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How Brown
09-23-2007, 04:44 PM
1. Some of us are wondering if it's possible that in the near future Ripperologist magazine will be offering a disk with all the ezine issues on it. Any plans for this in the future?

Probably not a disk. We are looking into the possibility of publishing a year-end book that would accumulate the articles we have published during the year. This could be given free (we hope) to subscribers and sold to others. No promises yet though until we have fully investigated the economics of doing what we have discussed!

2. In all your years in Ripperology which murder site is the most baffling to you in terms of how the Ripper executed that particular murder?

I think the most mysterious of the crime scenes is the murder of Annie Chapman in the backyard of 29 Hanbury Street. How did he do what he did in virtual silence around 5:30 am with people like Richardson and Cadosch about, not to mention all the people who lived in other houses close to the yard? Additionally, how did the killer escape and not be noticed? The Chapman murder appears to be more mysterious the more one ponders it, constantly eluding explanation.

3. Do you believe that the murder of Mary Ann Nichols was more likely to have been a blitz killing or more like your typical Prostitute-John liason gone wrong?

Well it was a prostitute-John liasion gone wrong but only because he specifically set out to target a prostitute.

I feel that Jack was in charge in all the killings he did. I think this is shown by the deep neck cut in every instance and the following mulitation and removal of organs, the latter done in every canonical murder except Stride. I believe he knew what he was doing, so the term "blitz killing" is incorrect for the best-known Ripper murders.

Now the murder of Martha Tabram seems to have been more of a blitz killing by someone who was out of control. I thus would exclude Tabram and include Stride. It frustrates me that people so easily exclude Stride when she did, after all, have the same deep neck cut that the other canonical murders had, only not the abdominal mutilation. Perhaps I am a traditionalist but I hold to the old view that the killer was interrupted and went off in search of another victim.

But perhaps I should clarify that statement. It need not have been Diemschutz entering the yard with his horse and cart that stopped the killer going further. Remember, the killing took place next to a busy socialist club. It could have been some noise that came from the club that made him realize he was making a mistake trying to carry out his "full menu" (as it were) next to the club, so he did not go all the way in that one murder.

4. What area or aspect of Ripperology do you think that all of the web sites need to focus on more and perhaps focus on less?

Undoubtedly the Maybrick Diary has received much more attention that it should have both here and at Casebook.org -- I suppose I must be unapologetic to some extent because coming from Liverpool, the "problem" of the Maybrick Diary personally interests me. How did the Diary come about? Who is responsible for it? The writer was probably not James Maybrick, although the text of the Diary points to him as having been the author. Indeed, all the signs seem to point to him not having done it, if we allow that the writing does not match his, the inclusion in the Diary of wording which closely matches the wording of the police list of Eddowes belongings ("tin matchbox empty") and the (to me) bloopers that the Diary mentions the Poste House pub in Liverpool which was not known by that name in 1888, the writer's repeated idea that brother Michael Maybrick was a rhymer of verse rather than a composer of music. Who had the idea of putting together the two famous Victorian cases -- the Ripper and the Maybrick cases? That is what continues to intrigue me.

5. Which Ripperologists within the field in the last 5 years are making an impact and are influential in their own unique way?

There are a lot of unsung Ripperologists who are making important contributions to the field. I mean people like Robert McLaughlin with his book on the victim photographs; Gavin Bromley and his work on the Batty Street lodger; Rob Hills and his research into George Morris, the watchman in Mitre Square, and James Hardiman, the cat's meat man; and Neal Shelden and his research on the victim photographs, to name a few. Through the extensive and diligent work of such researchers, I am confident that we will continue to learn more about the case and its different aspects -- even if we never find out who Jack was.

Caroline Morris
09-24-2007, 03:50 AM
...the writer's repeated idea that brother Michael Maybrick was a rhymer of verse rather than a composer of music.

Er, tap tap Chris - I think you meant 'in addition to'.

Michael is well, he writes a merry tune.

:yo:

:ohwell:

Love,

Caz
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Chris G.
09-24-2007, 08:28 AM
Er, tap tap Chris - I think you meant 'in addition to'.

Michael is well, he writes a merry tune.

:yo:

:ohwell:

Love,

Caz
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Hi Caz

Yes but "Michael is well, he writes a merry tune" kind of trivializes the work of a man who was able to write a serious piece of music such as the "The Holy City" doesn't it? So that remark is also off-kilter for the facts of the situation, is it not? The Diary repeatedly characterizes Michael as a rhymester rather than a successful composer.

:yo:

Chris

Paul Butler
09-24-2007, 11:39 AM
Hi Chris.

I'm with Caz on this one. Holy city hadn't been written in 1889, and at the time of James' death Stephen Adams was indeed known as a writer of "merry tunes". Popular Victorian parlour ditties being his speciality.

He was never considered a serious composer in his day, and certainly isn't now. I was pleased to get hold of an Edison wax cylinder of his "We all love Jack", and very merry it is too! :dance:

The diary author got it right, when many people today would have quite understandably got it wrong, assuming his Holy city was typical of his normal output.

regards,

Paul

Chris G.
09-28-2007, 02:55 PM
Hi Chris.

I'm with Caz on this one. Holy city hadn't been written in 1889, and at the time of James' death Stephen Adams was indeed known as a writer of "merry tunes". Popular Victorian parlour ditties being his speciality.

He was never considered a serious composer in his day, and certainly isn't now. I was pleased to get hold of an Edison wax cylinder of his "We all love Jack", and very merry it is too! :dance:

The diary author got it right, when many people today would have quite understandably got it wrong, assuming his Holy city was typical of his normal output.

regards,

Paul

Hi Paul

Many thanks for clarifying that Michael Maybrick aka Stephen Adams was indeed known for writing jolly (or "merry") tunes, before he was known for writing the music for the "The Holy City." The hymn was his last collaboration with lyricist Frank Weatherly, published in 1892, after which it seems he stopped writing music and concentrated on his political career in Ryde, Isle of Wight.

All the best

Chris

Caroline Morris
10-03-2007, 11:42 AM
Thanks Paul.

And thanks Chris, for your acknowledgement.

According to Shirley's book, the public turned against Michael after Florie's trial and conviction, and he was 'booed off the stage in London'.

Love,

Caz
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Paul Butler
10-04-2007, 11:15 AM
……..and thanks Caz and Chris both.

Sorry to have hijacked your personal space on JTR forums with more of this Maybrick stuff Chris!

I blame Shirley Harrison a bit for the misunderstandings over Michael’s stature as both composer and singer, having repeated certain myths in her book from elsewhere.

Think of Michael as a sort of Victorian Russell Watson rather than as a Pavarotti and you won’t be far off. And as for him having more music in print than Arthur Sullivan….? Pretty wide of the mark I’d say.

All the best both.

Paul

Chris G.
10-04-2007, 11:24 AM
Hi Paul and Caz,

Thanks, Paul and Caz, for your contributions. Looking at it realistically, the groundswell of support for Florie after her conviction could have gravely affected Michael Maybrick's popularity. After all, the publicity that the Maybricks got as a result of the trial had made the name "Maybrick" world famous and could have made the name anathema to many of the public who sided with Florence. So all the good work he had done in building up his career prior to the death of his brother and Florie's trial could have been undone by the bad publicity and the sour note that the name "Maybrick" produced. The general public could also have read between the lines in the newspaper stories and seen Michael Maybrick's hand in the railroading of Florie's arrest and conviction.

All the best

Chris

Lyn Resthal
10-09-2007, 11:59 PM
Hi Chris,

May I ask a further question of you? I've recently been wondering whether you are still pursuing the John Anderson (gosh, I've completely forgotten his name at the moment.. but that's the only name that comes to mind - the seaman we discussed about nine or ten years ago) route. I remember that you were doing some considerable research on this chap at one time, and I've been wondering what became of that.

Thanks, Chris.

Chris G.
10-10-2007, 03:29 AM
Hi Chris, May I ask a further question of you? I've recently been wondering whether you are still pursuing the John Anderson (gosh, I've completely forgotten his name at the moment.. but that's the only name that comes to mind - the seaman we discussed about nine or ten years ago) route. I remember that you were doing some considerable research on this chap at one time, and I've been wondering what became of that. Thanks, Chris.

Hi Lyn

Thanks for asking about John Anderson. No progress on that front. I need someone to look at seamen's records as well as any records we can find in Chile in regard to his death and reported burial in the necropolis in Iquique. As you may recall, what we know about Anderson comes from an account by his fellow seaman Brame in Lloyds Weekly Newspaper in October 1896 (http://www.casebook.org/ripper_media/book_reviews/non-fiction/cjmorley/5.html). Another account in the Galveston Daily News of 6 December 1897 (http://www.casebook.org/press_reports/galveston_daily_news/18971206.html) gives the name as "John Sanderson" and the informant is one "John Long." The Texas account might be a garbled version of the first but it is hard to know for sure. Long might well have been, as he claimed, the cook on the Annie Speer so this account might bear out the first account that there actually was a seaman named Anderson or Sanderson who claimed to be Jack the Ripper and who made a deathbed confession. My other interest is the Jewish E division police constable Richard Brown who was let go from the police for not appearing on parade shortly after the murder of Mary Jane Kelly and who committed suicide by gunshot in Hyde Park at lunchtime on Friday, November 16, a week after MJK's murder. He was brought up before the Assistant Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, which would have been Robert Anderson. I do have more information on him besides what was published in the my article in Ripperologist No. 49, September 2003, on "The Mysterious Life and Death of P.C. Richard Brown." So hopefully another article on Brown will be forthcoming when I can marshal the information in publishable form. In a thread on Casebook from December 2003 (http://www.casebook.org/forum/messages/4922/5359.html), I talked about both the Anderson and Brown questions.

All the best

Chris

Lyn Resthal
10-10-2007, 08:53 AM
Thanks so much, Chris!