2009 U.K. Ripper Convention

[How Brown]

Well..not being the brains of this outfit and only the beauty,I'll try again to put this thread in the more better right spot.

[How Brown]

Recently,Adam Wood,editor of Ripperologist Magazine,mentioned on Casebook that there will be a U.K.Conference this year.

Thats great !!!:kiss:

Who will go?

[ferret]

That's the plan- hopefully!!!!!!!!!!!!!:kiss:

[Ravenstone]

I'm waiting patiently for more details, but I'm hoping to go.

[ferret]

Blooming well hope you do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:kiss:

[Mike Covell]

Adam Wood recently posted the following on the UK Jack The Ripper Conf 2009 page on Facebook,

31 Jan 2009.

Date announcement to be made shortly... probably October....

* Event MC confirmed
* Three events confirmed
* Outstanding Achievement Award recipient identified
* Auction and Raffle prizes in hand

The world is waiting...

[ferret]

:) :):tape: :) :)

[George Hutchinson]

I shall be there.

PHILIP

[ferret]

The cat and me too...............

[Mike Covell]

The cat and me too...............
The wife and me too!

[Lyn Resthal]

Pants. We're not going to be able to make it :cry: Perhaps in two more years I'll finally get the Cheese & Onion crisps & MJK pic Philip Hutchinson owes me..

[ferret]

Total total embuggerance and PANTS! (lol) baby!..........daren't post crisps tho...... well through the post!!!!............ hehe xxxxx
Will leave the pic up to Philip!

[ferret]

:kiss::kiss::kiss:

Ooooooooops bit odd there but hey!!!!!!!!!!! HUGS! xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

WHY do they put cheese and onion in blue bags and salt and vinegar in green these days AAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!! Disturbs and confuses a girl!!!!


............and where are those little blue bags of salt when you need 'em!

[Lyn Resthal]

I hardly recognised Portsmouth in '03 Suz, so Lord knows if anything, except my dad's driving, will be recognisable in another two years -- by all accounts, certainly not your 'aise! I'll need to be met with a guide dog when I ever do make it back or I'll be bloody lost for sure..

Wasn't there a Smith's factory along the Eastern Rd at one time?

I wish we could make it there in October!

[Sam Flynn]

Suzi,

When I saw...

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac287/HowieNina/smiths2.jpg




Sorry for being such a vulgarian, but can I help it if you post piccies that my brain might misconstrue? ;)

[Adam Wood]

Details to be announced shortly...

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac287/HowieNina/advert.jpg

[ferret]

Don't call me shortly! :) :) :) xxxxxxxxx Gorgeous pic!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jimmy]

Gareth,

If I didn't know any better, I'd say that was Pattie Boyd/Harrison in that crisp advert.

J

[ferret]

Blimey! could well be- or Mrs Ringo (Maureen!):).......looking back at that ad- I don't remember 'hamburger' flavour- do you??...Doner Kebab maybe- but p'raps that wasn't crisps!

Smiths had a factory on the Southampton Road just behind the school where I taught for 20 odd years and you could always tell what day it was by the wafts in the windows- Mmmmmmm Salt and Vinegar....must be Tuesday .....'Cheese and Onion'... Thursday without a doubt!
Kept me on the straight and narrow- (salt and vinegar!) to know what day it was- of course the kids used to be allowed out for an hr at lunchtime in those (happy) days and strangely my store cupboard was filled with odd boxes of........well you know!
As a factoid- Frank Smith opened his first crisp factory in Cricklewood in 1920!!!...blessim!

[Chris G.]

Gareth,

If I didn't know any better, I'd say that was Pattie Boyd/Harrison in that crisp advert.

J


"It was while filming A Hard Day's Night that George met Patti Boyd, ... Before that film, she had only appeared in adverts for Smith's Crisps, ..."

From BBC.co.uk (www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A676974)

Adam, smashing photo and promo!

Chris

[ferret]

BLIMEY! Chris!!!!!!!!! well spotted!!!:kiss:Coo .....the image of her and the lovely George sharing a little blue bag is more than I can bear------Hard Days Night- OMG am put in mind of Wilfred B as Pauly's grandad on the train.....- 'He's a clean old man' aaaaaagh! .............'He's very clean' (Lennon)

Gawd I can see it now!

[Robert Linford]

That looks like a crinkly crisp. I don't remember their being crinkly. Patti Boyd might be crinkly now, but I don't remember the crisps being crinkly.

[Chris G.]

Hi Suzie

Aye that was a nice little turn by Wilfred Brambell in "A Hard Day's Night" and made him more famous worldwide probably than his more substantial part in "Steptoe."

All the best

Chris

[How Brown]

Dear Adam:

Thanks very much for the information you've provided. Thats a great photo as C.G. mentioned.

I wish I could go...but British Customs hasn't rescinded their order to keep undesirables outta the U.K. ...so I'm probably gonna be stateside listening to the ballgame on the radio.:banghead:

Keep a sharp eye on Covell-Klosowski too...He mentioned something privately about him needing a lot of towels and ashtrays at home....and I get the impression he only wants to go to London for that sole purpose.

[Lyn Resthal]

Dear Adam:

I wish I could go...but British Customs hasn't rescinded their order to keep undesirables outta the U.K. ...so I'm probably gonna be stateside listening to the ballgame on the radio.:banghead:


Bull, How. Meet me and Dan at the airport and I'll hide you in my handbag while Nina is sweetalking the officials. We only have to worry about them Googling us on the way back, and who cares about that?

[How Brown]

Lynners:

I may take you up on that only to drag A.P. to the Convention with us.

A few dozen games of casino...a bottle or two of brandy...and I'll have A.P. singing karaoke with Aliffe & Adam. I promise:)

[Lyn Resthal]

I'll be sure to wear a short skirt, then ;) (Oh, Lord, though, A.P. be aware, my thighs aren't in the best shape these days.)

A.P. only needs get there via ferry. He has no excuse whatsoever.

[Big Jon]

Ah come on How, UK customs will let any American through. It's every other nationality (including the Welsh who live here!) they get picky about!

[Sam Flynn]

A.P. only needs get there via ferry. ... you mean he won't walk across? What a let-down :(

[Lyn Resthal]

I want to watch either way, Gareth.

[ferret]

Great line/ image there Gareth!!!:)

[Adam Wood]

Hi all,

Event details now announced...

The 2009 Ripper Conference will take place on 24th and 25th October at the King's Stores, Widegate Street E1.

Full details at http://www.ripperconference.com/

Best wishes
Adam Wood and Andy Aliffe,
Conference Organisers

[Bob Hinton]

Well done chaps, one slight niggle could you please do something about the awful font? It is far too small and the colour is perfect camouflage against the background.

[ferret]

Booked up!! Friday and Sat night-Travelodge, Liverpool St-£73 a night-:) damned reasonable- and if you're driving-you get to park in White's Row- a Park with a view!!!!!!

Yep I couldn't read it either but it is half way through a Sunday afternoon....mid Gardener's Question Time!!

[Sam Flynn]

Ibis, me. Friday-Sunday.

(Suzi: don't say you're going to miss the open bar on the Sunday night!)

[Jackie Murphy]

Hi all

I am undecided whether to stay in London or not as I live 30 minutes by train away and last train is 12.30. Where are others staying? I love the atmosphere of the conference and don't really want to miss that bit by travelling, but don't know any of the local hotels.

Jackie xx

[ferret]

:kiss:Ibis, me. Friday-Sunday.

(Suzi: don't say you're going to miss the open bar on the Sunday night!)

Not like me to miss a bar- open or not- but I plan to be home on Sunday night (with mi own open bar!):)

[ferret]

Hi all

I am undecided whether to stay in London or not as I live 30 minutes by train away and last train is 12.30. Where are others staying? I love the atmosphere of the conference and don't really want to miss that bit by travelling, but don't know any of the local hotels.

Jackie xx
Try the Travelodge Jackie-don't want to be Suzi no mates- and also I've had two fire alarms at 5 00 am at the Ibis- warning warning- and strangely nothing to do with me!!!

Suz xxxxxx

[Mike Covell]

Lock up your archives, Mikey boy is coming to London!

The wife has agreed that I can come, alone, unescorted, on weekend release!

[ferret]

Does Susan know that Dids is coming..........................

[Jackie Murphy]

I've just looked at the different hotel websites and may stay over. I would rather know who is staying where as I don't really like walking down the roads late at night since my daughter and I were mugged in Petticoat lane a few years back. Where is the travelodge? Liza usually stays at the city hotel and I know where that is. The cheapest is in Aldgate but as it's close to my station I might as well go home!

Jackie x

[Mike Covell]

I agree with Jackie on this one, let's pool our knowledge and all shack up in the same "gaff" as you Londoners call it!

Last time a Hull boy stayed in Whitechapel 5 women turned up dead....

[How Brown]

Lock up your archives, Mikey boy is coming to London!

The wife has agreed that I can come, alone, unescorted, on weekend release! Covell-Lothario Lytton

I'll tell you what....if I did get the green light over here to go alone, people better lock up more than their archives if Mike and I get loose in the Big Smoke together. Why,I'd go straight over to the houses of all those gorgeous British ladies by the names o'...:brick:OUCH !

Never mind....:nono:

[ferret]

Ooooooh Gawd have booked the Liverpool St.:confused::eek::confused: Travelodge now.........and paid for it!!!!!!!!

It's close- closer than the Ibis I reckon!...Well to be honest nowhere's that far from where we are is it......... Better to hunt in a pack though maybe....eeeeeeek

Come on Nina- come- and bring Howie too!

[Mike Covell]

After my washout valentines day, I am never going near another woman again!

We get rid of the kids on Friday night...she falls asleep!

To make up for this, she promises all sorts of weird and exotic bedroom antics on the saturday!

Saturday comes...she falls asleep!

[Sam Flynn]

I went for 't Ibis because it had better reviews. Plus, the lift's broken in the Travelodge... and in these cash-strapped times, it might not be fixed by October ;)

[Sam Flynn]

After my washout valentines day, I am never going near another woman again!

We get rid of the kids on Friday night...she falls asleep!

To make up for this, she promises all sorts of weird and exotic bedroom antics on the saturday!

Saturday comes...she falls asleep!
You got off lightly, Mike. My mate's wife stabbed him between the shoulder-blades on Valentine's Day a few years ago. He staggered into the pub next door with the knife still hanging out of the back of his jumper. How we laughed!

[How Brown]

Only kidding with the last post...no insults intended or suggestiveness meant.

I'm off to the emergency ward for the lump-up I just recieved by Mein Boss.:boxing:

[ferret]

There is that Gareth!- but it's only Feb 15th- that's got to be timely even by Travelodge standards to get that lift mended!!!!- BUT having been in t'Ibis on the 7th floor when there was a fire alarm/no lights/no water at 5.00am and taking to 500000,00000000000000,0000000000000 stairs- I'm prepared to risk it!!! Mind you it was good to get onto the pavement and have a legal cig!!!

They're all about 10 mins walk from eachother!.......and....... don't bother with breakfast when there's a bagel heaven up at the top of Brick lane!!!

[Ravenstone]

I'd definitely be interested if we could get in the same place!

Honestly - last Fortean Times Uncon I attended, I got lost in the hotel. My friends were waiting in the bar for half an hour :embarassed:

I'm probably the only person in the world who needs a Sat Nav indoors

[ferret]

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeee heeeeeeeeeeeeeee OK if we get on the same floor- well not the same floor ! That may help PM me your email and will send you details!!!---at least there will be 2 of us at the Travelodge!! (Well 3 with the cat!):kiss:

[ferret]

'Ere we go
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The red thingy is where the do's at and the black dot is the Travelodge OK ? Really close to Aldgate tube Station- no fire engines- well not at 3 o' clock pm!!!!.... It's a 5-10 mins walk from there... tops!

Sorry about the crap pic but was doing it quickly x

[Jackie Murphy]

Thanks Suzy,
I know where it is now. The map thingy that Adam posted was too small for my old eyes to see! My dilemma is that I do live really close. It would only be £40 in a cab to get home plus a fiver for the train the next day to get back, so is it cost effective to stay? More fun, certainly, but if the bar shuts at 11 I could still go home by train! If I remember rightly, the fun starts after the bar closes (or it did in Brighton!)

Jackie xx

[ferret]

YEP go on stay!!!!! OK I'll bring mi spoons....but as long as they're not a fire hazard !!!!!!!!!!- all will be well- and there's always the Stella!!!! xxxxxx

OR we could all crash on your floor!!!!!!!!! heeeeeeeeeeeee!!

Oh and on that map the Ibis is just up from Aldgate East up Commercial St

[Jackie Murphy]

Suzi

I can't open personal messages. Try sending me a message via facebook, or get my e-mail address from Liza, Caz or Adam.

Jackie xx

[ferret]

The Travelodge Liverpool St address is
1,Harrow Place
E17DB and phone is 08719846190

Get bookin' !!!!! xx

[Jackie Murphy]

Suzi, Helen,

I'm going to book the travelodge as it's close to fenchurch street station (yes, I am an Essex girl!). Are you staying on the friday night too?

jackie xx

[ferret]

Yep Friday night and Sat night at the Travelodge- going home Sunday afternoon- if I'm spared!!!

Suz xxxxxxxxxx (and Dids )
Let me know on this when you've both booked !

[Sam Flynn]

Yep Friday night and Sat night at the Travelodge- going home Sunday afternoon- if I'm spared!!!See you on the Friday, Suzi - remind me nearer the time!

[ferret]

'Er yep remind me too!!!!! Hehe Gawd- there's a hell of a LOT of days between now and then!!! (Note to Self- heart-lungs-liver- keep going!)!!!!:kiss: x

[Big Jon]

Wooo! Conference!

So is everyone going to the Travelodge and leaving Sam on his own, or are we not coordinating?

How many people from out of London are staying sunday night aswell?

[ferret]

Hi Jon
The Ibis,the City and the Travelodge are all about 10-15 mins walk apart-I'm sure we'll all meet up on the pavement for a cig, or retrieving the odd sonambulist at some point during the night!!!:)

Not staying Sunday night me-----got to get home at some point having been away since Friday!!! :/...besides the cat will need his injections again-after that w/e !! (LOL) xx

[How Brown]

Dear Jackie Murphy:

I have manipulated your settings. Let me know if you can open the message I have sent you just now.

HB

[Sam Flynn]

So is everyone going to the Travelodge and leaving Sam on his own?They'd be the sensible ones. Actually - so far - there are at least two others staying at the Ibis as well. And, no, I don't mean my probation officer and social worker ;)

[Jackie Murphy]

Howard

I've been playing with my settings, so to speak, and managed to unblock pop-up messages as this was the problem. Feel free to message me!

Jackie xx

[Ravenstone]

I'd be arriving Friday afternoon and leaving Monday morning. I haven't booked anything yet. I need to organise other things first - such as funding.... And how I'm going to get there, without involving public transport.

[Jackie Murphy]

Why don't you do public transport? I only do public transport!

Jackie xx

[Big Jon]

The Aldgate East travelodge is a bargain at £39 a night and according to google is less than 15 mins walk away from the venue. Think I'll book there. Won't decide till I get my next student loan payment though!

[Jackie Murphy]

Jon

I saw this hotel earlier, and thought about it. It's close to fenchurch street station, and if I stayed there I might as well go home on the train as I don't want to walk down the roads when the pubs close. But you being big and strong should have no problems! Walking the streets I mean!

Jackie

[ferret]

Just PM'd you Jackie!!! Gawd these hotels are getting a bit daft!!! Bet we all ending sleeping on eachother's floors!!! OK Gareth?:):nono::)

[Jackie Murphy]

My house isn't big enough for stragglers/late bookers/streetwalkers, etc, so I'd better book a room! It's surprising how many people are coming!

Jackie xx

[Adam Wood]

Hi Jackie,

Why so surprising?! Over 100 attendees in Wolverhampton... my spreadsheet already shows 30 people interested just from today's announcement.

I'm very interested to know how how many people are planning to be around Friday and Sunday nights - we might well have some entertainments planned!

Adam

[Ravenstone]

Why don't you do public transport? I only do public transport!

Jackie xx

LOL! When I lived in the Midlands, all I ever did was public transport! But down here in the South West, public transport is so useless you get out of the habit.

At a guess, it would involve a lift to Tiverton or Exeter, then through to Reading, then a change .... and then no-one would see me again, because I'd get trapped in a loop on the Underground, forever searcing for the right connection, like some unfunny version of Groundhog Day..... :shocked:

Plus, how would I carry all those books I plan on buying???

[ferret]

Sounding great here Friday night has possibilities!!!!!!!
Off to bed me and going to have a think-Got the builders in again tomorrow to continue ripping out our bathroom so will get back while the bang crash goes on upstairs!!! Well done Adam,Andy et al.

Exciting 'eh- shame it's so long away!!!! :) :) :)

[Sam Flynn]

I'm very interested to know how how many people are planning to be around Friday and Sunday nightsMe for starters.

[How Brown]

Dear Jackie and all you Brits....

40 pounds is roughly $60 in real...er, American money.

It costs $ 60 to take you no more than on a 5 mile ride?... Whew !!!

I know what profession I'd check into if I moved to the U.K. the instant I hopped off of the plane. It still only costs around $10 for an 8 mile ride in Philly and I know.... I used to moonlight as a hack to keep the monkey on my back way back in early 1980's.

Thats a real outrage. My friend at work told me that he would have had to give up smoking if he had to live in London for anymore than a week...I know Andy Aliffe was stunned when I told him about the $1.40 per pack cigarettes I get from the Native Americans in New Mexico and still do,back in 2006 in Baltimore at the US Convention held there.....

I'm still shaking my head at how you poor folks try to make ends meet over there. I hear rent is pretty damned high for apartments too.

Sorry for the intrusion on this thread: Back to The UK Convention planning.

[Sam Flynn]

Just PM'd you Jackie!!! Gawd these hotels are getting a bit daft!!! Bet we all ending sleeping on eachother's floors!!! OK Gareth?:):nono::)Just keep Liza at a safe distance ;)

[Jackie Murphy]

Adam,

I meant it was surprising how much interest this early on! I fully expect that I will meet loads of new people and forget their names just as I have at every conference so far! I will definitely be taking part in any extra curricula activities on the friday and sunday evenings, and as it looks like a few people will be around, I'm probably better of booking a room as my hubby will worry about me walking the streets.

Helen,

point taken! We in the south-east take public transport for granted.

Jackie xx

[Big Jon]

I'm very interested to know how how many people are planning to be around Friday and Sunday nights - we might well have some entertainments planned!



I'll be around on those nights.

[Adam Wood]

There goes the neighbourhood.

Jackie, I think the interest is because the announcement is very late this time, so some pent up expectation there!

Still lots of work to be done, but we do have an event in mind for Friday evening if enough people turn up...

Ada,

Me for starters.

[How Brown]

I'm probably better of booking a room as my hubby will worry about me walking the streets.--Jackie

I'm pretty sure he would Jackie..for some reason,I... ahem...think he would.:kiss:

[Ravenstone]

point taken! We in the south-east take public transport for granted.


I know I took it for granted in the Midlands. Fact is, around here, it's not uncommon for buses to just not turn up because the bus driver can't be bothered to take an empty bus around the route.

Now why can't I find out how much that damned car park in Middlesex Street costs! I mean, surely it's a simple enough question? Instead, I'm just getting sent around different NCP pages just giving me addresses! Argh!

[Sam Flynn]

Now why can't I find out how much that damned car park in Middlesex Street costs! I mean, surely it's a simple enough question?My mate parked at the NCP in St Martin's Lane (WC1) while we went to see an opera. Just over three hours later, after the show, we returned to the NCP to find that the bill came to almost £20, as I recall. My mate's reaction: "Celebrate, guys! Looks like I just bought myself a car park!". That was 14 years ago - perhaps the tariff has come down since then, or perhaps Middlesex St is cheaper?

Edit: here are the current prices for the NCP at St Martin's Lane...

2 Hours £ 11.00
2 To 4 Hours £ 17.00
4 To 6 Hours £ 23.00
6 To 9 Hours £ 29.00
9 To 12 Hours £ 35.00
12 To 24 Hours £ 40.00
Motorcycle Per Day £ 3.00

[Mike Covell]

The Aldgate East travelodge is a bargain at £39 a night and according to google is less than 15 mins walk away from the venue. Think I'll book there. Won't decide till I get my next student loan payment though!

Sounds like a plan Big guy, should be staying Friday and Sunday nights too, saves rushing about. I was also planning on spending Friday day in Islington, visiting some of Stephenson's haunts I missed last time around. What can I say, I am obssessed!

[ferret]

Gawd- Cold grey light of morn here.......anyone got any tariffs for the ubiquitous Whites Row car park or any others near the venue?

[ferret]

Hi gang
Just called White's Row car park 02073296520 and the approximation to stay from Friday through to Sunday afternoon would be in the region of £32.50-£35
P'raps they'll do us a deal! (with protection at 10% !)

[ferret]

http://www.citikey.com/business/10049490/
Check out the White's Row car park (red flagged) Travelodge is in Harrow Pl.

[Mike Covell]

Link them all up, and you get a Vesica Pisces!

[ferret]

Link them all up, and you get a Vesica Pisces!

Bugger!! I thought that!- there goes mi' next book!:)

[Mike Covell]

Jack the Ripper-DIDS Magic Rituals!

[ferret]

Seriously scary stuff there from the Black (and White) magus !:)

[Ravenstone]

12 To 24 Hours £ 40.00


*Thud*

*picks self up off floor. Reads message again*

*Thud*

Just called White's Row car park 02073296520 and the approximation to stay from Friday through to Sunday afternoon would be in the region of £32.50-£35
P'raps they'll do us a deal! (with protection at 10% !)

£35 for the whole weekend?

[Stephen Thomas]

Cheaper at weekends?

[ferret]

Looking like that- I called the number above and spoke to one Abdul :tape:and he rattled out something along those lines!! Give him a ring!!!! It is the closest I reckon.....

[TimeRover]

They certainly used their heads in pricing the conference fees this year. 75 quid. The airfares across the pond have dropped. So tempting. I'm supposed to be in Seattle that weekend at a steampunk convention. Double the airfare and I'm in London. In October. I could go to newly renovated St. Martins-in-the-Fields or have a gander at the Great Fire Memorial that is now actually viewable. I could visit a friend in the Royal Docklands. I could do all sorts of things at a price infinitely better than the $2/pound the last time I was there. Like buy a bloody pint. Or three.

Oh, drat. Decisions....:drama:

TimeRover

[Adam Wood]

Dear all,

We're delighted to announce the creation of an official blog on the Conference at www.ripperconference.com/blog.

Mike Covell will be updating you all each Saturday from now until October, sharing his thoughts on the latest developments as the event takes shape.

Best wishes
Adam Wood and Andy Aliffe
Conference Organisers
www.ripperconference.com

[Bob Hinton]

They certainly used their heads in pricing the conference fees this year. 75 quid. The airfares across the pond have dropped. So tempting. I'm supposed to be in Seattle that weekend at a steampunk convention. Double the airfare and I'm in London. In October. I could go to newly renovated St. Martins-in-the-Fields or have a gander at the Great Fire Memorial that is now actually viewable. I could visit a friend in the Royal Docklands. I could do all sorts of things at a price infinitely better than the $2/pound the last time I was there. Like buy a bloody pint. Or three.

Oh, drat. Decisions....:drama:

TimeRover

Since I missed you last time, please try and make it this time.

[Mike Covell]

Will you be there Bob? My copy of "From Hell" is in need of you signature!:kiss:

[How Brown]

Great news Adam ...thanks for sharing this.

Mike's one of the prime bloggers on Casebook's wonderful little section of blogs...he and John Bennett, who has a day in honor of his name and efforts on these here Forums ( check the calendar) deserve an awful lot of respect for their tireless work.

I give you this Mike...:kiss:...and hope that you are up to your eyeballs with information to load on the blog.

[TimeRover]

Since I missed you last time, please try and make it this time.

I'd love to finally meet you! I have various irons in the fire that need to get sorted before I make a commitment. I have already begun talking up the idea to the spouse. If we don't do the other trip, complete with taking the train from Seattle to Chicago, we could do the London to York to Edinburgh journey. My next Rover book may well be set in Edinburgh so the research portion would be valuable, though it will be some time before that book is written. Still, it's a grand excuse to visit Scotland which is on my list of "must see" locales.

I remember Alan Sharp talking about expensive UK train tickets. Wow -- your train fares are amazingly high. A coach seat on Amtrak from Seattle to Chicago is $150 for a 45 hour journey. A second class ticket from London to E'burgh is $216 for a bit over 4 hours. :faint:

TimeRover

Jana

[Sam Flynn]

Wow -- your train fares are amazingly high. A coach seat on Amtrak from Seattle to Chicago is $150 for a 45 hour journey. A second class ticket from London to E'burgh is $216 for a bit over 4 hours.
It depends, Jana. If you buy in advance, it can be as low as £42.50 each way, provided you make sure you'll be on the train you've booked - it's still much more expensive, mile for mile, than Seattle to Chicago, however. To give you an idea of how daft our train pricing system is, here are the various "deals" quoted for precisely the same journey, London Euston to Edinburgh Waverley Station, on precisely the same days:

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Sometimes it's cheaper to book multiple single tickets for a given journey, depending on whether you're travelling before 9AM, after which fares become dramatically cheaper. So, if you're travelling from "A to Z", but you don't hit 9AM until you reach station "F", it sometimes pays to book a single from "A to F" and another single - at the lower rate - from "F to Z". You might not even have to leave the same train, but it'll be much cheaper than buying a ticket straight through from A to Z. How stupid is that?! Mind-bogglingly complex, and a minefield for the unwary.

[How Brown]

Sammy & Cazzie...

With prices like that just for the train, it all points out the necessity of drinking and driving together. :playball:

Besides, they don't have bottle openers on buses or trains.

Just trying to help out.

[TimeRover]

You know, Sam, I got to thinking after I'd posted that I certainly didn't pay anything that outrageous when we went to Telford, Wolverhampton and Manchester the last trip. I made a mental note to go to the trainline.com site and maybe find better fares. You certainly did!!

I will definitely keep your A-Z rule in mind. I know the rates change for the Tube, but didn't think about that for the train. Thanks for sharing that tidbit. The less I spend on transport the more I can afford for a nice hotel and the occasional bit of scotch. :high5:

TimeRover

[ferret]

Will you be there Bob? My copy of "From Hell" is in need of you signature!:kiss: You mean you've got an UNSIGNED one Mike??? Hang onto it- it's worth a fortune!!!!!!!!! Heeeeeeeeeeeeee:kiss:
xx

[Mike Covell]

He either sings the book, or signs my bare chest!

[ferret]

Blimey!!!!!!!! Photo opportunity!!!!:becky:

[George Hutchinson]

Sings the book? Bob? Singing the book?

That will make for a more relevant karaoke.

PHILIP

[ferret]

He heeeeeeeeeeee great image!:becky:

[Caroline Morris]

Sammy & Cazzie...

With prices like that just for the train, it all points out the necessity of drinking and driving together. :playball:

Besides, they don't have bottle openers on buses or trains.

Just trying to help out.

Ah, but I keep an emergency bottle opener with me (for emergency soft drinks of course :tape:) and my return journey to the conference this year, by bus, train and tube, should only set me back the price of two off-peak travel cards, £15 in total.

I'm getting really excited already, so Liza must be practically beside herself. :high5:

Love,

Caz
X

[ferret]

Quite right- A girl should never be without her patent 'Emergency Soft Drink Opener'.

'Tis exciting 'innit!

Calm down Liza.....8 months to go!!!!! Ka booom!!!

:):):):) xxxxxxxx

[Mike Covell]

New Blogg entry posted, http://www.ripperconference.com/blog/

[TimeRover]

I've continued my stealth campaign to convince the husband that London/Edinburgh in October would be just awesome. The falcons at Dalhousie made the job easier, that's for sure.

So if finances steady out on this end, we'll commit ourselves to a lovely weekend with you folk. That would be splendid. Besides, I'd love to take the 2-hour tour with the Grand Master.

TimeRover

[Adam Wood]

We are delighted to announce two speakers appearing at the Conference, both focusing on aspects of the same victim.

Elizabeth Stride: the Beginning will feature Daniel Olsson's unique research into Liz's birthplace and early years, shown in the form of a exclusive preview of Daniel's DVD, currently in production for 2010. Copies of this promo DVD will be available to buy at the Conference.

Elizabeth Stride: the End will feature Philip Hutchinson on the Dutfield's Yard photograph, which he'll be showing and exploring its origins. This will be the first time that the photograph has been shown to a large audience in the UK, having been presented at last year's Ripper Conference in the US and fleetingly on the Casebook message boards.

Best wishes
Adam Wood and Andy Aliffe,
Conference Organisers
www.ripperconference.com (http://www.ripperconference.com)

[Mike Covell]

Great news on the speakers, and an interesting theme.
I have posted a new blog here, http://www.ripperconference.com/blog/

[SirRobertAnderson]

I'm planning on attending. Can't wait!

[Chris G.]

I'm planning on attending. Can't wait!

Looking forward to seeing you there, Sir Bob. I will be there. :thumbsupbud:

Chris

[Jeff Leahy]

Quite right- A girl should never be without her patent 'Emergency Soft Drink Opener'.

'Tis exciting 'innit!

Calm down Liza.....8 months to go!!!!! Ka booom!!!

:):):):) xxxxxxxx

That long ah! Anyone for retracing Martha and Pearli Polls pub crawl?

I could ware a soldiers uniform :playball:

Pirate jeff x

[Sam Flynn]

That long ah! Anyone for retracing Martha and Pearli Polls pub crawl?It'll be a fairly short one, Jeff. Not many of the original pubs left now :(

[How Brown]

Jeff:
Do me a favor buddy....when you get to the Convention, please make sure Sir Bob brings back hotel towels like he said he was going to do in 2007 for me, He lied. The ashtrays he lifted for me in 2006 have all been broken so you could mention ashtrays to him as well.

Thanks buddy,

[Jimmy]

That long ah! Anyone for retracing Martha and Pearli Polls pub crawl?

Hah! Lightweights!

Personally I'd like to give the Sadler/Coles pub crawl a bash, only I don't think I'd see much of the conference. Or the following week to be quite honest.

:wof:

[ferret]

Aww!.. OK Jeff you wear your uniform and come on 'the ta ta ' with me, Caz (bring the emergency number!)- and the cat (purely for protection!)!......I dare ya!!

John!! be there with the camera! :kiss: Don't want to be the one to take the photo of one or other of us with our head on the table though!

(Isn't that SUCH a sad drawing BTW)

[SirRobertAnderson]

Jeff:
Do me a favor buddy....when you get to the Convention, please make sure Sir Bob brings back hotel towels like he said he was going to do in 2007 for me, He lied.
Thanks buddy,

Yikes. I thought you told me to "hack ho's bowels", which was far more in keeping with the spirit of the event. But I feel bad if she was an honest woman....

[How Brown]

Bob:

Now I see why I received the 65 foot arboreal beauty pictured below instead of the ash tray.

[Robert Linford]

Never mind, How. Here are some monkey ashtrays for ya.

[Sam Flynn]

Never mind, How. Here are some monkey ashtrays for ya."Have a gorilla, Neddie."
"No thanks, they hurt my throat."

[Caroline Morris]

Was that from the Ba-Boon Show?

[Adam Wood]

We are delighted to announce that there will be an official photographer at this year's Conference.

Gail Dowle will be taking shots of the the entire weekend on our behalf, with a view to our providing these on a CD after the event.

Remember to smile!

We're also pleased to make a correction to our last announcement; Daniel Olsson has been in touch to clarify that the DVD available for purchase at the Conference will be the full documentary, not the promo as previously announced. This is therefore an exclusive opportunity for those attending the Conference to obtain the full version of Daniel's exceptional work, not widely available until 2010.

Best wishes
Adam Wood and Andy Aliffe,
Conference Organisers
www.ripperconference.com

[TimeRover]

We are delighted to announce that there will be an official photographer at this year's Conference.

Excellent news. Well, except for those of us in the witness protection program but you just can't everything.

TimeRover

[Chris G.]

Bob:

Now I see why I received the 65 foot arboreal beauty pictured below instead of the ash tray.

One of the things that puzzled me in the opening chapter of Ulysses by James Joyce was why Stephen Dedalus was carrying an ash plant around. Of course "ash plant" was the type of walking cane he used. . . . :rolleyes:

Chris

[Nemo]

I would love to see the spoof Ripper documentary - is it available before/during/after the conference? - hopefully for download if possible?

[Adam Wood]

We're delighted to announce that deposits are now being taken for this year's Conference.

Spaces are limited, so we recommend paying early. Please visit the dedicated webpage to do so:

http://www.ripperconference.com/payments/

Best wishes
Adam Wood and Andy Aliffe
Organisers,
Ripper Conference 2009

[Adam Wood]

Dear all,

Incredible as it may seem, all places for this year conference have now been booked, with all 65 delegate places sold out in 24 hours.

However, it's possible that people that have currently paid deposits will be unable to attend. If you would like to be on the standby list, with those first in line to be contacted should people drop out, please contact us via email at mail@ripperconference.com

Best wishes
Adam
Organiser
Ripper Conference 2009

[How Brown]

Thats very good news Adam...it shows that interest in the WM is on the upswing...due to a lot of younger people becoming involved, more internet based research being conducted, lots of good discussion turning into action. more dedicated hard core Ripperologists... and of course worldwide attention to my captions.

If'n you get a chance, be sure to put up the latest cover of Ripperologist on your Forum.

Cheers

How

[Mac The Knife]

Bummer! I would have liked to go to this. :banghead:

[JTRSickert]

Correct me if I'm wrong but this is the first time in a long time the convention has been held in London.

If so, it's good to see Jack returning home.

[Chris G.]

Correct me if I'm wrong but this is the first time in a long time the convention has been held in London.

If so, it's good to see Jack returning home.

This is the first time a Jack the Ripper convention has been held in London. The location, King's Stores, Widegate Street, is within walking distance of all of the key sites in the case.

All the best

Chris

[Currerbell]

Where were they held before then???? I cant believe there hasnt been on in the heart of Ripper country before!

[ferret]

Ipswich,Bournemouth,Liverpool,Brighton and Wolverhampton.

[SPE]

Ipswich,Bournemouth,Liverpool,Brighton and Wolverhampton.

What about Norwich in 1998?

In 1988 the Police History Society held their annual conference in the City and it was a 'Jack the Ripper' special. It was not, however, solely a Ripper conference as the Ipswich conference in 1996 was the first of these.

[ferret]

Sorry Stewart!!..... forgot Norwich!!:o

[JTRSickert]

For the next US one, I propose it be held in Philadelphia. I know Howard would sympathize.

[How Brown]

JT:

Yeah, we've got numerous venues for holding a Convention and actually, too many historic places for visitors to check out. Plus,I'll even cook for the masses...My cookin' is up there with my captions and natural humility.

Plus we like our murders here...up to 199 ( underreported just like the asylum escapes are ) at the moment...so a convention held for the benefit of serial killer aficinados is right up our alley.

And then there's the Badlands....a tour or adventure for all Ripper liberals and sappy humanitarians (yecch....)to get their minds right. I'll personally escort one and all through the heart of darkness known as North Philly to see how de udda half be libbin'. You ain't got anything like this in Britain,lemme tell ya.

[ferret]

Sounds good!!! How's cookin' and I can take Dids trail riding with Arc!!!!:kiss:

[Archaic]

Hi, Suz, that's a great idea... except that I live 2,450 miles away from Howie and Philadelphia!

We are just about as far apart as the entire width of the U.S., lol.

There is a 3 hour time difference between us, too.


Just think how tired poor Pokey will be by the time she arrives in How's backyard to take you for a pony ride. :)

[ferret]

Endurance riding??? x

[Archaic]

LOL.

Better start putting Dids on a diet now, OK?

I'll go throw Pokey on the Stairmaster.

:)

[Sam Flynn]

If you're three hours ahead of Howard, Bunny, why don't you leave three hours earlier than you intended, that way cancelling out any potential time-zone problems?

Sorted :)

[Chris G.]

If you're three hours ahead of Howard, Bunny, why don't you leave three hours earlier than you intended, that way cancelling out any potential time-zone problems?

Sorted :)

Is that Welsh logic, Sam? :)

Chris

[Sam Flynn]

Is that Welsh logic, Sam? :)
It certainly has a certain Celtic flavour to it, Chris, I'll grant you that :)

[Archaic]

If you're three hours ahead of Howard, Bunny, why don't you leave three hours earlier than you intended, that way cancelling out any potential time-zone problems?

Sorted :)

Gee, thanks, Sam!
Wish I had a fine scientific mind like you and my Dad the Rocket Scientist. (He really was)

When I was little my Dad told me that the Italian Astronauts were planning a trip to the Sun... their critics had sarcastically pointed out that they would all be burned up as soon as their space-ship got close, but they had figured out a way around that difficulty...

they were going at night. :)

[Sam Flynn]

Wish I had a fine scientific mind like you and my Dad the Rocket Scientist. (He really was)
You're not related to the Seattle von Brauns, by any chance? :)

[Chris G.]

Gee, thanks, Sam!
Wish I had a fine scientific mind like you and my Dad the Rocket Scientist. (He really was)

When I was little my Dad told me that the Italian Astronauts were planning a trip to the Sun... their critics had sarcastically pointed out that they would all be burned up as soon as their space-ship got close, but they had figured out a way around that difficulty...

they were going at night. :)

That was probably *Hick*-arus and his boys after a night of Chianti and Spumante. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2467/3592488146_458e76994f_o.gif http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3512/3720808488_682e41fe36_o.gif

[Archaic]

You're not related to the Seattle von Brauns, by any chance? :)

Actually, Sam, my father met Werner Von Braun early in his career and was impressed by him... me & my dad used to get into arguments over that, as I said Von Braun was a War Criminal & should have stood trial. I still think so.

But guess which planet I saw last night when I was outside at midnight star-gazing?

Uranus!

No sign of his buddy Titan, though. :)

[Sam Flynn]

But guess which planet I saw last night when I was outside at midnight star-gazing?

Uranus!
Really - you must have a pretty decent 'scope, although if you know where to look, and have a clear sky, you should be able to pick it out using a decent pair of binoculars.

I'm enduring a dreadful spell of bad weather where I am, otherwise I'd be tempted to go hunting for it later meself :)
No sign of his buddy Titan, though.Unfortunately, Titan - and "Daddy Saturn" - is the other side of the Sun from us right now.

[SirRobertAnderson]

No sign of his buddy Titan, though. :)

Titan is usually the first sign that the evening is not proceeding to plan.

[JTRSickert]

Hi, Suz, that's a great idea... except that I live 2,450 miles away from Howie and Philadelphia!

We are just about as far apart as the entire width of the U.S., lol.

There is a 3 hour time difference between us, too.


Just think how tired poor Pokey will be by the time she arrives in How's backyard to take you for a pony ride. :)

Hey buddy. Not saying it's easy, but I've been to Europe 4 times over the last 3 years...and those places are a 5 to 6 hour time difference.

So, if you can afford it and if the convention is ever held in Philly, book it and hop on over! lol

[Archaic]

Hi, JT. I love to, but I still don't think I can afford to bring my horses.

Besides, How probably wouldn't like the idea of them sleeping on his living room sofa with their muddy hooves. :)

Suzy will have to visit me in Seattle if she wants that trail-ride... I'll throw in a Sasquatch-hunt on a genuine Volcano to make it worth her while. (Cameras and my dog as our only weapons, of course.)

[Adam Wood]

Dear all,

I'm pleased to be able to reveal the final, complete list of speakers and events at this year's conference.

Times of lectures, breaks and entertainment will follow, but in chronological order, the events are as given below.

SATURDAY 24 OCTOBER - 1889
Colin Cobb (MC)
Stuart Orme on Claypipe Alice
Chris George on From Kelly to MacKenzie: The Police Activity of 1889
M J Trow on the Torso Murders
Richard Jones on the Cleveland Street Scandal
Evening entertainment
Book room sales

SUNDAY 25 OCTOBER -
Ripper Tour with Philip Hutchinson
Paul Begg on ‘Leather Apron’
Philip Hutchinson on The Dutfield Yard photograph
Ripperland: A film by John Bennett
Outstanding Achievement Award
Ripper Raffle and Auction
Book room sales


Best wishes
Adam Wood
Organiser, Ripper Conference 2009

[Sam Flynn]

Great stuff, Adam - I'm looking forward to this immensely.

[ferret]

What the breaks??? When you getting there.....the cat wants to know...........

[Sam Flynn]

What the breaks??? When you getting there.....the cat wants to know...........On the Friday. Should be checking into the Ibis around noon, Suz.

[Jackie Murphy]

Hi Suzi,

I've asked for the friday off work so I can start early on the 'social' drinking and curry, but been told no. So I won't be there til about 4.30ish. If you are at the next society meeting (Robin Odell!) remind me to give you my new mobile number so you can find me when I do turn up.

I'm really excited now, especially after seeing the line up. Well done Adam.

Jackie xx

[ferret]

Hi Jackie
I haven't plucked up the courage to ask for the day off yet- 'cos its the day we break up for half term AND an Inset day to boot!! Trying to decide whether to do the old two day sickie or come clean......hmmmmmm. Won't sadly be at the Robin O'Dell meeting, not with the Conf too- may be pushing it a bit!!! so PM me your new mob number or pm me your email and will do it that way!!!
Yep exciting isn't it!!!...The cat's beside himself too!!

Suzi xx

[Jackie Murphy]

Suzi

I am soooooo excited! On the first day of term I got my diary out and tried to fiddle my PPA so that I was off that Friday, all went well until the head looked at the dates and vetoed it as it's half term the next week for us too.

My cover says I might be able to go an hour early which means I'll might be there for coffee.

Still, I can leave school at 3.15 and be on the 3.40 train and in the pub/Monsoon by 4.45! I can't wait.

Jackie xx

[ferret]

Hmmmmmmm Still working on what may be the best policy here....no way I can leave it till the end of school...Gawd wouldn't be there till closing time!!! Planning time I think!!!..S'Gonna be F U N!!!!!
Don't forget to PM or whatever me your mob no.

Suzi xx

[Sam Flynn]

Still, I can leave school at 3.15 and be on the 3.40 train and in the pub/Monsoon by 4.45!
A curry? That early? Surely not!

(PS: I'll be there, whatever happens... just remind me that's all :))

[Adam Wood]

Hi all,

I'm going to be sending out details of timings for the conference and there will obviously be a few people in London on the Friday, so a group meet sounds better than a host of smaller ones!

Is someone willing to offer a mobile number (via PM or email) that I can give out to those who want to meet up on the Friday afternoon/evening?

Thanks
Adam

[Monty]

Any excuse to get a number Adam.

Monty
:)

[Caroline Morris]

Hands up who wants to be 'organised' by Adam on the Friday night. :lol:

I already have Liza telling me what I want to do.

Love,

Caz
X

[Adam Wood]

Last time I did that I ended up with your number, Monty. Never again...

Caz, I've no intention of organising anyone on Friday - will be saving my energy for the weekend! ; )

Adam

[Chris G.]

Hi all,

I'm going to be sending out details of timings for the conference and there will obviously be a few people in London on the Friday, so a group meet sounds better than a host of smaller ones!

Is someone willing to offer a mobile number (via PM or email) that I can give out to those who want to meet up on the Friday afternoon/evening?

Thanks
Adam


Hello Adam

I am all for a grand meet-up on Friday evening. Doesn't it make sense to meet up at the King's Stores or a pub nearby? I leave that for you to decide. Because my wife Donna does not like curry, even if it is nowadays the cuisine of choice in the East End, the Monsoon would be doubtful for us frankly. :nono:

All the best

Chris

[Monty]

Disaster all round mate, I was most disappointed.

Im due to arrive Friday also.

Monty
:)

[Adam Wood]

Hi Chris,

I'm certainly not trying to muscle into anyone's current arrangements - anyone who knows me will know the word 'muscle' is seldom mentioned in the same breath as me - but it sounds like people are meeting for curry in the afternoon.

I know the Kings Stores is busy early evenings with after-work drinkers, so perhaps a hazy plan of suggesting folk meet from 7pm at the Kings might be a nice idea...

Adam

[Stephen Leece]

I'm happy with that.

[Caroline Morris]

Caz, I've no intention of organising anyone on Friday - will be saving my energy for the weekend! ; )

Adam

You know me better than that, Adam. You can organise me any time - I just need Liza's written permission in triplicate first. :lol: You're doing a grand job as usual.

Actually, we just plan to go with the flow from late afternoon onwards - a couple in the Spit at some point (all together now: "where's the Spit?" :)), followed by a lovely long Monsoon session, by which time I'll probably be pissed and just go where everyone else goes.

Can't wait! :kiss:

Love,

Caz
X

[ferret]

That sounds OK by me...reckon the mobile phone networks will go into meltdown mid afternoon on the Friday with the Where TF are you txts!! LOL xxxxxxx

[Chris G.]

Hi Chris,

I'm certainly not trying to muscle into anyone's current arrangements - anyone who knows me will know the word 'muscle' is seldom mentioned in the same breath as me - but it sounds like people are meeting for curry in the afternoon.

I know the Kings Stores is busy early evenings with after-work drinkers, so perhaps a hazy plan of suggesting folk meet from 7pm at the Kings might be a nice idea...

Adam


Great, thanks, Adam. Okay re the curried afternoon and a tentative meet-up at King's Stores from 7pm onward. Just as Marie Antoinette reputedly said "Let them eat cake!" I say, "Let them eat curry!" :high5:

Chris

[ferret]

Good plan Chris... At least you'll smell us coming!!!.......What d'ya reckon gang??

Suz xx

[Monty]

This is all too much for a wide eyed lad from Leicestershire.

Think I'll be like Merrick, stick a bag on me head and sit in the corner of my room.

Monty
:)

[Chris G.]

This is all too much for a wide eyed lad from Leicestershire.

Think I'll be like Merrick, stick a bag on me head and sit in the corner of my room.

Monty
:)


Hi Monty

At least we will all know who you are then. :)

Chris

[Sam Flynn]

I might not be there for the afternoon curry. Not only am I of the school of thought that curries are quintessentially post-pub events (call me common!), but I also plan on visiting the new exhibition at the British Museum before I head to Whitechapel. The exhibition's had rave write-ups already, and tells the story of the last Emperor of the Aztecs. The plus-point is that, if my evening curry gives me gyp, I can genuinely blame it on Montezuma's Revenge.

Fellow fans of Mesoamerican art and archaeology are more than welcome to join me if they wish. At the exhibition, that is, not on the bog afterwards.

[Big Jon]

Not quite sure what time I'll be getting to London yet. Need to look at uni timetable before booking my train.

Should make an appearance at the Kings Stores sometime that evening though.

[How Brown]

Jon:

Be ever so kind and per my request,whip up on Adam Wood and boost a convention packet for me. I think he'll be malleable enough after you display the mighty python like arms all Forums moderators naturally possess. If not, pay him for one and I'll cover the charges with you via PayPal. I wanna be there even if I can't be there...and also get someone to use their head and cover the convention with a camcorder and make a disc of the event !!! Chrissakes, its been 9 or 10 conventions and no one has the sense of a rented mule to do that simple task. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

Then ask him about how our 4 man covert op is going....you know the one.

Thanks

[Archaic]

Hey Adam, how about whipping up a little Pay-Per-View Rippercon feed so those of us who don't have tickets can watch over the internet??

Just think, the proceeds could pay for a Champagne Brunch for everyone at the Conference.

I'll give you Howard's credit card number. :)

[Jenny L]

Hey Adam, how about whipping up a little Pay-Per-View Rippercon feed so those of us who don't have tickets can watch over the internet??

Just think, the proceeds could pay for a Champagne Brunch for everyone at the Conference.

I'll give you Howard's credit card number. :)

I'd bite!

Seriously, have none of the conferences ever had their presentations recorded--not any of the festivities? What a loss!

Is there any prohibition against it-or are the participants all just selfishly enjoying themselves rather than making records for posterity? :tsk:

[Archaic]

Hi, Jenny, welcome aboard!

I'd be perfectly happy with even a home-movie of the conference, wouldn't you?

We can just sit home eating popcorn, knocking back cocktails, & watching all our friends having fun without us.

:)

[Big Jon]

Jon:

Be ever so kind and per my request,whip up on Adam Wood and boost a convention packet for me. I think he'll be malleable enough after you display the mighty python like arms all Forums moderators naturally possess. If not, pay him for one and I'll cover the charges with you via PayPal. I wanna be there even if I can't be there...and also get someone to use their head and cover the convention with a camcorder and make a disc of the event !!! Chrissakes, its been 9 or 10 conventions and no one has the sense of a rented mule to do that simple task. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

Then ask him about how our 4 man covert op is going....you know the one.

Thanks

I had already replied to this, but it looks like it vanished with the second bunch of outage.

I'll message Adam later and see what I can do and what the status is of the op.

I'm also looking at buying a voice recorder to take along to record interviews for the youtube show with speakers and delegates.

[ferret]

OOOOOooooooooh there are loads and loads of photos in a secure vault in Wickham!. Mercifully no videos (well in my posession!)- but they DO exist!!

Great to see Forums back!!!!:drum: xx

[Monty]

There are videos of Brighton and Wolves.

Ive seen the former as is on the latter.

Monty
:)

[ferret]

Ah!:jaw:

[Monty]

Suzi,

Only a select few has a copy of the Wolves one.

Has Neal Sheldens wonderful presentation on it.

Cheers
Monty

[ferret]

That's a relief Mont!!!

Spent two hrs in the dentists chair and have turned into Joseph Merrick- nice teeth tho!!!:pout: mouthwise.......... xxxxxxx

[Adam Wood]

Hi all,

As Monty says, parts of Wolverhampton were filmed but sadly not all.

This time, Jeff Leahy will be on hand to video proceedings and once I have the footage I'll be preparing a DVD.

Anyone thinking of recording the speakers needs to obtain their permission beforehand. I'm sure there'll be no problem, but common courtesy and all that...

Finally, I originally planned to run a laptop link from the conference to a live feed on the conference site, but sadly the venue doesn't offer a broadband connection. I'll be uploading images to the conference's Facebook event page after each talk, so you'll be able to view almost live!

Best wishes
Adam

[Archaic]

Thanks, Adam.

Please be sure to film the Floor Show; we want to see it all! :)

[Big Jon]

Anyone thinking of recording the speakers needs to obtain their permission beforehand. I'm sure there'll be no problem, but common courtesy and all that...



Not to worry Adam - I wasn't intending on recording the actual talks, but a quick chat with some of the speakers afterwoulds.

[How Brown]

Oh balls you won't !! Ask the folks Jon !!! Use your diplomatic prowess and fists if you gotta !!! I've gotta do all the thinkin' around here sometimes !! Ov vey !!! People are too reluctant to ask people from within their own community about things they may one day wish they had !!!!

Seriously,Biggie... please ask the people...I'm sure they'll give it a thought.:fish2:

[Big Jon]

The reason why was so I could enjoy the talks myself without fiddling with some piece of machinery and wondering about sound levels being too quiet and running out of recording space and what not. Technology stresses me out!

[Stephen Leece]

Jon, Adam's organised an impressive line-up- you've no need to worry about tech failures- there will be multiple cameras present anyway, irrespective of the official filming and photography. Not having time to ask questions? Don't worry. All the questions you have, will have been thought of by other guests, and I'm in no doubt there will be some questions asked that you haven't thought of, but wished you had. That's usually how these things go, and is perhaps the real fun of these occasions- the unexpected, unrehearsed elements of it... I have high hopes for this meeting, I think it's going to be very good considering the line-up of speakers, and the amount of new faces, such as yourself, that will be present. Could even be the best one yet. I hope it is the best anyway....

[Big Jon]

Sounds like I'm having my arm twisted here!

I will contact each speaker by email and see if they will agree to have their talks recorded for the show.

[Big Jon]

Change of plan - I can't afford a digital voice recorder at the mo, so I'm playing around with the voice recorder on my blackberry.

Fingers crossed it will do the job, will keep you updated!

[Sam Flynn]

Change of plan - I can't afford a digital voice recorder at the mo
... they are bloody expensive, Jon. I'd have thought that, with the advancement of portable technology as it is, one could pick up such a device for twenty or thirty quid. No such luck!

[How Brown]

Sam:

Don't be a dunce all your life...help my man out and....steal one outta someone's car.

Its like I have to do all the thinking around here anymore...I'm serious.

[Big Jon]

... they are bloody expensive, Jon. I'd have thought that, with the advancement of portable technology as it is, one could pick up such a device for twenty or thirty quid. No such luck!

I'm sure I saw one a few months ago for 20 quid ish, but either I dreamed it or it was on offer which is now over.

Ok, Blackberry recorder works fine. I can record up to 5 minutes of audio on it. So talks are out, but we can still get interviews.

[How Brown]

Mr. Rees:

Read post 202....I go outta my way to give good solid constructive advice and you just gimme the brush.:mad:

Sam will help you, trust me,he's good people...

[Big Jon]

Mr. Rees:

Read post 202....I go outta my way to give good solid constructive advice and you just gimme the brush.:mad:

Sam will help you, trust me,he's good people...

Well he does live in Neath. Car crime's a way of life there.

:heh:

[How Brown]

ThatsawhatI'matalkinabout Jon...it would be below someone like...Monty, who's bucking for dashboard sainthood in Leicete...Lettuceshire...ah dammit...the place where The Elephant Man came from...to break into a car...but not, ahem...'neath Sam .:)

[Big Jon]

We seemed to be getting a bit off topic, so discussion has been moved here (http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=7578)


Back to the conference: What is the definete time for friday night meet up so I can decide whether to be touristy Friday afternoon or Monday morning?

[ferret]

Hi Jon
Didn't we sort of decide 7.30 at the Kings Stores after a Spit sesh (!) and a Ruby at The Monsoon earlier in the afternoon (except Gareth! LOL )

Suzi x

[Big Jon]

I've been finding it hard to keep track!

What's a spit?

[ferret]

He he! Well in this case it means a small ladylike sherry in the 'Pride of Spitalfields' and a Curry in The Monsoon :flame:before trawling off to the Kings Stores:rofl:

Suz xx

[Monty]

Jon,

Pride of Spitalfields, affectionatly known as 'The Spit' is a pub in Henage lane, just off Brick lane.

Small boozer, modern build, traditional East end pie n mash brigade.

Monty
:)

[Sam Flynn]

Hi Jon
Didn't we sort of decide 7.30 at the Kings Stores after a Spit sesh (!) and a Ruby at The Monsoon earlier in the afternoon (except Gareth! LOL )
Too royal, Suz. Curries are distinct "evening-wear" as far as I'm concerned :)

[Big Jon]

Too royal, Suz. Curries are distinct "evening-wear" as far as I'm concerned :)

I think I agree with Sam. Do they do take aways? May grab one on way back to hotel after the Kings Stores!

[Archaic]

I feel that you lucky few attending the Conference owe it to the rest of us to eat authentic East End foods like pie-and-mash, as Monty suggested...

And I would like to add my own suggestion, which is that you serve the pie-and-mash with
a bowl of lovely eels and some local beer. For dessert, just wash it all down with a glass of bad gin.


PS: Please take photos; we will want reliable documentary evidence of your splendid authenticity. Thanks. :)

[Big Jon]

You mean curry isn't an authentic East End food?

[Archaic]

Only if it has eels in it, Jon!

Think 1888.

:)

[ferret]

Ooooooooooooooh yes these days curry is the food of choice!!!! I know what you mean about the 'later' curry though- let's see how it goes 'eh........... will pack the Zantac!!!!

There WILL be pics- doubt it not!! xx

[Archaic]

Come on, Suzi, get in your 1888 Time Machine and have that traditional East End gastronomical delight,

Pie-and-Mash-with-Green Gravy-and-Stewed Eels, all swimming together joyfully on your plate:

http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt355/2Archaic/JTRF/pie-mash-grrengravy-stewedeel1.jpg



Maybe you can ask for it Curry-flavored.

[Sam Flynn]

Come on, Suzi, get in your 1888 Time Machine and have that traditional East End gastronomical delight,

Pie-and-Mash-with-Green Gravy-and-Stews Eels, all swimming together joyfully on your plate
I'm rather adventurous when it comes to food, but I have to draw the line at that! Not because of the look - which is splendid - but because I can't face the risk of even the tiniest lumps in my mash. Badly-cooked spuds - whether boiled, fried, baked or mashed - make me retch. Not too enamoured of thin gravy or parsley sauce for that matter.

Jellied eels on their own, however, I adore.

[Big Jon]

Pie-and-Mash-with-Green Gravy-and-Stewed Eels, all swimming together joyfully on your plate:


I'll stick to the curry, ta!

[Caroline Morris]

Not over keen on pie mash (as Londoners call it) but eels are very tasty, whether stewed, smoked or jellied.

Obviously we all like and dislike different foods, but I bet most people who screw their faces up in horror have never even given these a try. I respect anyone who tries something new and doesn't like it, but I find it very rude when someone sits there pulling a face or making comments while I'm eating something they don't like the look of.

Love,

Misery Guts Caz
X

[Big Jon]

It's the sight of it I don't like Caz, and without liking the look of it, I'm not going anywhere near eating it!

But you carry on and enjoy!

[Caroline Morris]

Hi Jon,

Thanks, I will. :)

But really, people would have a lot more variety if they learned to eat with their mouths instead of their eyes. :rolleyes:

Love,

Caz
X

[Big Jon]

It's an all round experiance for me - sight, smell and taste!

[Caroline Morris]

Fair point! :yo:

Love,

Caz
X

[Sam Flynn]

It's mainly my dislike of even slightly sub-optimal potatoes - it honestly borders on phobia - that puts me off.

[Archaic]

I just pictured Sam as a little boy, heading off to school with his 'shining morning face'...

and a peanut-butter-&-jellied-eels sandwich in his lunchbox.

:)

[Sam Flynn]

I just pictured Sam as a little boy, heading off to school with his 'shining morning face'...

and a peanut-butter-&-jellied-eels sandwich in his lunchbox.
Don't like peanut-butter either, Arch. It's a bit like lumpy mashed potato in texture - and, worse, it's poop-coloured.

[Archaic]

Sorry, Sam.
I confess I do not know the correct condiment for Jellied Eel Sandwiches... Horseradish??

[Jeff Leahy]

I don’t think there’s a pie and mash shop left in brick lane? (there is one in Walthamstow) Although I know there’s an excellent baggle shop….I have a feelin’ curry is on the menue whether I like it or not.

(I’m probably the only person I know allergic to coriander!)

But if you ask me Archaic, this is just Garath’s way of sliding out of buying a round…

Bloody Welshman

Pirate

[Chris G.]

I don’t think there’s a pie and mash shop left in brick lane? (there is one in Walthamstow) Although I know there’s an excellent baggle shop….I have a feelin’ curry is on the menue whether I like it or not.

(I’m probably the only person I know allergic to coriander!)

But if you ask me Archaic, this is just Garath’s way of sliding out of buying a round…

Bloody Welshman

Pirate

Here, matey, this is your guide to pie and mash shops, Brick Lane and elsewhere--

Pie and Mash Shops (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWN,RNWN:2008-02,RNWN:en&q=%22pie+and+mash+shop%22+%22brick+lane%22)

Chris

[Sam Flynn]

I'm suddenly possessed by a powerful urge to actually try that stuff... even if I leave most of the mash untouched.

[Jeff Leahy]

I'm suddenly possessed by a powerful urge to actually try that stuff... even if I leave most of the mash untouched.

That liquor is a slippery road :hippie:

[Archaic]

That liquor is a slippery road :hippie:

Hey, Jeff... so are eels. ;)


Manze's says they are the oldest Pie & Mash Shop in London, founded in 1902... they're in Southwark, but apparently they deliver!
(You'll be happy to know their website also mentions Eels and Liquor...hopefully not made from eels.)

http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt355/2Archaic/JTRF/southwarkpark2.jpg

http://www.manze.co.uk/

[Jeff Leahy]

Eels are one of those strange things. Looks like you shouldn’t like them but actually they are just tasty fish.

That said the guy opposite cault one on Tuesday evening and asked if I wanted it…..I confess I chichen’d out…cooking the damn things is another matter!

Are you at conference Archaic?

Jeff :wacko:

[Archaic]

Are you at conference Archaic?

Jeff :wacko:

Unfortunately not, Jeff... but I intend to be there next year for sure.

That's why I want you guys to take lots of photos & maybe record some of the speakers, so I can live it vicariously through you.

Sob! :cry: - Cinderella

[Jeff Leahy]

Well I guess i'm your man as I've been booked to film the whole damn thing.

I dont suppose you or anybody has a contact for Jon Bennett? I'm looking for someone who might operate a second camera on the Sunday walk?

I have the equipment, just require help operating an 'Sony HDV E1'?

Jeff

[Adam Wood]

Dear all,

Just a reminder that any friends who were unable to get a delegate place for the full conference are very welcome to join us once the main events are complete, free of charge.

The times are as follows:

Saturday 7.30-11.30pm
Sunday 6.30-10.30pm

Both evenings will have some form of entertainment as well as the chance to catch up with the events of the day.

Best wishes
Adam

[ferret]

I'm suddenly possessed by a powerful urge to actually try that stuff... even if I leave most of the mash untouched.

NO you're NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaagh:wacko: tell me NOooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

[ferret]

Dear all,

Just a reminder that any friends who were unable to get a delegate place for the full conference are very welcome to join us once the main events are complete, free of charge.

The times are as follows:

Saturday 7.30-11.30pm
Sunday 6.30-10.30pm

Both evenings will have some form of entertainment as well as the chance to catch up with the events of the day.

Best wishes
Adam

LOL love that 'Some form' of entertainment!!!! :) :) :) :) xx

[Sam Flynn]

LOL love that 'Some form' of entertainment!!!!
I vote for monkey tennis.

[Archaic]

Sam, might I suggest a good round of bumblepuppy?


I don't know the rules, but I saw 'bumblepuppy' in a London history book; they used to play it there
long before Aldous Huxley appropriated the term in Brave New World.

[How Brown]

Not to sound bombastic or nothing...but when I go to the UK in 2011 with whatshername, all you babes will get the proper entertainment you've been dying for and I..:brick:..will, ouch...bring over my Scrabble game. Or we can play Ripper Trivia...in my room.

I'm gonna need to go get stitched for that last one...I'm over here oozing the proper red stuff. Since I got married and did Nina the enormous favor, my head is like a giant beanbag...all mushy on one side from the punches. No kidding...I have a slower brain now than I used to.

Adam Wood.....

Do you remember when we were in the bar with Andy...and that total stranger lady came up behind me and started massaging my neck and shoulders when I was sitting next to you and getting all cuddly like? Remember I lied and told her that I was Ruud Van Nistelroy, the soccer player for Manchester United... well...thats just an example of the effect I have on women with this...this...this overload of masculine pheremones I have. Remember that?

You might want to elaborate on that..since I try to be humble about such stuff.

I wish I could go to this event...:smash:...just for the ladies sakes.

[Chris G.]

Adam Wood.....

Do you remember when we were in the bar with Andy...and that total stranger lady came up behind me and started massaging my neck and shoulders when I was sitting next to you and getting all cuddly like? Remember I lied and told her that I was Ruud Van Nistelroy, the soccer player for Manchester United... well...thats just an example of the effect I have on women with this...this...this overload of masculine pheremones I have. Remember that?

You're dating yourself there, Howard. Ruud departed from Man U some time back, supplanted as the star of the team by Cristiano Ronaldo (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWN,RNWN:2008-02,RNWN:en&q=Cristiano+Ronaldo%2C), who has himself since departed, just as Ruud did, for the supposedly greener pastures of Real Madrid.

All the best

Chris

[How Brown]

Oh I know C.G....I dated far worse specimens than myself...but I ain't so bad with a few belts in me.:rolleyes:

Don't we hate Ronaldo anyway for the kick in the '06 World Cup ? Portugese...can't trust them for nothing....

[ferret]

As a by the by just reading the latest Pratchett- mostly dictated - but WONDERFUL!- "Unseen Academicals"- brilliant!!!
Right back to the Conf...............

[Adam Wood]

How, I'd rather not elaborate on that, because I was just jealous.

[How Brown]

Woody:

Looking at the lineup of this years UK gig, it looks to be a terrific experience. I am looking forward to 2011, even if Britain ain't.

The best of luck in 13 days old bean.

[Chris G.]

Hi all

To help finance the trip for Donna and myself to attend the UK Conference, I will have a table at the event at which I will offer books and Ripper- and era-related ephemera. Below is a rundown of what I am offering. If anyone is interested in an item before I pack it in my bag to leave for Heathrow Airport on Thursday, let me know and maybe we can swing a deal. Thanks in advance for your interest!

Ripper ephemera and books:

1) Period postcard of the Police Seaside Home, Brighton.

2) Brass medallion for Queen Victoria's 1887 Jubilee.

3) Period fold-out postcard showing London Bridge, late 1890s.

4) Victoria veiled head penny from the 1890's. Quite worn as appropriate for the period. So would you be by now.

5) American five cent piece or "nickel" from 1888, much worn but guaranteed to have been handled by Dr Francis Tumblety himself, when he wasn't handling other things.

6) Jack the Ripper's letter opener. Modern but looks Ripper knife-like with period filigree, in leather scabbard. Unfortunately does not come with signed confession.

7) James Maybrick's walking stick badge with 'Liver Bird' logo (unused). Jim was going to attach it to his cane in May 1889 but unfortunately events took a turn for the worse.

8) Copies of the CD of my Ripper musical, Jack The Musical, written with French composer Erik Sitbon, as performed in Charlotte, North Carolina, 2006.

9) Original copy page from the St Louis Republic, 16 January 1892 including story about "Jack the Slasher" attacking women in The Bowery, New York City.

10) Brass token from the big show of 1888, Sir Augustus Harris's The Armada at Drury Lane Theatre

11) Scenes from Sir Augustus Harris's spectacle The Armada at Drury Lane Theatre as depicted in The Illustrated London News, 1888.

12) Copy of first edition of The Man Who Hunted JtR. Signed by both Evans and Connell. Used hardback, fine condition with original slip cover.

13) The Trial of Mrs Maybrick. 1930's Great British Trials series. Used hardback, good condition.

14) The Trial of George Chapman. 1930's Great British Trials series. Used hardback, good condition.

15) Trevor Sharkey, Jack the Ripper, hardback first edition, 1988. Used, good condition, some pages have been bent over, original slip cover

16) Patricia Cornwell, JtR Case Closed, 2001 hardback first American edition, signed, fine condition with original slip cover

17) Pamela Ball, Jack the Ripper: A Psychic Investigation, hardback first edition, 1998, used, good condition, in original slip cover

18) Richard Wallace, Jack the Ripper "Light-hearted Friend", intro by Colin Wilson, 1996 paperback from Gemini Press, in used but decent condition

19) Andy and Sue Parlour, The Jack the Ripper Whitechapel Murders, 1997 hardback, signed, used, good condition

20) Alexander Kelly, Jack the Ripper: Bibliography and Review of the Literature, 1984 paperback, used, good condition

21) Melvin Harris, Jack the Ripper: The Bloody Truth. London: Michael O'Mara, 1995, hardback, used, in good condition with original slip cover

22) Ivor Edwards, Jack the Ripper's Black Magic Rituals, early edition from Penny Press

23) Assorted early issues of Ripper Notes, 1999-2002.

Chris

[SirRobertAnderson]

Finally booked my flights, thank goodness.

What hotels or casual wards near the Conference do people recommend ?