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Natalie Severn
06-28-2007, 05:20 AM
The following extract from The Sun of Feb 1894 is reply to RJ Palmer who recently asked where there might be contemporary evidence of a claim by both the prosecution and defence team in the Cutbush trial that he was suspected of being Jack the Ripper:
The extract is taken from the introduction to the series of full page articles that appeared in The Sun in February 1894.
The Sun,13 February 1894 introductory article.......third paragraph,third sentence:
" In the brief of the counsel who prosecuted,in the instructions of the solicitor who defended,there was the same statement-that he was suspected of being Jack the Ripper.In the case of both the one and the other,the very mention of this or any other dark suspicion was precluded;for, being unable to plead,the wretched creature in the dock was saved from all indictment;was spared the necessity of all defence.He was sent forthwith to the living tomb of a lunatic asylum,and there he might have passed to death without mention of his terrible secret if a chance clue had not put a representative of The Sun on the track."
Hope this clarifies the matter RJ, ...and others who may have wondered the why and the where of it!................
Best
Natalie
R.J.Palmer
06-28-2007, 06:18 PM
Excellent. Thanks for that, Natalie. The ‘brief’ rings a very loud bell, and I do recall this now. I was momentarily puzzled by the reference in ‘Myth.’
The Times reports list the prosecution as ‘Angus Lewis’ and the only such bloke I am seeing in the 1891 census is an Irishman named Angus S. Lewis, rather young, born 1861 and living with his wife Constance at No. 1 Knights Park Villas, Kingston. He is listed as a “solicitor’s clerk and barrister.” So here is our prosecutor. Is the inclusion of ‘solicitor’s clerk’ suggestive of anything? A junior member of a firm, perhaps, underneath a more experience barrister or barristers(?)
Not to sound nitpicking, but it may be important to note that it doesn’t actually state that the prosecution believed Cutbush was Jack the Ripper, as APW notes, but, rather, that in his brief Lewis refered to the fact that he had been suspected of being Jack the Ripper. This distinction is potentially significant, I feel, because the claim evidently is that there was police suspicion against him for the 1888 crimes--possibly a reference to Inspector Race’s ongoing investigation (?)
I’m at somewhat of a loss. I can readily understand what would motivate Mr. Angus S. Lewis for stating this, if only as an inadmissible statement in a brief; as prosecutor, he would certainly wish to paint Cutbush in as dangerous a light as possible. An inexperieced or enthusiastic prosecutor throwing the spectre of 1888 over the proceedings would be just the ticket. I am puzzled, however, why the defense would be playing this card. That seems odd, doesn’t it? Cheers.
Robert Linford
06-28-2007, 06:50 PM
RJ, one scenario that was explored was that Kate might have framed Thomas, in order to get her hands on his house.
Robert
Natalie Severn
06-28-2007, 06:51 PM
RJ,
It is an odd business ,the entire Cutbush saga-----not least Macnaghten"s 1894 seven page missive protesting that he wasnt The Whitechapel murderer!!!
I wonder if the police were pulling a few strings around the time of his trial? You know, Thomas Cutbush - behaving very strangely/attacking women with knives in 1891/talk of him being the Ripper.. Inspector Reid looking into it..maybe we better have him sectioned before he does any more damage.
...it could be that something like this happened because of the potential embarrassment to the Yard ......
Best
Natalie
A.P. Wolf
06-28-2007, 06:52 PM
Yes RJP, my Dear Palmer, it is much like us lot pondering Thaw's guilt in whipping and salting a young cod in 1904 when we know for a fact that he put three bullets into a man and murdered him in cold blood in 1906... isn't it?
The thrust of the Sun article is that young Thomas avoided any and all criminal charges by the declaration that he was unfit to plea due to insanity.
This is what upset the Sun, that neither prosecution or defence was allowed to proceed with their evidence.
A.P. Wolf
06-28-2007, 07:46 PM
I liked that scenario, Robert, but wasn't it 'houses'?
R.J.Palmer
06-28-2007, 08:01 PM
Dear Sir,
I don’t follow your first point--but I am glad to see those three bullets are no longer lodged in Sanford White’s head.
Now, bear with me, because I think the following is a fair point. In the general run of things, aren’t the prosecution and the defense on different sides of the courtroom?
But not so with the Sun’s strange claim. It states that the prosecution and the defense were in agreement that he was the Ripper, but the judge prevented this ‘evidence’ from being voiced in court. This does need a little explaining, it seems to me, beyond merely stating that 'it is so.'
For why on earth would the defense want it to be voiced in court? I’m still trying to get my mind around that one.
In regards to Unhairy Cutbush v. Harry Thaw, the two cases are quite dissimilar, though it is intersting that they do share certain themes in that they were unusual legal wranglings that led towards the madhouse.
Yet, Thaw’s mumsie did her level best to hide the fact that she had raised a very nasty little boy indeed.
By contrast, Kate Cutbush seems to have willingly admitted that she had raised a hell-raiser. In a case filled with denials, she seems to have made a point of suspecting her own son. Which could add support to Robert’s interesting theory.
But the main point that I am struggling with and not ‘getting’ is why the defense would have painted one of their own as the Ripper, unless the Irishman Lewis was merely doing the bidding of his client (Kate) or pushing for the very outcome (insanity) that the Sun claims had scandalized the courtroom.
I remain &tc, yours truly,
A.P. Wolf
06-29-2007, 02:11 PM
My Dear Palmer
Thank you for your kind note, and I know that now we have been exchanging letters in this regard for a while, that you will not object to my less formal address.
Robert has hinted at the fact that it appeared to be in the best interests of Thomas' immediate family to have him considered as unfit to plead in the case, as that later enabled his mother to disinherit Thomas from his inheritance, which then became hers.
I can't now remember how quickly this happened after the court case - I'm pretty sure Robert will! - but it did appear to me to be inappropriate on the mother's part to disinherit Thomas of his dues when he was still very much alive, and might still have been released from custody at a later date. It was rare, but it did happen, at Her or His Majesty's Pleasure of course, particularly when a new monarch was crowned, as was the case while Thomas was still in detention at Broadmoor.
Whatever, the thrust of my point is that it does appear to have been Thomas' family's intention to have him committed as a lunatic prior to his appearance in court, and if they were responsible for the hiring of the defence brief, which they probably were, then this was bound to influence the strategy - or lack of it - adopted by the defence in the trial.
The prosecution might have mooted the idea that Thomas was a suspect in the Whitechapel Murders, which he was you'll kindly remember, my dear chap; and the defence brief said 'by god, you are right' and scribbled in his notebook 'Jack the Ripper?'
As you'll no doubt remember, my dear Palmer, in the case of Colicitt, the support of his immediate family in court on the day of his trial was absolutely instrumental in securing his release; and it is here that we see the real difference in the two similar cases, that there was absolutely no support for Thomas from his immediate family in court that day.
Where was grand old uncle Charles?
If Chief Executive Superintendent Charles Henry Cutbush of Scotland Yard had walked into that court on that day in full dress uniform and expressed some kind of sympathy for his 'nephew' and the promise of future good conduct, plus a sizeable surety, then Thomas could have walked out of court a free man.
Instead he was confined for the rest of his life; and I believe his mother was complicit in this.
My point with Thaw, my dear Palmer, was that he escaped true punishment by confusing his act of murder with those of a lesser degree; and that Thomas was being tried for offences of a lesser degree with a great deal of confusion evident regarding a murder case which many felt he was involved in.
Smoke and mirrors. You'll remember them from the Tumblety story.
yours always
ap
Robert Linford
06-29-2007, 02:52 PM
My dear folks
If I remember correctly, Kate tried to sell Thomas's house, and was told that she must first arrange some sort of legal guardianship to give her the authority to do so. It's still a mystery just how Thomas came to own this house. Thomas's father died in 1886, intestate, after having contracted two bigamous marriages and four (strictly speaking) illegitimate children. There was a case Cutbush v Cutbush in the early 1890s. The bulk of the case records seem to have disappeared. All I have is the Solicitors' Journal entry about selling the house, and a pedigree which was used in the case. It's clear from the pedigree that the case wasn't primarily about Thomas, although he and his father were listed in the family tree chart. When he died in 1903, Thomas had about £80 - not a bad sum in today's terms. The house in Albert St was sold some time in the 90s and another one purchased in nearby Durand Gardens.
Kind regards, aye aye that's yer lot etc
Robert
Robert Linford
06-29-2007, 06:24 PM
I've pasted this from Casebook :
But here is the 1893 case, as reported in the Solicitors’ Journal Vol.37 P. 685 : CUTBUSH v CUTBUSH – Chitty, J., 2nd August. SOLICITOR – INSTRUCTIONS FROM THIRD PERSON – NO COMMUNICATION WITH ACTUAL CLIENT – RISK. Partition action. On the above action coming on on further consideration it appeared that T.H.C., one of the persons who had been served with notice of the judgment, and for whom the plaintiff’s solicitors had entered an appearance, was of unsound mind. The plaintiff’s solicitors, who were then acting for all parties, had received no instructions from T.H.C. direct, but acted for him on the instructions of his mother, who did not disclose the fact of his unsoundness of mind. A contract for sale of real estate was confirmed in the action, the puchase-money paid into court, and the chief clerk’s certificate made without any guardian ad litem being appointed, and it was only when it became necessary for T.H.C. to execute the conveyance that it was discovered that he was a lunatic confined at B -. The purchaser appeared on the further consideration. All parties were anxious to save expense, and desired to adapt the former proceedings in the action so far as they would be made to bind the lunatic. Chity, J., said the case illustrated the great danger of solicitors allowing themselves to take instructions from third persons. In this case the parties were very lenient, and took no technical objections to the validity of the former proceedings, or he might have had to order the solicitors to pay the costs of any proceedings rendered abortive by their neglect to obtain proper instructions. The following order was made :- "Appoint A.B. guardian ad litem, and the person of unsound mind appearing and submitting to be bound declare him a trustee within the Trustee Act, 1850, and appoint a person to be named in the order to convey in his place. Purchaser to have the costs of this application out of the fund in court." – COUNSEL, J.A. Hay; F. Hoare Colt; Seeley. SOLICITORS, Paterson & Sons; George Turner. (Reported by G. Rowland Alston, Barrister-at-Law.)
Robert Linford
06-29-2007, 06:26 PM
I see on looking at this again that I made an unnecessary assumption that this was to do with 14 Albert St. The item doesn't say what was being sold.
Robert
A.P. Wolf
06-29-2007, 06:31 PM
Thanks Robert
there appears to be a lot of pasting going on over there at the moment.
Natalie Severn
06-29-2007, 06:46 PM
I know AP.....you have to have a bit of a laugh sometimes but heck it seems to have taken on a very peculiar turn one way and another today!
Thanks a lot for this Robert.Very interesting indeed.
Robert Linford
06-29-2007, 06:52 PM
I should say that the Plaintiff mentioned above was Eliza Cutbush, daughter of Edward, who was brother to Luke Flood Cutbush. He died in 1890.
Edward was also the brother of Thomas's grandad. So I guess that would make him Thomas's great uncle?
Thomas, of course, believed that he was his own grandpa.
Robert
A.P. Wolf
06-29-2007, 07:10 PM
Yes Robert, I seem to remember us going back and forth with this property question a long time ago... for not long before the incidents of which we speak the Flood and Cutbush clans owned half of bleeting Whitechapel; and then suddenly the whole fortune boils down down to a semi detached hut somewhere in Kennington?
Unless the entire family fortune was spent on that bell and clock in the London Hospital, and that plaque in the church, where the devil did it all go?
Flood's gold watch which he lost at the Mayor's Banquet?
On roses?
Uncle Charles' collection of Tranters?
Robert Linford
06-29-2007, 07:22 PM
AP, it's complicated, that's for sure.
Robert
Caroline Morris
07-02-2007, 06:09 AM
Hi RJ, All,
Prosecution: Look, this wretch is also suspected of having committed the ripper murders - guilty as hell!
Defence: This poor wretch is also suspected of being Jack the Ripper, no less. He is undoubtedly mad as a hatter - not responsible!
Could it not be the age-old bad v mad argument?
Love,
Caz
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R.J.Palmer
07-02-2007, 07:18 AM
Could it not be the age-old bad v mad argument?
Caz -- Hello. Having a bit of a late night here (hic). May I ask, are you referring to the defendant, or to his legal representation? If my attorney attempted to help my case by accusing me of being Jack the Ripper, then yes, the question of ‘mad or bad’ would definitely cross my mind!
An unusual legal strategy to say the least... Cheers, RP
Natalie Severn
07-02-2007, 07:47 AM
Hi Caz,
Succinctly put and probably the truth of the matter too!
However I can"t help being a bit wary about the treatment dished out to Cutbush!
First off.....why were his "oversolicitous" mother and aunt apparently complicit in the defences dangerous claim-and had they realised that Cutbush would consequently be given what was virtually a death sentence and locked away for life in Broadmoor?
Second, Cutbush can be "heard" articulating his fears/paranoia whatever, in letters to doctors about their alleged unprofessionalism and worse.
We get a glimpse of him in early March 1891,just prior to him being caught and placed in the lunatic asylum from which his ingenious escape took place.This was from a young couple who saw him lurking in an empty,derelict house in Camden Town and spoke with him . During a twenty minute converstaion he claimed the police were after him and there was a £500 reward on offer for his capture.He said ,"you must know that they say I am Jack the Ripper---though I am not though there insides are open and their bowels are all out..........I have only been cutting up girls and laying them out".
I am always mindful of the words of Frances Coles"s "unfortunate" friend,Ellen Callagher,who warned her on the night of her murder on February 12th 1891 to give a wide berth to a man nearby who she knew to be violent.
The sighting of Cutbush by the Young Camden couple,when the world and his wife were all apparently after him, was less than a fortnight later.*
In the Sun"s report therefore,though he comes across as a weirdo ,convinced people are out to get him-what with the doctors letters and then trying desperately to convince two complete strangers that he was not Jack the Ripper etc it seems pretty clear that he was under a lot of stress and strain ,but that he wasnt a" raving mad" but rather ,a bit of an odd ball, as well as high strung, articulate,literate,quick thinking and fairly intelligent.
What appears to be in his mind is that if this couple can only help shelter him he has rich relatives and private means and can repay them well.
That Cutbush was seriously mentally ill I dont doubt,but he doesnt,at this point [March 1891] appear to have completely lost the plot.
Possibly by the time his trial took place he had been propelled into a complete schizophrenic breakdown and was yelling and being violent,who knows.
Best
Nats
*I have always believed in Sadler"s innocence despite things looking to the contrary.He was falling down drunk for a start that night and had only an extremely blunt knife and was discharged to "welcoming crowds" who believed the police had fitted him up.
Caroline Morris
07-02-2007, 08:42 AM
An unusual legal strategy to say the least... Cheers, RP
Indeed. I don't know if it was the strategy - it was merely a suggestion if both the prosecution and defence teams did in fact allude to the same suspicion regarding the defendant/client in the making of their respective cases. If they did, they must have had their reasons, and that in itself was unusual, as you yourself observed.
Love,
Caz
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Robert Linford
07-02-2007, 09:19 AM
Of course, Feigenbaum's lawyer accused him of being JTR - but that, I think, was after F had been executed.
A.P. Wolf
07-02-2007, 03:00 PM
Nicely said, Natalie.
This statement from Thomas is provoking:
,"you must know that they say I am Jack the Ripper---though I am not though there insides are open and their bowels are all out..........I have only been cutting up girls and laying them out".
Do you think by 'cutting up girls and laying them out' he might have been referring to his habit of cutting out female images from catalogues and then arranging them in a semi-pornographic art form in his scrapbooks?
These 'artistic' arrangements had been found by the police by then, and perhaps Thomas was attempting to defend his 'art'?
My take on the defence and prosecution stance on Thomas is that a certain senior police officer had made it quite plain to the court - in camera so to speak - that he wasn't leaving that court unless Thomas was committed under Her Majesty's Pleasure to be detained in Broadmoor for the rest of his life; and that would have been the same senior police officer who was supplying all the intricate and intimate detail to the Sun.
And hence the Macnaghten Memo.
Robert Linford
07-02-2007, 03:13 PM
Hi AP
Assuming that they heard and reported THC accurately, then might this not indicate a slight speech defect? Shouldn't it really be "laying out girls and cutting them up"? (whether of the paper or bodily kind)
My mind goes back to the "syndicate" which was taken as a mistake for "synagogue".
Robert
Natalie Severn
07-02-2007, 05:08 PM
Hi AP,
Unfortunately the bit from the newspaper of 1894 that describes what the drawings were was illegible.All that was readable was the following:
" Among some papers which had been torn up and found in an overcoat in the room were
illegible 12 lines............................................. .............................
Now we ask distinctly whether these were not the exact kind of drawings that would be found in the rooms of Jack the Ripper?"
But to return to what we can read from the Sun"s articles that relates to the statement you have written from his words to the young couple in Camden,yes, I think AP ,that Cutbush was cutting out pictures of women and laying them out as the Whitechapel murder victims were found; He also sometimes apparently half dressed the card dolls with [pink] stockings and I reckon Cutbush may well have cut out bits of organs from tracings taken from his medical books and laid them around the abdomens /shoulders etc of his card dolls on which he probably drew mutilations." you must know,said he "that they say I am Jack the Ripper but I am not,THOUGH THEIR INSIDES ARE OPEN AND THEIR BOWELS ARE ALL OUT......" well here AP I think we have a description by Cutbush himself of exactly what he drew and cut out when practising and preparing for his "open air surgery" !
We are told he had a "... strong love for anatomical study...spending a portion of each day in making rough drawings of the bodies of women,and their mutilations,after the fashion in which the bodies of the women murdered in Whitechapel were found to be mutilated.His own reason for these performences was that he was studying for the "medical profession"-
Interesting stuff, Cutbush and his etchings!
Natalie
A.P. Wolf
07-02-2007, 06:04 PM
Yes, Natalie, again nicely put.
Ah, the missing 12 lines from the description of young Thomas' art work seem to be lost forever... but they ain't.
A long time ago on the Casebook forum, Grey Hunter and myself were having one of our usual friendly chats and he just happened to mention that he had the full collection of the original Sun newspaper reports concerning Thomas Cutbush, and at the time I urged him to publish these missing 12 lines for the benefit of further discussion.
He chose not to do so at the time, but I wish he would.
Yes, Robert, the curious speech mannerisms of Thomas, and this curious reference have long troubled me also.
Natalie Severn
07-02-2007, 06:21 PM
WOW!
Grey Hunter"s colllection is nothing short of magificent.
Maybe sometime he will:whistle:
Robert Linford
07-03-2007, 09:52 AM
Here is another mystery concerning the Solicitor's Journal item : before the attempted sale of the property(ies), THC was "served with notice" of the judgment. That does seem to imply a face to face meeting between THC and some legal official or other. But that can't be, because it was only later that THC was found to be a lunatic incarcerated in Broadmoor. I can only imagine that someone wrote to Thomas, apprising him of the judgment, and that the letter was opened by Kate.
Still, it does seem to be a very slipshod way of proceeding - a man receives an important letter and no acknowledgement is required?
Robert
A.P. Wolf
07-04-2007, 04:50 PM
Natalie
when one reads the Sun reports carefully it soon becomes obvious that the newspaper was in possession of much material pertaining to the strange case that really should have only been in possession of the police.
The editors and writers of the Sun had been given first-hand police information on the case, in some cases dating back to 1888; so which senior police officer was feeding them with this information?
Obviously one of the officers intimately involved with the Thomas Cutbush case, and the Whitechapel Murders.
Following on from the Macnaghten Memo, written in response to the Sun's suggestion that Thomas Cutbush was Jack the Ripper, and with the certain knowledge that one of their own officers was involved in the production of the Sun reports, what seems to me to be certain is that this senior police officer would have been punished for his 'talking out of school'.
Robert, we close one door on this mystery and another one opens, and a thousand doors down the corridor, we barely move an inch, but hey, that's half the fun.
Natalie Severn
07-04-2007, 06:55 PM
Hi AP,
I am not convinced that The Sun got all its information from one policeman AP.Newspapers keep "stringers",there is another term I have forgotten that the Victorians used for such local men who get to know the lie of the land through talking to policeman, other [local] news reporters etc.and pass on that information to one of the Nationals or bigger provincial papers for a relatively small remuneration usually----depending on the story.If the big paper"s man gets the scent of a good story they work with the stringer quite often to get more info and they themselves relentlessly pursue neighbours,hospital staff,police, anyone at all who will give them information. Now there was a senior Scotland Yard policeman ,Superintendent John Shore who was said to be very corrupt and who worked very closely with the madam of a brothel ,said to be a police spy.The brothel was close to Fleet Street.Ofcourse [Sir] Edward Jenkinson maintained all the police were all corrupt on the Ripper case ,and he is on record as saying this was why they never caught the Ripper.Well that could just be sour grapes for having been sacked couldnt it?
But I think you get a glimpse of how things worked from the Littlechild : Sims correspondence.......Sims will be pumping Littlechild for information on the Ripper which he will later sell to his newspaper,or put in his book.Littlechild tries to oblige,as we see in the letter not entirely clear possibly about exactly who or what Sims wanted information about.
In short AP,you are probably right in this instance that one of the police on the case "talked",maybe over a pint etc but it didnt have to be come by this way,there were undoubtedly other networks they could rely on too to get their stories.
Natalie
A.P. Wolf
07-04-2007, 07:50 PM
Natalie, as a journalist for many years I cannot dispute what you say about the means and methods of news gathering, and the hounds of hell used in such winnowing and gathering of information.
However in the Thomas Cutbush case, as reported by the Sun, we see a flood of documented evidence, as gathered by the police - and admitted by Macnaghten in his Memo - such as private letters, statements to the police and independent witness statement made to the police, the details of the drawings made by Thomas - which were in the hands of the police - and most importantly details of his trial which had not been released to the press or general public, which could have only been known to officials involved in that trial.
I do view this as being unusual in such a case.
Natalie Severn
07-04-2007, 08:01 PM
I did wonder AP whether or not you were a journalist at one time....just a hunch and I was right!
You are quite right here.There was a huge amount of intimate knowledge dug up about a man who hadnt even been allowed to plead.Who then do you suspect the policeman was? surely not Uncle Charles?
Natalie
Robert Linford
07-04-2007, 08:17 PM
Nats, I think AP has Race in the frame for that one. And Race had the knife.
A.P. Wolf
07-05-2007, 11:30 AM
Quite right, Robert, Race it is.
There are a couple of points in the Sun reports which do show clear collusion between a police officer and the newspaper on this Cutbush story:
'The rooms in which the man lived were searched. In them was found that extraordinary letter which we published yesterday - but there were other things - papers which had reference to women; and stuffed up the chimney a police inspector found waistcoats wet, having been washed, and coats, the sleeves of which smelt of turpentine.
Anong some papers which had been torn up and found in an overcoat in the room were...'
(Illegible.12 lines missing).
'The letter from FK (the father of one of the girls supposedly stabbed by Thomas Cutbush) was sent to the police.'
And then there is that odd expression used in 'A Journalist's Account':
'The Sun has got up the race with a skill and patience that might well be imitated by the Criminal Investiagtion Department.'
Robert Linford
07-05-2007, 11:46 AM
AP, at some point someone's going to have to check O'Connor's writings for any mention of JTR.
His wife wrote a book that can be read online, but it was about the American South.
Robert
Natalie Severn
07-05-2007, 11:46 AM
Yes Robert,I had realised that- its a while since I thought about it though!
Anyway Macnaghten took it upon himself to castigate Race over keeping that knife to himself for over three years,instead of sending it to the Prisoners Property Store --. Macnaghten at this point in the memo is clearly profoundly unhappy with Race and his behaviour over that knife.He then selects the knife for scrutiny doesnt he? He as good as says it couldnt have been used by the Ripper as it was purchased in Houndsditch 2 years and 3 months after the murders ceased ----[as if the Ripper was attached to his original 1888 knife like an umbilical cord ]-and if you believe, as Macnaghten did, that Frances Coles wasnt a Ripper victim.I am not so sure about this are you Robert? After all thats the moment in time when Thomas Cutbush is on record as being a very busy boy indeed with his bowie knife!
Natalie
Robert Linford
07-05-2007, 11:49 AM
Hi Nats
I would definitely keep the door open for McKenzie. I don't know about Coles. If that was the murderer heard walking away...well, it wasn't like THC to walk anywhere!
Robert
Natalie Severn
07-05-2007, 12:05 PM
Well it wasnt Sadler the state he was in,he wasfalling down drunk and would have been caught in no time.Thomas probably judged his moment,if he had really got it into his head to murder.Anyway,wasnt it simply that his footsteps were heard as he "disappeared"?
Natalie
Robert Linford
07-05-2007, 12:14 PM
Hi Nats
I agree, I don't see Sadler as the murderer. Curious coincidence, though : Sadler at one time lived in Hurley Rd where, if memory serves, THC was born. He also once lived or worked in Buck's Row - as at one time did three other Cutbushes.
Robert
A.P. Wolf
07-05-2007, 01:17 PM
Well spotted, Robert, that connective tissue between TC and Sadler. I made a note some time ago in the Source book that there are three connections between TC and Sadler, address and otherwise. Must go and check that again.
A.P. Wolf
07-05-2007, 02:02 PM
Robert, I found the note slipped between two pages in the chapter on Sadler. It says:
'Colicitt - Cutbush?
36 Hurley Road, Kennington Lane.
Buck's Row.'
You don't think it might be a forgery?
Only joking.
Robert Linford
07-05-2007, 02:09 PM
AP, have you had the note analysed?
I think THC was born at No.10.
Robert
A.P. Wolf
07-05-2007, 03:14 PM
I think it might be better, Robert, if I got the note breathalysed.
A.P. Wolf
07-05-2007, 03:25 PM
And it seems, Natalie, that young Thomas was not the only one who enjoyed making up images from the crimes of the Whitechapel Murderer:
'
Sporting Times: The "Pink 'Un'" World
by J.B. Booth
London: T. Werner Laurie, Ltd. 1938
284pp. Illustrated, index.
From pp 91-92:
Sims, who had a curious passion for the ghastly, always maintained that he knew the identity of "Jack the Ripper," and that his knowledge was also shared by the police. I vividly remember an evening in the study of his house in Regent's Park, when from a bureau he produced a horrible series of photographs of the "Ripper's" victims, the mutilations and wounds being emphasized in red ink. '
Dear old George must have enjoyed using his red pen.
(My thanks to Casebook for the report.)
Natalie Severn
07-05-2007, 05:47 PM
Yes AP,
I sometimes wonder about Dear Old George----another journalist who liked to have playful times!
Natalie
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