Site problems?

[Big Jon]

Tim or Howard,

Site was down for a bit earlier and now the site banners been replaced with a vbulletin logo. Any idea what's going on?

[admin tim]

Yes.

Our server host was upgrading the software with the latest version, which, as it turned out, was flawed. This is what was causing the problems.

I suppose the jtrforums logo was another casualty, but it should be easily fixed.

We have since reverted back to the previous version and all should now be well.

[Nemo]

Hi Tim

I thought you'd like to know that the links such as "new posts" or "search" has disappeared from above the forums - and the smilies

Regards

Nemo

[How Brown]

They're both back Nemo...and thank you for contacting me earlier.

I entered "gorgeous" in search and my name came up 50 times ....and this post will appear under new posts.

[Nemo]

Hi Howard

Sorry m8 - I still can't see them - the smilie thingys are definitely not available

[Big Jon]

I entered "gorgeous" in search and my name came up 50 times ....

The whole site must be riddled with bugs if you came up with that result!

[Chris G.]

Hi Tim

I thought you'd like to know that the links such as "new posts" or "search" has disappeared from above the forums - and the smilies

Regards

Nemo

No Smilies!!!!! NO SMILIES!!!!!! WHAT WILL WE DO??????? :rolleyes:

Actually the "New Posts" and "Search" buttons are still missing for me. :(

Chris

[How Brown]

Folks:

Try changing "skins"...at the very bottom of the page and go to the original default skin. I see 'search' and 'new posts' when I use the original skin.

Hopefully, our people can sort this out soon.

[Mike Covell]

I don't get that option on my screen Howard.

[How Brown]

Mike:

Nothing that I can do at the moment, but hopefully Tim will contact our people and they'll be able to do something. Sorry pal.

Hope you feel better.

[How Brown]

For the time being...I'd suggest going to the right hand side of the front page and clicking on the last post OR...going to the left hand side and opening up the entire Forum ( Such as "suspects and theories" ) and look at the date of the most recent post and if interested, read that one.

This is annoying, I know, and I apologize for the problems people may be having. However, we didn't experience any loss of material...which is a good thing.

http://jtrforums.com/search.php?do=getnew (http://jtrforums.com/search.php?do=getnew) <<<< Click for New Posts for the time being

[Sam Flynn]

Actually the "New Posts" and "Search" buttons are still missing for me.
If you want to bring up new posts, in the absence of the button, click on the following link:

http://jtrforums.com/search.php?do=getnew

It will activate the "New Posts" functionality, provided you're logged in - you can also make a bookmark (or "Favorite") of it. (Incidentally, this is the way I always access New Posts on various forums, and I have a few such bookmarks in my bookmark bar. I don't use "New Posts" buttons at all :))

[How Brown]

Thanks for that Sam.

I've added it to my signature below.

[Currerbell]

I cant log out either as the log out part is missing!

[Sam Flynn]

I cant log out either as the log out part is missing!I always choose to remain logged-in, so it doesn't affect me, Bell.

If, for some reason, you want to logout, I suppose the following might work:

http://jtrforums.com/login.php?do=logout

Let me know :)

[Currerbell]

It logs me out but then the original page is still underneath so Im still logged in! I prefer to log out everytime...

[Sam Flynn]

It logs me out but then the original page is still underneath so Im still logged in!I think you'll find that you're logged out, albeit the logout message appears on a new tab, Bell. The "underneath" is presumably the old tab from which you clicked the link.I prefer to log out everytime...I reserve that "belt-and-braces" approach to internet banking or webmail pages - for friendly sites, like JTRForums (and what could be friendlier? :)) I'm more than happy to take the "keep me logged in" option.

[Stan Reid]

I can't get "new posts" and my last post wouldn't go through either. I am getting in though which I couldn't yesterday.

[Stan Reid]

Thanks How - got it

[Robert Linford]

Change skins!? What is this - Silence of the Lambs?

[Currerbell]

I love the new map logo at the top but please can we have the rest back! I still cant log out, and the list at the top of the page has gone, the bit with new posts, search etc, I cant do any of that!

Help!!

[Sam Flynn]

I love the new map logo at the top but please can we have the rest back! I still cant log out, and the list at the top of the page has gone, the bit with new posts, search etc, I cant do any of that!
The "New Posts" thing works with the link I posted earlier, Bell - in fact, when you click the "New Posts" button (assuming we had one), all it does is invoke the following in the background:

http://jtrforums.com/search.php?do=getnew

Clicking that link is no different from clicking a "New Posts" button. Honest! That's how it works.

As to searching, try typing (or copying/pasting) the following as a temporary measure into Google:

site:www.jtrforums.com SEARCHWORD/PHRASE inurl:jtrforums.com

Substitute SEARCHWORD/PHRASE with the word or phrase you wish to search against (e.g. "leather apron") like this:

http://www.btinternet.com/~gareth.h.williams/images/searchphrase.jpg

After clicking the search button, Google does the rest:

http://www.btinternet.com/~gareth.h.williams/images/results.jpg

Not ideal, but pretty good as an interim measure!

[Debra Arif]

Thanks for the search tips, Sam.
I was getting on ok with your 'new posts' link until the post with the link disappeared from the main board menu! :(

Hopefully things are going to be restored back to how they were at some point?

[How Brown]

I love the new map logo at the top but please can we have the rest back! I still cant log out, and the list at the top of the page has gone, the bit with new posts, search etc, I cant do any of that! -Bell


Bell....that map is from back in the old days....I'm still looking for the design that Nina came up with. We're in the same boat, sweets.

Hopefully these problems will be rectified soon. Its out of my hands,seriously.

[George Hutchinson]

Ah - thought it was just me having issues. Yeah, I can't check what's been posted since I last visited without going through every part of the site. Still, if it's getting sorted then I'll say nowt.

PHILIP

[Stephen Thomas]

Just checking to see if my lovely avatar has come back.

[Stephen Thomas]

Yesssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[How Brown]

The avatars are back as a result of Nemo achieving 1,000 posts without getting into one dispute or argument. It perspired me to ask Gomer Mosley to put 'em back in action.

In our field, thats like Joltin' Joe DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak in 1941....or me going two days without getting into an argument.

[Robert Linford]

So where's mine?

[Chris G.]

Wait a minute, do I have an avatar or not?

I feel like Steve McQueen in the Devil's Island film "Papillon" -- "How do I look?"

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4227935043_18d24b47b6_o.jpg

http://www.itsjustdm.com/2006/01/how-do-i-look.html

[Sam Flynn]

Wait a minute, do I have an avatar or not?

I feel like Steve McQueen in the Devil's Island film "Papillon" -- "How do I look?"

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4227935043_18d24b47b6_o.jpg

http://www.itsjustdm.com/2006/01/how-do-i-look.html
Heeeeeeere's Johnny!

[How Brown]

Bob Robert and CG:

Don't ask just anyone...ask the administrator. Thats his end of the deal. He's a bum and I've been firm on this for 5 years. Its why he rakes in a hefty $2.70 per hr. and not one cent more.

Yesterday I asked him to resubjugate the avatars in light of the prognathus efforts of Nemo ( Mr. Nice Guy )...and it looks like you two took a trimming.

Let me see if I can fix it....although you need to know that I once rewired a '66 Buick once...and due to a kupla mistakes here and there made it possible to start the engine by merely opening the passenger side door.

Wish me luck.

[How Brown]

CG,Bob...

Better yet, send me your avatar of choice and let me resize it and put it up.

[admin tim]

Those whose avatars are not working must now supply one of their own since the picklist is also defunct. This is why some have visible avatars and some don't. Those who do not have an avatar selected from the picklist that we have in place, and which was another casualty of the upgrade. Even the avatars forum is mostly out of commission, so these features will likely be long in restoration.

[Nemo]

Thans for the sentiment Howard - I'm not that nice really - lol

And I have no idea what prognathus means - but much appreciated just the same

[How Brown]

Neither do I Neems*...it just looked like a word intellectuals use...and I'm trying to be one for 2010.

Quim Pro Quo. Tempus Fugit Rebelhat



How




*Its actually the type of jaw Hungarians and apes have.

[Bob Hinton]

I now find it impossible to use the site. This one I mean.

file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Bob/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.jpg brilliant now I can't upload images or copy anything to my post!

What is going on?

[How Brown]

We've experienced a server problem...which isn't new.

Supposedly, its being looked into. I'm also concerned with 2,000 attachments which are "in" the system...but I can't get my hands on them. I'm neither happy or surprised.

Send me any attachments you have to share since I use Photobucket and I'll put it on whatever thread you wish me to place them on when I get home from work.

[Nemo]

Well done guys

The front page / new posts thing looks great

[ferret]

BUTstill NO NEW POSTS ...ergh!!:smash:

[admin tim]

file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Bob/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.jpg brilliant now I can't upload images or copy anything to my post!


Bob:

You can't link to images on your hard drive - you can only upload these as attachments. To link, you will first have to upload the image to Flickr, photobucket, etc., and then link to it.

[Stan Reid]

Well done guys

The front page / new posts thing looks great

What new posts thing?

[ferret]

Chaos here- Can't get anything right xx:rofl:

[How Brown]

Stan:

The new posts function that usually appears on the top of the page doesn't for some people. We're working on it.

All new posts can be accessed by going to the bottom of any post I made on the site and click on that link....like the one below.

Suzi:

We're still trying to fix the problem with the skins.

All new posts can be accessed by clicking on the link in any post that I made or make....like the one below.

[ferret]

Cheers chaps!!! Seven barrels of snow here at the moment so hoping to be snowed in tomorrow- everything crossed 'eh!:dance:

Suz x

[ferret]

Really whizzy!!!! Great! Thanks chaps xx:dance:

[How Brown]

Suzi:

How many inches.....of snow... are you getting,sugar?

[ferret]

About 4" as I type (of snow!!!) Hoping it's going to go all night-traffic stopped blocking the road - out here in the sticks- hoping for at least ten inches in the morning!!!! (snow again!)................sadly!:scared:

Suz xx

Dids has a GREAT Did's size fiddle- must email you a pic!

[How Brown]

4 inches of snow ? That's not bad sweets.

I had that much on the threshold of the hacienda...after I sent whatshername outside to shovel a spot for us to park in two weeks ago when we got 20 inches....of snow....and she got about half of that...again in snow....down her boots and like a dummy forgot what I told her about tracking snow in the house..................

............................I have to go now as my head is bleeding from a terrific whack I just got....

[Sam Flynn]

4 inches of snow ? That's not bad sweets. I sent whatshername outside to shovel a spot for us to park in
"September, 1939. The last minutes of peace were ticking away. Father and I were watching Mother dig our air-raid shelter. 'She's a great little woman', said Father. 'Yes, and getting smaller all the time', I added..."

Spike Milligan, Adolf Hitler: My part in his Downfall

[How Brown]

Suzi:

Thanks for the little friend...and the violin !:hug:

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac287/HowieNina/Photo%20Thanksgiving/dids.jpg

[Sam Flynn]

Thanks for the little friend...and the violin
For God's sake, don't tell that cat what the strings are made of!

[How Brown]

Sammy:

Don't worry....I ain't got the guts...

[Nemo]

Yesterday I asked him to resubjugate the avatars in light of the prognathus efforts of Nemo

I found that prognathus word quite by accident today

It's on the first page of Mayhews London Labour & London Poor - with a definition!

[How Brown]

Jawdroppin' ain't it Nemo ?:rolleyes:

[How Brown]

Again, I apologize for this continuing problem with the skins....

Some apparently have no problems with logging out. Nina can't log out now yet I can. I cannot explain why.

Our overpaid administrator is allegedly working to remedy this problem and I can only say thank you for your patience. I know its a pain in the ass.

ATTENTION:

If you have a problem with your menu options (e.g., cannot log out, cannot see new messages link, etc.), then please post a message to that effect on the Site Problems thread,

http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread....3857#post93857 (http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread....3857#post93857)

and it will be taken care of.

[admin tim]

ATTENTION:

If you have a problem with your menu options (e.g., cannot log out, cannot see new posts link, etc.), then please post a message to that effect on the Site Problems thread,
http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread....3857#post93857 (http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?p=93857#post93857)
and it will be taken care of.

[SirRobertAnderson]

I can't use the new message function, Tim.

[Big Jon]

I have both of those problems.

[admin tim]

Okay, gents, you should now be good to go.

[Big Jon]

Well it now looks hideous, but ah well!

[John Savage]

I don't have the new message link.

[Colin Roberts]

ATTENTION:

If you have a problem with your menu options (e.g., cannot log out, cannot see new messages link, etc.), then please post a message to that effect on the Site Problems thread,
http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread....3857#post93857 (http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?p=93857#post93857)
and it will be taken care of.

What Menu Options?

[admin tim]

Both of you should now be fixed. Refresh and see.

[Colin Roberts]

What Menu Options?

I've got them now! Looks Great!

[How Brown]

Keep at it Tim....I smell a pay increase to uh...5 bob...by next month.

Good going.






Bob Anderson, Bob McLaughlin, Bob Hinton, Bob Linford and Bob D'Onston ...

[Stan Reid]

I haven't tried to log out but I can't see the new messages link.

[admin tim]

Refresh and try it now.

[Stan Reid]

GOT IT! Thanks Tim.:rockon:

[Debra Arif]

I have no log/out menu options

[Magpie]

Hi Tim.

I got nothing :(

[How Brown]

Bump Up for the two replies below


Mag, Debs...

Please bear with the situation until Tim sees your requests. If I go in and tamper with it, it might revert back to the way it was. Thats what happened last night and I got "stuck" in Tom Wescott's screen name for a while until Tim signed me out from his computer. It affected everyone.

[Caroline Morris]

I've still only got the map at the top - no options etc.

Not that I use them a lot, just letting Tim know.

Love,

Caz
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[String]

Add me to the not working properly list.

[Raven]

Hi Guys, I don't have the new post link either :wave:

[John Savage]

Everything working fine now - thanks guys.

[Mike Covell]

I still don't have a life. :doh:

[Chris G.]

Hi Guys, I don't have the new post link either :wave:

Don't we have to use this for the time being?

http://jtrforums.com/search.php?do=getnew

[Debra Arif]

Don't we have to use this for the time being?

http://jtrforums.com/search.php?do=getnew

Yes, Chris, but you have to post here if you want to get the new skin from Tim and get refreshed and renewed....I'm only posting again so I'm not at the back of the queue! :)

[Chris G.]

Yes, Chris, but you have to post here if you want to get the new skin from Tim and get refreshed and renewed....I'm only posting again so I'm not at the back of the queue! :)

Getting a "new skin" sounds kind of radical. :rolleyes:

C

[admin tim]

OK, everyone who has posted in here should now be re-enabled. REFRESH if you have been logged on while I was doing the fix.

If you didn't see my notice post on the subject, here it is again:

There are two 'skins' to choose from on the site, these being default and silver blue. The problem everyone is having is that the silver blue skin has become corrupted due to the recent software upgrade and crash, and it is not showing or permitting all functions. The default skin is apparently OK.

If you had selected the silver blue skin, it must be changed to the default skin to be fully functional, and I will have to do the changing. Please notify me of such as directed per the Announcement and other posts, and I will convert you.

If you had the default skin, DO NOT convert to silver blue.

The silver blue skin will be abandoned.

[Caroline Morris]

Thanks Tim!

I'm sorted.

Love,

Caz
X

[Debra Arif]

Thanks Tim

[String]

Job done, thanks.

[Scott Nelson]

Time Reveals All

--sorry, test

[How Brown]

Dear Dr. Timblety...

You may remember I was the one asking for advice for the severe gleet on his back ...well, now its on my forehead...

Any suggestions ?

[Mags]

I can log in and out but I can't see the new messages link. :yield:

[How Brown]

Messages,schmessages....Mags, I gots the gleet !:help:

[admin tim]

Mags be fixed. Refresh and see,

You may remember I was the one asking for advice for the severe gleet on his back ...well, now its on my forehead...

Any suggestions ?

Make an appointment through my office and I'll refer you to a proctologist who specializes in correction of rectocranial inversions. I can tell you, however, that you won't pay through the nose for this.

[Robert Linford]

Tim, I seem to be stuck in the wrong skin. NB This is not a transgender issue. I just want the old board layout back. Help!

[admin tim]

Robert be fixed. Refresh and see.

[Robert Linford]

Hey, Tim waves his wand and a transformation occurs.

Thanks Tim!

[Simon Wood]

Help! I'm a prisoner within JtR Forums. I can't log out. Also there's no New Posts function.

Regards,

Simon

[How Brown]

Sorry about this Simon.

Wake up Tim !!!:banghead:

Simon is on the verge of what happened to Blotchy Pants Williams ( seen sidewalk surfing after his third sixpack)

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac287/HowieNina/Photo%20Thanksgiving/LONDON20004.jpg

[Robert Linford]

So now we know : Gareth has a bollard collection at home.

[admin tim]

Simon be fixed.

[Stephen Thomas]

Sorry about this Simon.

Wake up Tim !!!:banghead:

Simon is on the verge of what happened to Blotchy Pants Williams ( seen sidewalk surfing after his third sixpack)

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac287/HowieNina/Photo%20Thanksgiving/LONDON20004.jpg

What the...

[Simon Wood]

Thank you, Tim.

[JTRSickert]

All right! The site is 100% back up. Oh, happy days!!

[SirRobertAnderson]

Actually, this was Sam's effort to get down and bougie .


Sorry about this Simon.

Wake up Tim !!!:banghead:

Simon is on the verge of what happened to Blotchy Pants Williams ( seen sidewalk surfing after his third sixpack)

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac287/HowieNina/Photo%20Thanksgiving/LONDON20004.jpg

[How Brown]

Bob:

John Bennett looks like he's countin Sluggin Sammy Flynn out for the count.

[Nemo]

I think it is a big limitation for visitors and guests to this site if they cannot easily do a text search of past threads

When a guest or member who is not logged in tries to do a search, it cannot be completed because the word doesn't appear that you have to type in to prove you are not a robot / spammer

Is that how it's supposed to be?

(is it my pop-up blocker or something?)

[admin tim]

It looks to be another casualty of the recent upgrade and crash.

I disabled that verification function for the moment - try it now and see if it is better for searching.

[Nemo]

Nice 1 Tim!

You're a star

It works great

[Simon Wood]

Hi Admin,

I've just posted on the Victorian London's Finest thread and my username has been truncated to Simon and my number of posts reduced to 2.

But this post is hunky-dory.

Regards,

Simon

[admin tim]

Not quite the same impact as Glen or Glenda?, but it'll have to do.

I find that both 'Simon' and 'Simon Wood' are registered. Do you recall having an alter ego here? Some members, such as ferret and Suzi do.

So you must have just logged in as 'Simon'. Log out and then log in as 'Simon Wood' and see if it works. If not, then I will reset the password to 'Simon Wood' and we'll make it work. I suspect that both passwords must be the same or you could not have gotten on as 'Simon'.


WTM

[Simon Wood]

Hi WTM,

I tried logging in as just "Simon" with my regular password and it worked. Duh! Put it down to user incompetence somewhere in the dim distant past. So rather than me changing my name to Glenda could you please delete my "Simon" account?

Many thanks.

Regards,

Simon Wood

[admin tim]

Simon be gone.

[R.J.Palmer]

I don't visit the Casebook.org forums much anymore, maybe 3 or 4 times a year, but this morning, on visiting, I got an alert from my anti-virus software stating that just viewing the forums could be damaging to the computer, as it contained some sort of "mailware" program...whatever that is. Has Stephen Ryder commented on this, or has anyone notice any problems? I'm not a computer geek (by design) so these things are somewhat of a mystery to me. Anyway, the alert was enough to keep me away. Ciao.

P.S. This month's edition of Fortean Times mentions McCrone & Associates...which some will recall from the Maybrick Diary debate. Evidently they can now determine if the ink on a questioned document was first applied when the paper was new, or if it was applied many years later. In other words, whether the forger merely found an appropriately old sheet of paper (or notebook) or whether the document dates to shortly after the paper (or notebook) was first made...

[Stephen Thomas]

This month's edition of Fortean Times mentions McCrone & Associates...which some will recall from the Maybrick Diary debate. Evidently they can now determine if the ink on a questioned document was first applied when the paper was new, or if it was applied many years later. In other words, whether the forger merely found an appropriately old sheet of paper (or notebook) or whether the document dates to shortly after the paper (or notebook) was first made...

Hmmmm, so for publicity for the company they'd probably test the Diary for free.

[Caroline Morris]

P.S. This month's edition of Fortean Times mentions McCrone & Associates...which some will recall from the Maybrick Diary debate. Evidently they can now determine if the ink on a questioned document was first applied when the paper was new, or if it was applied many years later. In other words, whether the forger merely found an appropriately old sheet of paper (or notebook) or whether the document dates to shortly after the paper (or notebook) was first made...


Hmmmm, so for publicity for the company they'd probably test the Diary for free.

Nice idea chaps.

Sadly, we don't know when the guard book itself was 'new'. Expert opinion on the paper dated it back as early as 1870 or as late as circa 1900. So a date of 1870 would mean that the paper was already nearly twenty years old at the very least before any 'diary' ink could have touched it. If that fits the definition of 'many years later', we'd be back to the drawing board.

Love,

Caz
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[Paul]

Nice idea chaps.

Sadly, we don't know when the guard book itself was 'new'. Expert opinion on the paper dated it back as early as 1870 or as late as circa 1900. So a date of 1870 would mean that the paper was already nearly twenty years old at the very least before any 'diary' ink could have touched it. If that fits the definition of 'many years later', we'd be back to the drawing board.

Love,

Caz
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As you say, prima facie it would not assist in the dating, but it might be worth getting further information from McCrone to see precisely what this new technique is, just in case it could be of any practical assistance in dating the diary.

[Caroline Morris]

Yep, I'm all for that if anyone fancies giving them another go.

I just hope nobody there remembers how badly the waters got muddied last time round... :whistle: (not by anyone present I hasten to add )

Love,

Caz
X

[Nemo]

The malware on Casebook may have been a "cookie" that remembers your visit, password etc

Legitimate cookies - especially "tracking cookies" are sometimes misidentified as malware

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I would have that microscopic study of any foxing type contamination of the paper would indicate something similar

ie ink over foxing - ink under foxing may give some indication of age to the writing

Wouldn't Maybrick (or otherwise) have left some sweat on the paper while writing, available for DNA testing?

I think studying and identifying when and where, in the flow of the text, the pen was dipped in the ink would be very telling, as it appears to me to indicate multiple entries in one sitting and the like which I would take as evidence of forgery

[Caroline Morris]

Hi Nemo,

The irregular fading of the ink over time (as observed throughout the diary by Alec Voller in 1995) might make it rather tricky for the layman to identify, from the facsimile in Shirley's books, the exact points where the pen was dipped in ink.

I think it's also safe to say that the writing today - irregular fading and all - is identical in appearance to how it looks in the facsimile from 1993. In short, it doesn't seem to have aged a jot since it was first brought to London - despite the odd claim to the contrary over the years, made and then repeated by people who haven't examined the thing up close even once, let alone more than once and at different times.

But maybe we should be taking this to a more appropriate thread! :censored:

Love,

Caz
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[ferret]

Actually, this was Sam's effort to get down and bougie .

Heeee that's MY pic!!!.......and there's MORE!!!!:bounce:

[JMenges]

When I am not logged in the threads are arrainged like you would normally expect them. When logged in it's backwards with the most recent posts at the top of page 1 of the thread, not the last post on the last page. So I scroll from bottom to top to read rather than the usual top to bottom. Is there a simple fix to this? Weird.

JM

[Raven]

Hi JM, User CP, Edit options, scroll down to thread display options and thread display modes. Hope this helps :)

[JMenges]

Fixed, Ali. Thanks for your awesome help.

JM

[Nemo]

I can't find the post where I said that my internet connection is lost every couple of minutes when logged into and viewing JtRForums

Though true, I seem to have located the problem, and it's not really to do with this site

It is Virgin Media's DNS servers which direct the connection / query to the correct IP address. The servers have known issues and my experience confirms it

Now that I've changed my DNS server to one that works I do not lose connection at all

I'm shortly going to give Virgin some stick as I've been trying to sort this problem for months and got very little help from Virgin who kept blaming it on my modem

Anyway, as an aside, in researching my problem I came across what is known as a "Kaminsky attack" in which a whole DNS zone is taken over by a bad guy - named after it's discoverer...