Det.Sgt. Record

[Howard Brown]

Unfortunately, I haven't located the officer's first name yet...but he is the officer in charge at the scene at the December 7th, 1888 arrest of Joseph Isaacs on Drury Lane after committing theft inside the shop of Mr. Julius Levenson.

Each story I have been able to find with record ( no pun intended ) of Det.Sgt. Record involves burglary and theft.

This story, however, has a little more bite to it.

The Illustrated Police News etc (London, England)
Saturday, September 27, 1884

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[Howard Brown]

His first name was William.

The Illustrated Police News etc (London, England)
Saturday, January 9, 1886




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[Howard Brown]

Daily News (London, England), Saturday
December 15, 1888

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[Howard Brown]

The Illustrated Police News etc (London, England)
Saturday, July 6, 1889
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[Howard Brown]

Daily News (London, England), Monday February 16, 1891

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[Howard Brown]

You may notice that its stated clearly in the paper that the police attached considerable importance to the "sailor theory". Inspector Moore said as much a few years later to journalist R.Harding Davis.

[Chris G.]

You may notice that its stated clearly in the paper that the police attached considerable importance to the "sailor theory". Inspector Moore said as much a few years later to journalist R.Harding Davis.

Probably because a sailor-like appearance appeared to accord with the witness statement that Lawende made in regard to the man he saw with Eddowes in Church Passage. The sailor-like identification might be the closest the police came to nailing Jack though it does not seem that Sadler was the man they wanted....

Chris

[Howard Brown]

The following almost made me swallow my cigarette.

Earlier on the thread, I provided an article from September, 1884, where Detective Record was bitten on his little finger...

Fast forward nine years to 1893....and this time someone DID bite the end of his finger off.

Unbelieveable coincidence.

Plus the putz who bit it off only got 1/2 the sentence some guy recieved for nicking a handkerchief in another story I provided earlier.
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Daily News (London, England), Monday
December 4, 1893

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[Howard Brown]

Further examination into the previous story states that only a small portion of his fingertip was bitten off.

Thats the British for you....cool under fire.

Bite my fingertip off and you will lose one or both of your testicles...even if you're a woman. I'm mean like that.

[Howard Brown]

Here's one that will or should get your blood boiling. I'm good for that.

An example of "tough love" if ever there was one.

The Pall Mall Gazette (London, England)
Wednesday, March 7, 1894

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[Simon Wood]

Hi All,

The Times, 6th June 1932—

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Regards,

Simon

[Howard Brown]

Thanks for this Simon.

The many articles on Record came to an abrupt halt around 1900.

I noticed that he was still a Detective Sergeant in the last article I found in 1899.

[Simon Wood]

Hi Howard,

Maybe he wasn't ambitious, or perhaps he didn't cut the promotional mustard.

BMD puts his age at 85 at his death in June 1932.

This makes him 41 at the time of his involvement with the Whitechapel Murders, during which he appears to have been on temporary transfer, as in July 1889 he is recorded as being back in D Division [Marylebone]. He's back assisting H Division for the 1891 Sadler investigation and in 1893 is operating around Charing Cross [A Division] in the company of Detective Sergeant Long [of Goulston Street fame perhaps?]. And in his death notice he is recorded as having been a detective sergeant at Scotland Yard, so chances are good that his final years actually were with A Division.

Regards,

Simon

[Robert Linford]

Hi Simon

Long was Long gone by then, sacked in 1889.

Record gave two different birthplaces e.g. in 1891 it was Bermondsey but in 1901 and at the same address, he gives Sheerness in Kent. He is still with the police in 1901 (age 43) but ny 1911 he is a police pensioner aged 60 (!) visiting a household in Margate. Strangely he was single so I don't know where the son came from. Also, by 1911 his birthplace has shifted back to Surrey.

[Simon Wood]

Hi Robert,

You're quite right. I had it in my mind he'd been reinstated, but it turned out to be a different PC Alfred Long.

Regards,

Simon

[Howard Brown]

Thanks for the updates gents.