with a series of similar unsloved murders. There was no Jack The Ripper

Now if i have the balls to be honest and go public and to be fair to Martin Fido he has done the same by stating he does not beleive Aaaron Kosmimski was the ripper then others on here should consider going public to and admit they are now wrong about Aaron Kosminski.

Phil Carter
09-02-2011, 06:12 PM
This coming from the man that is soon to release The Definitive Story backing Kosminsky all the way... the same man that denied all the way along that the original filmed version was Kosminsky slanted and a deliberate promotion of HIS favourite suspect, all timed perfectly, by sheer co-incidence to lead up to Rob House's book which is claimed to be "Scotland Yard's Prime Suspect? (No offence Rob)

Keep playing the grinder's organ.. the roundabout will keep on going. Kosminsky, Druitt et al. There's gold in them thar hills....

No Jeff. No debate. The time for that went a while ago.


kindly

Phil

Jeff Leahy
09-02-2011, 06:16 PM
Really Trevor?

Then why do you refuse to debate this argument on Jack the Ripper forums?

Even though I have sent numerous private emails requesting that you do so...?

I understand your concerns on 'Kosminski' being Aaron..it has been expressed at length..

However the only 'kosminski' in Asylum records is Aaron.

There are NO other.

And the only problem is Fido's misunderstanding of serial killer psychology

Schizophrenics were not dangerous then. they are not now, except under highly exceptional circumstance..

The Ripper murders were uniqe..and under 'exceptional circumstance'

But this is probably a waiste of time as critics seem unable to meet in polite conversation

Yours Jeff

Jeff Leahy
09-02-2011, 06:19 PM
This coming from the man that is soon to release The Definitive Story backing Kosminsky all the way... the same man that denied all the way along that the original filmed version was Kosminsky slanted and a deliberate promotion of HIS favourite suspect, all timed perfectly, by sheer co-incidence to lead up to Rob House's book which is claimed to be "Scotland Yard's Prime Suspect? (No offence Rob)

Keep playing the grinder's organ.. the roundabout will keep on going. Kosminsky, Druitt et al. There's gold in them thar hills....

No Jeff. No debate. The time for that went a while ago.


kindly

Phil


Then give me something Phil?

Give me facts and not more Bull Shit...you and Marriot are hiding behide Ally Ryder?

Thats the publicity I will be making unless you face me One To One...you are both cowards with no aguments...

The definitive Story is that...WHY DO YOU AND TREVOR REFUSE TO DEBATE ME? WHY ARE YOU BOTH SO SCARED????

Jeff Leahy
Producer/Director

Phil Carter
09-02-2011, 06:20 PM
Dear Jeff,

1) My name is Phil

2) Trevor Marriott is not a member on these boards



Posting under the influence is not recommended.


kindly

Phil

Phil Carter
09-02-2011, 06:24 PM
Dear Jeff...

Ally Ryder is not exactly on my Christmas card list... and I have absolutely no qualms in saying that I have no contact with the person either in public nor private.

I really do suggest you refrain from making such accusations.

Lastly, I do not tolerate any threat dressed up in any form.. in public nor in private, which you appear to have done in this last posting of yours. Please desist from this in future. Thank you


kindly

Phil

Jeff Leahy
09-02-2011, 06:32 PM
Dear Jeff...

Ally Ryder is not exactly on my Christmas card list... and I have absolutely no qualms in saying that I have no contact with the person either in public nor private.

I really do suggest you refrain from making such accusations.

Lastly, I do not tolerate any threat dressed up in any form.. in public nor in private, which you appear to have done in this last posting of yours. Please desist from this in future. Thank you


kindly

Phil

So asking you and Trevor to substanciate your claims is a threat?

As you well know my interest has always been in the facts and the Truth..

Yet there is a thread on Ally Ryderland making absolutely unsubstanciated claims about Aaron Kosminski..

People read this stuff, the BBC have just put out a ridiculous feature on Marriots theory..which you as a serious ripperologist, well you
must know was crap?

You are a part of this Phil you are being used

Unless of course you have something new?

And from very informed sources..well i know you and Marriot have diddly squat, apart from selling dodgy books and TV programs that mis inform the general public

Definitive Story dosnt do that its the TRUE STORY

Yours Jeff

Phil Carter
09-02-2011, 06:41 PM
Hello Jeff,

Enough sir.

1) I have absolutly NO part in any book or television programme you mention.

2) Associating me with a thread I have NOT even written on on Casebook allies me to things I have made no comment upon.

3) You have threatened to comment in public, as I read it, on both my and Trevor Marriott's "part" in all of this.. which is at best imaginary. I make no comment publically.

4) I do not SELL dodgy books or TV programmes either!
I request you retract this accusation. Again, my name is on NO book nor TV programme, of any quality.


5) This is your last warning Jeff, I will not tolerate a further outburst from you and I have no hestitation in reporting your last posting to Admin here. And I am not hiding behind anyone here either, just so you know.



Phil Carter

Jeff Leahy
09-02-2011, 06:45 PM
Dear Jeff...

Ally Ryder is not exactly on my Christmas card list...l


Then why are you and Trevor on her site? come discuss here where all is free, reasoned and out in the open?

There is after all lots to discuss :banplease:

Yours Jef

Phil Carter
09-02-2011, 06:51 PM
To Jeff Leahy,

You have previously been asked by Howard Brown not to attempt to goad anyone into debate if they do not wish. You are once again trying to do this.

Phil Carter

Jeff Leahy
09-02-2011, 06:58 PM
Hello Jeff,

1) I have absolutly NO part in any book or television programme you mention.

I didnt claim that you did...but these programs were broadcast...you are a serious ripperologist are you Not? yet you appear to be defending Marriots position..YES or NO?

2) Associating me with a thread I have NOT even written on on Casebook allies me to things I have made no comment upon.

You do this constantly. You post making very strong claims. You imply stuff. Then you stand saying not me I didnt do it? YOU POSTED ON ALLYS LAND!

WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU SAYING? DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING NEW? its a very simple question Phil.

3) You have threatened to comment in public, as I read it, on both my and Trevor Marriott's "part" in all of this.. which is at best imaginary. I make no comment publically..

Yes, I will comment in Public, I'm booked to speak at this years conference for a start...

4) I do not SELL dodgy books or TV programmes either!
I request you retract this accusation. Again, my name is on NO book nor TV programme, of any quality.

No but you are being used by those who do, I think the word is PATSY


5) This is your last warning Jeff, I will not tolerate a further outburst from you and I have no hestitaion in reporting your last posting to Admin here. And I am not hiding behind anyone here either, just so you know.

Phil Carter

Then report me Phil....I will however be making a full report at this years conference :banplease:

Yours Jeff

Jeff Leahy
09-02-2011, 07:02 PM
To Jeff Leahy,

You have previously been asked by Howard Brown not to attempt to goad anyone into debate if they do not wish. You are once again trying to do this.

Phil Carter

No, I'm asking you directly have you any new information that suggests Aaron Kosminski was NOT jack the Ripper?

You have been hinting at this for months.

Either supply the info or you go take a walk...

and we both know you'll be taking a very long walk because you and Marriot have discovered diddly squat...something I could have told you both months ago saving thousands of posts on a forgotten forum :deadhorse:

Yours Jeff

Jeff Leahy
09-02-2011, 07:16 PM
Just to update you all on what Martin Fido has to say...a man who I really am not worthy of critisising and who is one of my great hero's...

"Oh dear, oh dear!

Mr Marriott insinuates trhat I won't give a straight "yes or no, do I NOW agree Kosminski could not have been the Ripper?"

This is a silly - and I fear impertinent question, given that from the moment I found him I was sure Kosminski could not be the Ripper and immediately published that belief, from which I have never budged.

Paul Begg, too, thinks it at the very least extremely unlikely that Kosminski could have been the Ripper, but given the quality of the evidence surrounding all known suspects, believes that until Kosminski has been exhaustively researched and conclusively proved innocent, there is insufficient point in pursuing other known lines of enquiry to persuade him to follow them. (Philip Sugden's stance vis-a-vis Chapman is similar, since Philip, unlike Paul and me, interprets the evidence as indicating that Abberline is a more reliable witness than Anderson and Swanson).

If Mr Marriott has genuine new evidence that conclusively dismisses Aaron Kosminski from the case, Paul and I will be pleased to acknowledge it. So shall I if he has evidence conclusively dismissing Cohen, whom Paul does not at this stage think worth more detailed investigation.

Neither I nor anybody else, as far as I know, has ever suggested that Kosminski was a generic term used by the police or anyone else to denote imperfectly identified Jewish suspects. On the other hand, I was advised by people from America and Italy that their families had been spontaneously given the name Cohen by immigration officials who could not pronounce or spell their central European names, and so they were unsurprised that the name David or Aaron Davis Cohen might have been attached to someone whose identity was unknown. It should be clear that once the Swanson marginalia showed a more plausible reason for the name of Cohen being confused with the name Kosminski (i.e. that the Met knew about Cohen, without being sure of his name; the City knew about Kosminski, and as Don Rumbelow pointed out to me in 1988 must have been sure about the name because they knew the brother, and when at a later date somebody compared notes, they thought they were talking about the same "poor immigrant Jew from Whitechapel who went into Colney Hatch" - a description which fits both.)

And once again, let me point out that my examination of the asylum records had persuaded me that Cohen was Anderson's unnamed suspect BEFORE I proved the existence of Kosminski: I did not go hunting for a better suspect; indeed, I should have been overjoyed if Kosmknski had really looked like the Ripper, and would have thought the case effectively closed.

Mr Marriott's suggestion that Aaron wasn't Swanson's Kosminski because parts of him don't fit Swanson's account seems to be proposing the false corollary that there is therefore another Kosminski waiting to be found. This is certainly not the case. I checked the death registers down to the 1960s, allowing for the Ripper to live to 100.

Frankly, I don't think Mr Marriott clearly understands the arguments he challenges.

Martin Fido"

You are a legend and Star :pray2:

Jeff Leahy
09-02-2011, 07:24 PM
"What i have doesnt just rule Kosminski out but others as well" Trevor Marriot

Come on chaps I make an appeal to the Ripperologist community

"Isnt this time we sent this crap back to where it belongs, and all those who support and maintain this kind of 20th century ripperology" ?

This is a new age, lets embrace it and move on :welcome:

Yours Jefx

Jeff Leahy
09-02-2011, 07:35 PM
I'm going to bed now...if you choose to ban me thats OK...

All I can assure the community is that I have always sort to provide accurate and factual info on Jack the Ripper, and Definitive Story is the first program ever made that does so..

If Phil Carter or Trevor Marriot have secret information to the contrary..

Then I publically challenge them to produce it....

I add that they will not do so as I beleive them to be liars acting out of personal interest..

I will be at this years Conference happy to debate them should they wish to do so...(they wont however as they dont have any substance to back them up)

Good night sweet loves :moony:

Howard Brown
09-02-2011, 09:48 PM
Jeff:

Phil has asked that he be kept out of any debate or discussion regarding this issue. Let's respect his request and stop now.
I'm closing the thread.