The Ghost of TITANIC meets JtR Conference 2011

[Jeff Leahy]

Hi all

Following the conversation between Richard Jones and Conference presenter Colin that the 2011 Conference is planned to be held in Belfast.

I was curious whether this was an official booking or just a heat of the moment of the top of the head suggestion?

Clearly their humous banter about mixing Ghosts, Titanic and Jack the Ripper on the same bill seemed to develop into a great idea, and the tenuous if amusing Prince Eddie connection to Titanic seemed of offer one of the best settings for a conference ever.

So I was wondering just how many Titanic v JtR connections you guys could come up with. And whether anyone could confirm when I can book my ticket on the Titanic?

Your Official Cameraman

Jeff Leahy

[Monty]

Jeff,

I may be wrong but it has suddenly dawned on me that you did not recieve an acknowledgement for the hard work you put in.

Everytime I looked up during a break you were either working away at your cameras or on your way from one piece of technical equipment or another.

Plus you and John Bennett carried you sizeable cameras around Whitechapel for a considerable period.

Many thanks to you both.

Monty
:)

[Jeff Leahy]

I wouldnt thank me till you see the end result.

But many thanks and great to see you.

I'm actually quite excited about the idea of Belfast as a Conference destination. I thought Colin did an excellent job taking over from Jeremy Beedle. He also gave me some great links to camera of the top of his head.

Besides if anyones going to make a movie with Ghost, Titanic and Jack the Ripper in the title...I want to be there.

Catch you soon

Jeff

P.S. Who was the News Paper owner who died on the Titanic?

PS PS I would like to appologize about the hair light and promise to get this stuff sorted in advance next time.

[How Brown]

Jeff:

That would be W.T. Stead, one time editor of the Pall Mall Gazette...who perished on the Titanic.

[Big Jon]

Thanks for all the hard work Jeff! Carrying those cams round the tour looked knackering! Looking forward to the final result.

Was the hair light the one that was shining in our eyes?

As for Belfast, I don't think its official, just Colin trying to sell the idea. I still reckon Swanseas the best place though!

Now how can we prove Stead was the Ripper so we can get this doc made?

[Currerbell]

Are there some connections between JTR and Belfast then?

[Jeff Leahy]

Well that was sort of the point of the thread.

We currently have two. WT Stead and Prince Eddie.

Apparently Richard jones is working on a book that links Mary Jane Kelly :caked:

But I was wondering if anyone actually had one?

Yours Jeff

PS still have 10 hours of tape in real time to digitize!

[ferret]

Well done Jeff- for all that- and sticking on the Coke!!!!!!!:thumbsupbud::dance:



:couch2:me now!!!
Suz xxxxx

[ferret]

Are there some connections between JTR and Belfast then?

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooh yes!!!!!! And a plaque on the wall to prove it too!!!!:focus:

[Robert Linford]

There was a minor temporary suspect who went off to Belfast. Needless to say I can't recall his name. I have an image of him shaving - that's all I can remember.:frusty:

[Jeff Leahy]

Parnell was from southern Ireland, county Kerry I beleive..

But he was prodestant?

Perhaps a Fanien connection? Though I doubt its what they would be lookin' fore.

Jeff

PS I'm currently watching Philip Hutchinson's tour well done Jon Bennet!!

[Sam Flynn]

Are there some connections between JTR and Belfast then?
Prince Eddie visited to open the pump-house at the Belfast shipyard in 1889. Or perhaps he was there to assassinate JFK... it's all a blur :)

[Currerbell]

Ahhh I knew all would be come clear as mud after I spoke to you lot ;-)

[Sam Flynn]

Ahhh I knew all would be come clear as mud after I spoke to you lot ;-)You had to be there at the time... as did Prince Eddie.

[Currerbell]

Of course...

PS for what my 2 pence is worth, Id prefer a conference somewhere in bonny England again...

[Chris G.]

Hi all

Following the conversation between Richard Jones and Conference presenter Colin that the 2011 Conference is planned to be held in Belfast.

I was curious whether this was an official booking or just a heat of the moment of the top of the head suggestion?

Clearly their humous banter about mixing Ghosts, Titanic and Jack the Ripper on the same bill seemed to develop into a great idea, and the tenuous if amusing Prince Eddie connection to Titanic seemed of offer one of the best settings for a conference ever.

So I was wondering just how many Titanic v JtR connections you guys could come up with. And whether anyone could confirm when I can book my ticket on the Titanic?

Your Official Cameraman

Jeff Leahy

I don't have my copy of Stewart P. Evans and Keith Skinner's JtR Letters from Hell with me but I should think there almost certainly were JtR letters sent from Belfast. Certainly there were letters sent from Dublin, and probably elsewhere in Ireland. Speaking to Stewart today, he thought there was a link between Parnell and the Fenians involved in the Phoenix Park murders.

Anyone for a talk on the similarity of the knives used in those 1884 political crimes and the Ripper murders and the whole idea of a Irish nationalist conspiracy to commit the Whitechapel crimes to shame the British government?

Of course there's Alan Sharp's London Correspondence: Jack the Ripper and the Irish Press.

The idea of W. T. Stead going down on the Belfast-built Titanic could be the basis of a talk on Stead and White Slavery.

It's perhaps not well known that Stead's accusation that Jews were to blame for prostitution in the East End led in 1885 to enlightened Anglo-Jews such as Constance Rothschild, Lady Battersea (1843-1931) forming the Jewish Association for the Protection of Girls and Women (JAPGW).

The JAPWG was the liberal Jewish establishment's response to Stead's anti-White Slavery campaign and was created to fight those elements who exploited recently arrived Eastern European females and forced them into prostitution or sent them on to brothels in North and South America. This is something I cover in my upcoming book, A to Z of Jack the Ripper and the Jews: Aarons to Zverieff.

Chris

[Jeff Leahy]

I don't have my copy of Stewart P. Evans and Keith Skinner's JtR Letters from Hell with me but I should think there almost certainly were JtR letters sent from Belfast. Certainly there were letters sent from Dublin, and probably elsewhere in Ireland. Speaking to Stewart today, he thought there was a link between Parnell and the Fenians involved in the Phoenix Park murders.

Anyone for a talk on the similarity of the knives used in those 1884 political crimes and the Ripper murders and the whole idea of a Irish nationalist conspiracy to commit the Whitechapel crimes to shame the British government?

Of course there's Alan Sharp's London Correspondence: Jack the Ripper and the Irish Press.

The idea of W. T. Stead going down on the Belfast-built Titanic could be the basis of a talk on Stead and White Slavery.

It's perhaps not well known that Stead's accusation that Jews were to blame for prostitution in the East End led in 1885 to enlightened Anglo-Jews such as Constance Rothschild, Lady Battersea (1843-1931) forming the Jewish Association for the Protection of Girls and Women (JAPGW).

The JAPWG was the liberal Jewish establishment's response to Stead's anti-White Slavery campaign and was created to fight those elements who exploited recently arrived Eastern European females and forced them into prostitution or sent them on to brothels in North and South America. This is something I cover in my upcoming book, A to Z of Jack the Ripper and the Jews: Aarons to Zverieff.

Chris

Well Jack the Ripper the Irish connections would have my Vote, it has nothing to do with the Guinness, honest.

jeff

[String]

A conference in Belfast would be handy for me, and probably only me. :)

[ferret]

Hi all
Would be good- but the air travel involved could prove a major barrier to some folks- purely on the matter of carrying large amounts of books etc etc.
Bit early to start this off but my vote would be for a Welsh connection...a Kelly based horror maybe..........:boom:

[Jeff Leahy]

Hi Suzi

I heard that Diddles had voted for the Isle of Man?

or was that a LONG TAIL? :caked:

xx

[ferret]

He he Hi Jeff!- Good one!:dance:

Hope the clever stuff with the filming going OK- well done you!

Suz x

[Big Jon]

The welsh connection gets my vote!

[ferret]

Hey Jon
Jeff's just asked a question about your speaker interviews on the other thread
Suz x

[Chris G.]

I don't have my copy of Stewart P. Evans and Keith Skinner's JtR Letters from Hell with me but I should think there almost certainly were JtR letters sent from Belfast. Certainly there were letters sent from Dublin, and probably elsewhere in Ireland. Speaking to Stewart today, he thought there was a link between Parnell and the Fenians involved in the Phoenix Park murders.

Anyone for a talk on the similarity of the knives used in those 1884 political crimes and the Ripper murders and the whole idea of a Irish nationalist conspiracy to commit the Whitechapel crimes to shame the British government?

Of course there's Alan Sharp's London Correspondence: Jack the Ripper and the Irish Press.

The idea of W. T. Stead going down on the Belfast-built Titanic could be the basis of a talk on Stead and White Slavery.

It's perhaps not well known that Stead's accusation that Jews were to blame for prostitution in the East End led in 1885 to enlightened Anglo-Jews such as Constance Rothschild, Lady Battersea (1843-1931) forming the Jewish Association for the Protection of Girls and Women (JAPGW).

The JAPWG was the liberal Jewish establishment's response to Stead's anti-White Slavery campaign and was created to fight those elements who exploited recently arrived Eastern European females and forced them into prostitution or sent them on to brothels in North and South America. This is something I cover in my upcoming book, A to Z of Jack the Ripper and the Jews: Aarons to Zverieff.

Chris

Baron Russell of Killowen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Russell,_Baron_Russell_of_Killowen) (1832-1900), defense counsel for Florence Maybrick and also Attorney General under Gladstone, was born in Newry and lived in the Rostrevor area of Northern Ireland, in the Mountains of Mourne. If we ran a bus tour down there, I could also show folks the monument on the shoreline of Carlingford Lough to Major General Robert Ross (http://www.themanwhocapturedwashington.com/) who burned the White House in 1814.

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Chris

[George Lorton]

Too cool for school :hail:

I, for one wish I had made that conference as it is not often that two of my interests collide like this. Titanic and Jack The Ripper meet up, fancy that.

Of course it is second hand I guess unless the real JTR was actually on the Titanic when it sank. Now there is a thought or theory that I thought (lol) that I would throw out there. Wish I had seen this a whole lot sooner.:D

[George Hutchinson]

George - I'm only commenting on your post without seeing if you're referring to anything else but - it never happened. There has not been a Conference in Belfast. This year's one is being held by the Whitechapel Society 1888 in London and there's more speakers than you can shake a walking stick with a demon head at.

PHILIP

[Nemo]

You're in luck George, I think a Belfast conference is planned for next year

[George Lorton]

George - I'm only commenting on your post without seeing if you're referring to anything else but - it never happened. There has not been a Conference in Belfast. This year's one is being held by the Whitechapel Society 1888 in London and there's more speakers than you can shake a walking stick with a demon head at.

PHILIP

Thank You, I wondered why I never heard anything of the said conference on the Titanic forums. Now I know. :happy:

You're in luck George, I think a Belfast conference is planned for next year

Thanks Nemo for the information. Hopefully I can save up my pennies for that.