Male Violence

[admin tim]

Continuation of the discussion concerning the multifaceted issue of male violence may continue on this thread, but NO GUN DISCUSSION, PRO OR CON, is to take place here. It leads to hard feelings and ill manners, and we simply cannot tolerate either any longer. We will appreciate your cooperation and civility. Thank you for your support.

[Maria Birchwood]

Tim:

The only trouble with this, is that most violence is perpetrated with a gun !
from the streets of Philadelphia to the streets of El Salvador.

Did you know the gun culture, has grown to such a degree in El Salvador that tourists going to the area are held up by criminals on their way from the airport to the hotels, stripped of everything they own and then killed with machine guns in order not to leave any witnesses ?

The armed gangs have outnumbered the police and the army two fold, since there are 40,000 of these gun gangs and the situation is getting worse and out of control.

The U.S. Ambassador interviewed for a newspaper, expressed his worry at the level of insecurity being such, that he cannot recommend any kind of investment in the area.

Tim I´m open minded in hearing out people who advocate guns with real interest. Bob has been a gentleman and Tel and even Jana have expressed their opinions in a frank and open polite manner. In a free society, people can express their opinions without being victimized or called offensive names which I found appalling. The subject is very interesting and it makes us all think about this subjet that afflict our communities and that is good.

I have thought of Switzerland, in our discussions as in this country, children are taught in schools at an early age how to use a gun and yet, over there, they do not have any of the violence associated with guns in the U.S. or El Salvador, and Honduras --The last one being the worst, as they have some 50,000 gun gang criminals-- so it makes you wonder how come it works alright in some societies, as it obviously fails miserably in others. Is it the culture they live in ? Or what factors contribute to this success for having a peaceful Switzerland, possibly one of the most free of crime in Europe ? This is something to give it good food for thought and investigation.

-Maria

[TimeRover]

Going a bit more general here -- are humans 'hot wired' for violence? (I'm including both sexes at this point). Since Cain first slew his brother, we have always managed find a weapon, whether that be a machete, a sword, a knife, a gun or smart bombs. Some of us try to forge peace. The rest immediately reach for the closest sharp stone.

What makes some societies more violent than others? Is it overcrowding, poverty, a mix of cultres? Hong Kong has 7 million plus people packed in a shoebox, yet their murder rate is a fraction of equivalent size US cities. Does having a culture that is reasonably homogenous help? It might, at first blush, appear that Iraq is homogenous, but that's obviously not the cure. It seems that humans always find a way to separate "us" and "them". Star Trek had an great episode illustrating how one slight difference (being black on one side of your body rather than the other) could lead to planetary genicide.

So that's the query -- are we predisposed toward violence? And if so, how do we change that "kill 'em all and let G*d sort them out?" philosophy? Or do we just let nature take its course until the roaches own the planet?

TimeRover

[Robert Linford]

I think the only way to change humans is to change their DNA.

Robert

[tel]

Oooooh! Genetic engineering - nasty stuff

[admin tim]

http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/a_f/bly/violence.htm

http://www.apa.org/pi/wpo/maleviol.html

http://www.offourbacks.org/malepat.htm

http://chronicle.com/free/v48/i37/37b00701.htm

http://www.media-awareness.ca/english/resources/educational/lessons/secondary/gender_portrayal/advertising_male_violence.cfm

http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=1578

http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/188992.pdf


The content here is much more in line with the original intent of this thread.

[Robert Linford]

Hi Tel

Well, I didn't say I necessarily wanted GE - just that I thought it was the only way to change humans.

Robert

[Maria Birchwood]

Robert:

On the other hand.... I have seen Dovermans which are so sweet they couldn´t kill a fly. Even though they can be trained to be really vicious !
So maybe the clue has to be in the upbringing of a person, whether it has well meaning caring parents who give them love and affection or whether they have led brutal violent lives in their homes when they are growing up and it becomes a way of live towards society when these individuals grow up.

Or whether is something inherent in the person predisposed to be well meaning or cruel and vicious like a mental illness.

Oh ! by the way, have you seen Tony Blair sunning himself in the beach in Barbados having a good holiday whilst thousands of British troops risk their lives on the frontline ? All at tax payers expense of course. All of this, when soldiers are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan and as casualties continue to mount day by gruesome day ? and when Afghanistan and Iraq continue to burn. Despite the carnage ! Its good for some...

- Maria

[Robert Linford]

Hi Maria

I agree that environment counts for something, though dogs of course are the result of prolonged selective breeding by humans.

The last I heard, Tony had delayed his holiday. So he's on the beach? I must say, I can't see the point of lying on a beach. You might just as well have a strong sleeping pill and wake up two weeks later. It's a lot cheaper.:)

Robert

[TimeRover]

As part of my nurse's training, I spent three months split between two psychiatric facilities. One was the "locked ward" at a Veteran's Hospital and the other a facility holding prisoners on their way in or out of Federal prison.

I interviewed psychopaths and sociopaths. Fascinating bunch. For the purposes of this post I'll weed out the truly schizophrenic (the ones that believed aliens were sending messages through the TV just for them) but focus on those who thought the rules don't apply. I interviewed one fellow who'd been in prison for 5 years and due to be released until he'd walked off a work detail so he could have a few beers. He was promptly caught and got 5 more years for his few days of freedom. When I asked why he couldn't wait the 2 weeks he had left on his original sentence and have all the beer he wanted, he said, "I wanted it now." No sense of delayed gratification. No concern for the consequences of that action. Much like a small child. NOW was the only thing in his mind and it overweighed all other issues.

A step beyond this fellow are the predators, those that are, for whatever reason, truly evil. Often they come from perfectly normal households, good parents, no sign of physical/mental abuse, no triggering factors as a tour of duty during wartime, etc. Some are just 'wired' evil. Whether it's a chemical imbalance, something to do with how the fetus is formed in the womb, don't know. They believe the world is their playground and we're the prey. They made the hair stand on the back of my neck because they looked at you like a starving wolf does a lamb.

But not all of them were like that. Some smiled, were charming and witty. It was only after you checked their medical records did you know the magnitude of evil sitting across from you. They acted just like the rest of us, at least up to that moment they decided to take control.

From my observations (and I'm not an expert) I think that environment plays a significant part. I also believe there is something else at play, perhaps hidden inside the human mind that helps us decide if our fellow humans are worthy of life or just here for our own sick amusement.

TimeRover

[Maria Birchwood]

Jana:

Very interesting observations. Although I´m not sure what do you mean to say in your last two sentences.

Robert:

Well, it looks like like King Tony came back home due to public pressure about how outrageous it would look on the newspapers tomorrow if he was photograph in his shorts drinking margharitas by the pool, whilst Afhanistan and Iraq are burning in a civil war and our 22,000 compatriots are still stuck in the Lebanese slaughter without a ship or a plane to bring them back home.

So the hols are over for him. Although it would be best for everyone if he took permanent holidays in another country. Or better still, in the Tower of London, accused of treason.

-Maria

[Robert Linford]

Maria, you need not worry if Tony takes a holiday. John Prescott is here to hold the fort.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Maria Birchwood]

Robert;

HA,Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,... I have nearly choked on my dinner...Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,...

God help us all ! I think not... he still hasn´t taken his cowboy boots yet.
Rule Britannia...Britannia helps us all... at that stage the boat will be really sinking...

-Maria

[Robert Linford]

It reminds me of the words of an old comedy record ;

"Look here, cowboy, you drop dead.
You've got a ten gallon hat on a two pint head."

Robert

[TimeRover]

What I was aiming at with my last two lines was: some violent behavior can be tracked to environmental causes (abusive family, etc.) but I wonder if there is another hidden 'trigger' within us that sends certain individuals into unrepentant violence.

We're just starting to learn how the human body reacts to certain stimuli, how it adapts and the curious ways our bodies are pre-programmed to do certain things in a given situation. A benign example: You go on a low calorie diet and your body figures the food supply has run out so it slows your metabolism, canabalizes your muscles, etc. to survive until the food supply returns. That's wired into our genetic makeup so the species survives to reproduce.

What if the excessive violence (evil) found in certain individuals is a mutated version of our basic "stay alive" at any cost internal programming? And, just to throw in a bit of science fiction -- what if that mutation is caused at a genetic level?

I'm quite comfortable in accepting that some people are just the embodiment of evil, but part of me wants to know where that darkness come from. Is is purely psychological or are there other reasons why societies will cheerfully slaughter their neighbors in an orgy of destruction?

TimeRover

[Robert Linford]

Hi Jana

According to one theory I heard (and I cannot give you its origin, I'm afraid) some people commit murder when they feel, in some deep sense, that their very survival as a person is threatened - the theory is that they kill in order to preserve their sanity, or some such motive. I'm rather hazy about the details.

Robert

[Stephen Leece]

"The only response to an insane world is insanity itself..." sounds like that to me Robert.

Regards

Stephen

[Stan Russo]

Much better than educating a society to promote an evolution process.

"An eye for an eye" - seems outdated to me, but let's continue togive it a shot. Worked for the Babylonians, right?

[TimeRover]

some people commit murder when they feel, in some deep sense, that their very survival as a person is threatened - the theory is that they kill in order to preserve their sanity, or some such motive. Robert

Absolutely fascinating concept, Robert. And one this fiction writer can spin into a story sometime down the line. However, it's reality to those who life in that state.

TimeRover

[TimeRover]

Since we've been talking about violence and potential ways to curb it, I could not help but notice this article on the web. Please note if you're not interested in reading about self-pleasuring for charity, don't visit the link.

It appears the Brits might be onto something:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060804/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_masturbate;_ylt=AqZjYbkA1ganGfspvuodMOGhO rgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4cmUwbnA1BHNlYwMxNzAy

It's darned hard to think about killing someone when you're, ahem, mellow.... :rolleyes:

TimeRover

[Howard Brown]

Not to distort Robert's statement....but the comment:

"some people commit murder when they feel, in some deep sense, that their very survival as a person is threatened - the theory is that they kill in order to preserve their sanity, or some such motive."

...has some common ground with the theory posited by David Radka.

In that theory,a psychopath killed perfect strangers in order to extricate Kosminski ( and at the same time,frame him ),from a familial home. However,in this scenario,much to Dave's chagrin....there wasn't any evidence to assume this.

But Robert's premise IS evident....in the machinations of ultra-left AND right politicians ( whats the difference,anyway???) as well as individuals over the ages.

I dub thee...The "R;) L" Theory.

[Maria Birchwood]

Jana:

Very very interesting piece of work you have written there. I tend to agree with you that it is inhereted, we do have characteristics which come from our genetic make-up from illnesses to behaviour, to physical likeness from our ancestors.

But apart from illnesses, you can also inheret talents and abilities that are passed on from your ancestors to you. These abilities are within your biological make-up, in that instance, its really fascinating to see what your qualities and potentials you have within you. It could even save time in school, trying to discover what you are good at, and predisposed in your brain to accomplish and excell at an early age.

[admin tim]

http://www.click2houston.com/news/9645773/detail.html

I guess she didn't have a gun.

Which goes to show that when blood is on the boil, there are alternate ways of inflicting violence. In this case, oil was on the boil too.

Anyone ever see the film "The Burning Bed"?

[TimeRover]

Saw that article. Held particular horror for me as I used to work as a nurse in a burn unit. Bullets are nasty. Burns are living h*ll. I wonder what her defense is going to be?

TimeRover

[Howard Brown]

Jana and Tim:

Saw an episode of 48 Hours ( an American series on modern crimes ) two days ago.

Woman complained about an abusive husband. Stabbed him 193 times while he was tied up in some kinky sexual position on the bed.. Found guilty,got 25 years ( 8 years per stabwound ) in the Lone Star State....Harris County. :thumbsupbud:

They had guns in the house.

[Magpie]

Since we've been talking about violence and potential ways to curb it, I could not help but notice this article on the web. Please note if you're not interested in reading about self-pleasuring for charity, don't visit the link.

It appears the Brits might be onto something:


It's darned hard to think about killing someone when you're, ahem, mellow.... :rolleyes:

TimeRover

I talked about this on my show last week:thumbsupbud:

I was speculating about what kind of television coverage we could expect.

One advantage--it would be difficult to pick up a gun with your hand, uh, full, as it were....

[tel]

erm...... hate to break this to yer How, but 8 years per stab would come out at 1544 years ;)

[Howard Brown]

Umm...I was...uh...just testing ya,Tel !:rolleyes:

You're right....... It is 8 stab wounds per year.

I learned math in Texas.:)

[Howard Brown]

I talked about this on my show last week-Magpie.

Ahem....could you use someone on your television show? I am a shameless whore when it comes to making it on television....

Thanks

Whore:thumbsupbud:

[tel]

Yee Haw

[Magpie]

I talked about this on my show last week-Magpie.

Ahem....could you use someone on your television show? I am a shameless whore when it comes to making it on television....

Thanks

Whore:thumbsupbud:

Sorry, How, I'm strictly radio;)

[Howard Brown]

Drat..:cry:

[TimeRover]

Magpie
Call me clueless, but what show???? I know, I should get out from under my rock more often.

TimeRover

[Howard Brown]

Since this particular crime is almost exclusively perpetuated by males on children....I thought I would put the URL for the update on the Jon Benet Ramsey murder suspect here...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/16/ramsey.arrest/index.html

One question...does Colorado have the death penalty ( that is,if this guy is the guy...) ?

Anyone have any ideas on what to do about pedophilia,which is a form of male violence on children ?

What can we do,as parents,other than bite our nails when our kids get out of our sight for two minutes?

When I was 11-12 years old...I could travel up to 15 miles away from home....down railroad tracks...different neighborhoods...all sorts of places.

I don't let my daughter out of my sight out front unless another adult is there or if she is in the company of the solid parents that I do know and trust?

What the hell made such a radical change so fast ?

[Maria Birchwood]

Howie:

Yes I do. Castration. This way they lose their libido and become harmless eunochs.

And yes, I did see the story on FOX News last night, as I was really apalled when the police were at first trying to pin the blame on the parents, I thought they were not getting enough support over the loss of their daughter and valuable time was being lost in finding the culprit who did this.

Yes, Castration and done with it. Any good ?

-Maria

[Robert Linford]

Maria, in order to get compulsory castration, you will have to take on and defeat the entire Liberal Establishment - the courts, the politicians, the Guardian-type newspapers, the BBC, the Oxbridge elite, the public school elite, the churches....

Well, I wish you luck!

Robert

[tel]

I don't think the problem is that simple - castration may work for some but I think the problems run deeper than that.

As far as JBR goes ....... false confessions pop up all the time, and don't be too suprised if thgis turns out to be another one of 'em. All the indicators point to Patsy having serious involvement in the matter.

[Robert Linford]

Hi Tel

Of course, I'm not commenting on this particular case, which I haven't read up on.

There's an awful lot of soft thinking on crime. Some prisoners find God in jail.

Wonder what God was in for.

Robert

[Howard Brown]

Robert:

Maybe the citizen-paid free cable,food,weight room,and law libraries of our modern prisons.

Castration,according to some pedophiles,doesn't completely rid them of the urge.

I know a couple o' pellets of cyanide gas would.:)

[Maria Birchwood]

Robert, Tel and How :

Something has to be done. Having them in protected custody is very expensive for the tax payer.

The trouble with the death penalty is that if they arrest the wrong man.. then that is a mistake it cannot be made right. Two wrongs doesn´t make it right.

Miscarriages of justice have happened in the past, so if in doubt...maybe keep them in high security, not released into the community creating fear and uncertainty for the rest of society.

Tel: Well... it was very strange the fact that parents do that sort of thing to their children, I mean...dress them as Barbie dolls at such a young age, on the other hand, apparently this so called pageant shows are common in the U.S. It is a sort of abnormal upbringing for a child.

I used to play with dolls until I was 13 years old. But nowadays girls are thinking about boys. In England, there have been girls who are mothers at the tender age of 10 !! We have the highest rate of child pregnancy in all of Europe. Its shameful. This generation of parents have failed their young.

I would have thought at 10 you need education yourself and far too young to educate and bring up another child with all the responsabilities and duties that come with being a parent.

-Maria

[Robert Linford]

Hi Maria

Yes, it could either be a life sentence (where "life" means life) or capital punishment. In a democracy, the people will decide.

Punishments will deter, if they're tough enough. It's worth noting that crooks never give each other any do-gooding bullsh*t. Can you imagine someone from Al Capone's gang double-crossing him and then saying, 'It's no good you filling me full of lead, Al. It'll only make me do it all the more.':)

Robert

[tel]

Hi Tel

Of course, I'm not commenting on this particular case, which I haven't read up on.

There's an awful lot of soft thinking on crime. Some prisoners find God in jail.

Wonder what God was in for.

Robert

I dunno what he's in for mate, but he must be on Death Row, 'cos thats where a lot of 'em come across him

[Debbie D]

Robert, Tel and How :


The trouble with the death penalty is that if they arrest the wrong man.. then that is a mistake it cannot be made right. Two wrongs doesn´t make it right.

-Maria

The same could be said for having the wrong man and using castration as the punishment! That's definitely two wrongs that would never be right again.:eek:

[Maria Birchwood]

Debbie:

I´m talking about serial abusers, someone who has been proven beyond doubt that he has this problem. I don´t think the death penalty is appropriate if castration will take away his urges with anyone, let that be children. I think it is more of a punishment for someone to be left alive to face the magnitude of what he has done.

Paedophiles, are not necessarily murderers. What causes it, as Tel says its more profound, I don´t really know nor understand, since children are the future and anyone sane knows they should be protected not abused.

-Maria

[tel]

Well said Maria - the only problem I have with castration of these proven repeat offenders (apart from the fact that it might not 'do the trick') is the fact that in most of the few legal castrations that do occur they use 'chemical castration' - I'd use me bluntest, rustiest knife.

[Howard Brown]

Just today,some creep in the county that I work in was spotted trying to coerce two 10 year old kids into his car with offers of "goodies".

Fortunately,these kids are regular kids from Philly/suburbs...they were aware of the scheme and took down his plate number.

He'll be nailed and in the WORST county for pedophiles possible.:)

[tel]

Could end up bein' nailed in more senses then one eh?

[Howard Brown]

Hopefully, Tel...

Hopefully.;)

[Maria Birchwood]

Robert:

The death penalty exists in the U.S. and yet it is NOT a deterrant at all, apart from the new Democracy Iraq, the U.S. has the highest incidence of gun deaths in the world, despite the death penalty !

-Maria

[Robert Linford]

Hi Maria

There's a lot of nonsense with 11th hour reprieves etc. They could cut that out.

Then they need more police on the beat of course. The less chance they have of remaining undetected, the fewer crimes the crooks will commit.

Then they could stiffen the sentences for the earlier crimes that murderers often commit.

At the end of the day, if a man is determined to commit a murder, even though he knows he has a very good chance of being detected, and even if he knows that the death penalty awaits, then it's plain that he's too stupid to be allowed amongst the living.

Robert

[Howard Brown]

Maria:

I know its been said many times before...but once more:

The Death Penalty was not designed to deter crime. Never was....never will be.

It just removes someone from society for good. Thats all. No free medical care.....while non criminals have to break their asses to pay for medical insurance and medicine....and all those other goodies criminals get and don't have to work for it.

[Maria Birchwood]

Howie:

It was Robert who said the death penalty was a deterrent, I was just merely stating that it isn´t a deterrent.

We do get free medical care in the UK dear... not just the criminals.

There have been certain cases in the UK where the death penalty would have been quite proper for the reasons of keeping them alive as a waste of the public purse dear.

The ones that come to mind are Hindley and her lover, this was a case of murdering children in the most despicable way no sane human being would think it possible. I would have liked them to receive the death penalty. Another case, was the Cromwell Road killings, where a perverted couple not only murdered strangers for pleasure but one of their own children too. All the victims were buried in their garden. A truly awful awful evil couple who have no redemption not even in hell.

The others were those two boys who killed a little boy in the most ghastly and too hard and painful way to describe. This people are not animals because that would be an insult to animals.

-Maria

[tel]

As I see it, a big problem with the death penalty in the US is the amount of foolin' around they do beforehand. Takes on average about 12 years to go through the process. Now in the good ol' days you were tried, found guilty & executed within the month.

[tel]

Maria:

I know its been said many times before...but once more:

The Death Penalty was not designed to deter crime. Never was....never will be.

It just removes someone from society for good. Thats all. No free medical care.....while non criminals have to break their asses to pay for medical insurance and medicine....and all those other goodies criminals get and don't have to work for it.

It would be fine if it worked that way How, but it don't (see above).

That time lag before they get 'sent off' is about the equivalent of the average sentence for murder over here, so where's the saving?

Example - Graham Gene Potter - who murdered Kim Narelle Barry, cut off her head and fingers and dumped her in the bush - served almost exactly 12 years. :(

[Robert Linford]

Hi Tel

I see you've got "compassionate" idiots over there as well.

Robert

[tel]

Yes Robert, we have 'em in bountiful supply. Not only that, but we don't have a single politician with the cojones to stand up & say 'Let's top a few of 'em ' despite the fact that there would be strong public support fot it. Some things go beyond votes I guess.:confused:

[Howard Brown]

Maria:

" There have been certain cases in the UK where the death penalty would have been
quite proper for the reasons of keeping them alive as a waste of the public
purse dear..."

There are quite a few more that merit the same fate. We all lapse into subjectivity and "select" which crime or crimes are more worthy of the gas pellet or firing squad.

Tel:

I can't agree with you more buddy.....I sense a spirit in many Australians ( in Ripperology and elsewhere ) that is very similar to the attitudes and values of the "old days" in the States. Very,very similar.:thumbsupbud: A no-nonsense, non over intellectualizing over the most obvious of solutions to problems. The irony of all this is that Australia is still "considered" a nation created by ex-cons to many people !! Keep it up. You guys may be the last bastion of sanity on Earth.

Robert:

If they have our individual brands of cigarettes over there...lets move to Oz. Whattya say?:)

[Debbie D]

There are quite a few more that merit the same fate. We all lapse into subjectivity and "select" which crime or crimes are more worthy of the gas pellet or firing squad.


So very true How.

[Magpie]

"Bad cases make poor law" after all.

In Canada, Karla Homolka is currently residing on the wrong side of the horizon due to a "deal with the devil" to convict her ex-hubby. Not only is she still wasting oxygen, but she's free :mob:

Even the most vocal opponent of capital punishment would likely make an exception for this genetic mistake, but it would be a mistake to base our entire debate on capital punishment on such extreme and emotive cases.

[Maria Birchwood]

Debbie and How:

Not all the cases should be treated with the same scissors ! with a Death Penalty for all.

I do not agree for example... that soldiers who were shell shocked and couldn´t continue fighting WERE awarded with the Death Penalty for cowardice.

Kill for the sake of killing someone with the Death Penalty is not an option. Each case should be given the sentence it requires. And yes, we should be selective.

Otherwise, we will fall back into lynching !! Hang them high first, ask the questions later.

-Maria

[Spiro]

Rockville, MD – Leading family violence researchers around the world are disputing the conclusions of the recent United Nations report, Secretary-General's Study on Violence Against Women. The UN study probes the issue of violence directed against women and recommends strategies to combat abuse.

But leading scientists say the report's approach to partner abuse is fundamentally flawed, and its recommended solutions will not solve the problem of partner aggression.

Dr. Murray Straus, co-director of the Family Research Laboratory at the University of New Hampshire, notes, "The UN report's discussion on domestic violence is biased because it deliberately ignores half the problem – female perpetrators. Ending violence against women by male partners is not going to be achieved until women also desist."

Felicity Goodyear-Smith, a physician-researcher at the University of Auckland in New Zealand, believes men and women alike are ill-served by the report: "Studies consistently show that throughout the Western world, men and women initiate physical violence at about equal rates, and frequently partner violence is reciprocal. Portraying inter-partner violence as though it only involves male perpetrators and female victims does both men and women a disservice."

Donald Dutton, professor of psychology at the University of British Columbia believes many studies of intimate partner abuse do not meet even minimum standards of scientific validity: "Much domestic violence research conducted in North America has been so biased that it might be called 'junk science.' It has used selective data and interpreted results in a way that depicts all males as real or potential perpetrators, while downplaying female violence."

Nicola Graham-Kevan, PhD, senior lecturer at the University of Central Lancashire in England, believes that following the report's recommendations will only allow the problem of spousal abuse to persist: "Research on intimate partner violence consistently finds that men and women use similar types of aggression. By ignoring the mutual nature of much partner violence, the UN ensures that both women and men will continue to be victimised in this way."

Nearly 200 studies around the world show that men and women are equally likely to engage in partner aggression: www.csulb.edu/ ~mfiebert/ assault.htm
. Psychologist John Archer has reported that 38% of persons injured by
domestic violence are male.

RADAR – Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting – is a non-profit,
non-partisan organization working to assure that the problem of domestic
violence is treated in a balanced and effective manner: www.mediaradar.org