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Howard Brown
01-24-2010, 04:23 PM
What bothers me the most when I read this story aside from the hammering this bastard gave his wife is the sentence issued by the judge. Even though I run into these stories every day, I still can't get adjusted to the sentencing rendered to the convicted in cases of violence towards women and kids...and even some men... vis crimes involving property.....

Two months as opposed to the years we find doled out to people for property related thefts...some for stealing a pair of old shoes.


The Bristol Mercury and Daily Post
Saturday, September 23, 1882

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Howard Brown
02-13-2010, 09:10 AM
This guy sounds like he's one of Tim Mosley's ancestors.



Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper
Sunday, August 28, 1881

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Howard Brown
02-13-2010, 09:28 AM
Hard to stomach this one....

Reynolds's Newspaper
Sunday, November 6, 1881

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Howard Brown
02-13-2010, 09:45 AM
Here is the death which preceded this on in those very same barracks.

Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper
Sunday, March 2, 1879
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Howard Brown
02-13-2010, 10:05 AM
Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper (London, England), Sunday, September 10, 1882

One quick note....at the time of the murders in Whitechapel, in fact on the day the Mile End Vigilance Committee was launched, this kid would have been 16, pushing 17, and impervious to beatings, with a track record of violence to animals and arson attempts.

Not suggesting anything....but you never know...

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Howard Brown
02-13-2010, 10:15 AM
6 families in 6 different rooms.
I have trouble being in the same room with myself !:sad:

Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper
Sunday, September 17, 1882

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Howard Brown
02-13-2010, 10:21 AM
Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper
Sunday, September 17, 1882 ( same as previous article)

No wonder the children in the East End had a 50/50 chance of reaching the age of 4....their parents were killing them on a daily basis. This is by no means a modern phenomenon.

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Howard Brown
02-13-2010, 03:56 PM
Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper
Sunday, October 4, 1885

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Howard Brown
02-13-2010, 04:02 PM
So far I have been unable to find the previous incident mentioned in the Old Bailey archives.:noidea:

Howard Brown
02-13-2010, 04:16 PM
Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper
Sunday, January 10, 1886

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A.P. Wolf
02-13-2010, 05:10 PM
One quick note....at the time of the murders in Whitechapel, in fact on the day the Mile End Vigilance Committee was launched, this kid would have been 16, pushing 17, and impervious to beatings, with a track record of violence to animals and arson attempts.'

This is a good find, How, and a good story.
However it does strike me that in 1882 a 8 year old child would not have been allowed in court, in any form or manner, as a child under ten could not be sworn in court... so do you think the age has been confused?
With the Australian connection, I think you know what I mean.

Howard Brown
02-13-2010, 05:39 PM
...........as a child under ten could not be sworn in court --A.P.

I did not know that, A.P. and thank you for bringing that to light. We should have ( we will at some point ) some thread with British Statutes involving the do's and don't of the British Court system.

Hmmm...this makes this unnamed (What should we expect,eh?) kid a little closer to 20 at the time of the crimes....a little more hardened perhaps or possibly already in jail for some violent offense.

With all the damned crime on the streets at that time, you would think the Judge recognized the situation and did something....

....because like you, I know you've seen cases of little girls and boys getting sentenced for nicking milk....if not milk, then other property related crimes.

A.P....

The Australian connection....possibly meaning the father was a nogoodnik himself ? As in "In Australia" as a catch word for those sent packing south for a spell ?

Its very irritating to a person in looking at the light sentences for wife beating and this particular case and thinking that in time, this kid was on his way to bigger and worser things.

Howard Brown
02-20-2010, 07:51 AM
An LVP version of Lorena "Slice" Bobbitt....

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18690405-443&div=t18690405-443&terms=mutilation#highlight

Howard Brown
02-28-2010, 10:06 AM
CORRESPONDENCE .
The Pall Mall Gazette
Friday, February 25, 1887

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Howard Brown
03-07-2010, 06:10 PM
A cartoon found in an issue of Punch back in 1871...

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Howard Brown
03-07-2010, 09:02 PM
St. Paul Globe
April 21,1891
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Howard Brown
03-21-2010, 03:37 AM
The Newcastle Weekly Courant
Friday, September 7, 1888

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Howard Brown
03-21-2010, 04:06 AM
The Newcastle Weekly Courant
Friday, April 20, 1888
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Howard Brown
04-04-2010, 01:42 PM
The Climax
Richmond,Ky.
November 21,1888

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Howard Brown
04-07-2010, 07:31 PM
Lets hope he got all the tea and biscuits he asked for while in jail.
One month.
The father should have whacked this guy.

The Royal Cornwall Gazette Falmouth Packet, Cornish Weekly News, & General Advertiser
(Truro, England)
Thursday, April 13, 1893
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Howard Brown
04-08-2010, 06:37 PM
The Denver Evening Post
Monday, October 09, 1899
Page ONE
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Howard Brown
04-09-2010, 09:11 PM
The Denver Evening Post
Thursday, January 27, 1898
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Howard Brown
04-24-2010, 02:05 PM
Rocky Mountain News
Friday, July 03, 1891
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Howard Brown
04-25-2010, 04:47 PM
You can bet your ass that this headline didn't appear in any New York paper.

The Daily Picayune
Monday, April 27, 1891
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...because the murder occurred here in Newark,New Jersey...acrossadariva from New York.
Mamma Mia !

Morning Oregonian
Monday, April 27, 1891
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Howard Brown
04-26-2010, 05:02 PM
It is said...that all women from Surrey make a man's heart beat in a hurry.
Whether or not Dame Rutherford did that for you, she was certainly a great actress...

Few know that she came from a household that was in turmoil from day one.

This is from the London Times, March 6th, 1883.

The murdered Reverend Benn was her grandfather.
His killer was Dame Rutherford's father, the Reverend's son.
In and out of Broadmoor since the honeymoon night when he married the former Florence Nicholson.
Florence committed suicide in India by hanging herself from a tree when Dame Rutherford was 3 years old.

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Howard Brown
04-26-2010, 05:14 PM
Talk about repeat offenders....
The Daily Picayune
Sunday, April 26, 1891
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Howard Brown
04-27-2010, 06:29 PM
You've gotta read this one twice just to believe it....

Morning Oregonian
Friday, March 06, 1891
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Cris Malone
04-27-2010, 07:41 PM
What's that old question? "With friends like that...?"

tel
04-28-2010, 07:13 AM
The Denver Evening Post
Monday, October 09, 1899
Page ONE
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They don't make fans like they used to.

Howard Brown
04-28-2010, 04:31 PM
Or washing machines, Tel.
Remember the old kind with the two cylinders that you would have to guide through ( all the while being super careful you didn't get your fingers caught in it) ?
My grandmom got one of her hands stuck in a washer ( Don't ask me how...she was a Hungarian...so its sort of expected ) and it caused permanent damage to that dumm, er Grandmom's wrist.
I know what you're thinking. Better the hand than the tit,huh ?

tel
04-28-2010, 08:00 PM
Now there's a coincidence for ya! The forerunner of the washing machine wringers was the mangle. My mother, when she was young, managed to 'mangle' two of her fingers in one - bore the scars for the rest of her life.

Howard Brown
04-28-2010, 09:24 PM
Cool photo Tel.

Speakin' of who needs enemies when you have friends like this....

The Daily Inter Ocean
Friday, January 01, 1892
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Howard Brown
05-08-2010, 09:59 AM
From an article in a Texas periodical...in August.

Southwestern Christian Advocate
Thursday, August 01, 1889
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Howard Brown
05-08-2010, 10:18 AM
Although this sounds like something Tim Mosley would attempt...

....This guy may be....may be...related to Jon Rees...I dunno.

St. Paul Daily News
Monday, July 29, 1889
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Howard Brown
05-08-2010, 10:24 AM
...and let this be a lesson to all you blabbermouth women out there ! Harridans beware !

St. Paul Daily News
Monday, July 29, 1889


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Howard Brown
05-08-2010, 10:27 AM
I'd like to hang this bastard up...but not by the thumbs.
St. Paul Daily News
Monday, July 29, 1889


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Cris Malone
05-08-2010, 10:35 AM
An apropriate last name.

His first name should have become 'The Late John...."

tel
05-08-2010, 01:26 PM
From an article in a Texas periodical...in August.

Southwestern Christian Advocate
Thursday, August 01, 1889
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I knew it! Be careful of what you drink!

Howard Brown
05-08-2010, 01:43 PM
Tel:

The strange thing is that its claimed that ice water..in August...was responsible for those deaths. Get it ? Ice water...in August.
Its only about 105 degrees in Texas in August.

That is what you meant,wasn't it ...or did you mean something else ?

Howard Brown
05-08-2010, 01:52 PM
The Galveston Daily News
Saturday, July 20, 1889
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tel
05-08-2010, 01:52 PM
Gotta admit I missed that point How, as August is the depths of winter 'ere. But I have always maintained that that water is a dangerous substance to drink, and after learning wot fish do in it .....:sick:

Howard Brown
05-08-2010, 02:28 PM
Tel:

Thats what I thought...because August out in the Outback is the opposite of what it is in the US. You could fry an eel on a hot Texas street in August.
You could.
I wouldn't touch those damned things.

Howard Brown
05-08-2010, 02:31 PM
The Galveston Daily News
Thursday, July 18, 1889
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Cris Malone
05-08-2010, 06:00 PM
Wonder what ethnicity the writer was ?
"slungshot" ?

tel
05-08-2010, 07:54 PM
Don't think they had ethnicity back in them times - just race.

Nemo
05-09-2010, 07:12 AM
What's a "steelyard pea"?

Howard Brown
05-09-2010, 07:47 AM
Nemo:

Its probably a ball bearing. Slingshots can be lethal weapons.
Some slingshots known as wrist rockets have the impact & effect of a small caliber handgun. I've used one once or twice to shoot at rats. No success,but I've seen one hit with a volley of small stones. It ain't pretty.

tel
05-09-2010, 03:43 PM
It's a bit bigger than that How. Steelyards (pronounced 'still-yds') are an old form of beam balance. The counterweight or 'pea' can weigh anything from a pound up to several. I have a couple of sets of 'em here in my collection.

http://www.bcn.net/~gshields/KnowWarr/pages/steelyd.htm

Howard Brown
05-09-2010, 03:56 PM
Wow...no wonder the one guy shanked the other dude. Mr. Slingshot meant business if thats what he flung or slung at him.

Thanks for that Tel.;)

Howard Brown
05-23-2010, 03:25 PM
Morning Oregonian
Friday, June 26, 1891
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Howard Brown
05-30-2010, 12:42 PM
Ain't this just like a Texan ?

Morning Star ( Illinois)
September 1, 1888
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Howard Brown
05-30-2010, 01:22 PM
Dumb German domestics had their 15 minutes of fame...up until the Fall of '88.

Cleveland Plain Dealer
September 27, 1888
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Nemo
05-31-2010, 06:05 AM
Thanks for posting the pic Tel

That "slungshot" must have been more like a bolas type of arrangement ie swing that thing round your head and let the leather thong slip

With a 3lb weight that would have been quite a substantial weapon

Howard Brown
05-31-2010, 09:35 AM
Bridgeton (NJ) Evening News
November 13, 1888
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Howard Brown
05-31-2010, 10:57 AM
Macon Telegraph
November 25, 1888
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Howard Brown
05-31-2010, 04:11 PM
Cleveland Plain Dealer
August 10,1888
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Howard Brown
06-03-2010, 08:30 PM
Wheeling Register
April 29, 1890
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Howard Brown
06-04-2010, 09:24 PM
Kansas City Times
July 27,1889
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Howard Brown
06-06-2010, 10:29 AM
This sort of shuttling people with mental disorders from one city to the other was going on ( it may still be ) here in Philadelphia just a few years back.
Philadelphia used to have a lot of characters who slept over gratings ( like the one which blew air up under Marilyn Monroe's dress in that film, Bus Stop..ooh...oy...vey... ) in the city...but ahem, a lot of them disappeared into other states accidentally on purpose.

No wonder Detroit is in so much trouble...its loaded with the ancestors of crazy Canadians !:offinhead:

Omaha Daily Bee
December 28, 1888
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Howard Brown
06-06-2010, 11:25 AM
This one is right up my alley...boy, would I have loved to see this one or been in it. Whoopin' and a'hollerin' and shootin' chandeliers and wrasslin' and..okay I'll shut up. These women in Wyoming were my kinda ladies..

One question........
I wonder if Mrs. Lewis stayed with her husband after this monumental asskicking.

Sacremento Daily Record
July 19, 1889
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Stephen Thomas
06-06-2010, 12:00 PM
And they say Spitalfields was bad. The Wild West indeed. Good on those women I say.

Thank for that, Howard

Howard Brown
06-20-2010, 06:20 PM
Cleveland Plain Dealer
November 28,1909
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Howard Brown
06-24-2010, 08:08 PM
From an Adelaide, Australia ( The Advertiser) newspaper dated April 9,1910.....

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Howard Brown
06-29-2010, 09:12 PM
San Jose Evening News
January 3, 1889
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Howard Brown
07-09-2010, 08:35 PM
Philadelphia Inquirer
December 1, 1888
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Howard Brown
07-11-2010, 07:55 AM
The Belfast News-Letter
Tuesday, October 9, 1888
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Howard Brown
07-14-2010, 07:29 PM
Excuse me....is there some sort of tournament for falling from great heights ?

Look at where they claim this poor guy "broke the record" for falling that distance.

The Milwaukee Sentinel
Sunday, November 15, 1891
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Howard Brown
07-15-2010, 02:47 PM
I get the same way when someone puts Monty Python on....I reach for the Winchester pump or straight razor myself.

Daily Arkansas Gazette
Little Rock, Arkansas
Thursday, April 20, 1871
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Howard Brown
07-20-2010, 04:25 PM
Fair Trade
London
September 28,1888
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Howard Brown
08-21-2010, 06:55 PM
I hope this putz spent some quality time in the slammer....

The Graphic
February 21, 1891
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Cris Malone
08-21-2010, 09:24 PM
To 'supply the bodily wants of the delinquent.'
They should have kept a bucket of corn cobs around (like we do here in Tennessee) for that purpose. All you need is 2 red ones and one white one. You use a red one; then use a white one to see if you need the other red one.

Howard Brown
09-06-2010, 05:24 PM
Morning Post
September 10,1888
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Howard Brown
09-06-2010, 06:11 PM
A letter to the editor regarding the treatment the woman faced in the previous post.

Morning Post
September 18,1888
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Dave James
09-07-2010, 06:20 AM
Hi all,

Thought this one might interest you.


At Marlborough-street, on Wednesday, a man convicted of a brutal and unprovoked attack on a respectable woman was fined forty shillings, with the alternative of twenty-one days' imprisonment; at Woolwich, a man convicted of gross cruelty to a cat was sentenced to twenty-one days' hard labour, without the option of a fine.
Evening News 19 October 1888

What can you say?

Dave

Robert Linford
09-07-2010, 10:36 AM
I say "miaoww." I'm better off as a cat.:laugh:

Howard Brown
09-07-2010, 04:17 PM
Thanks for that Dave.

Even though I knew that the punishment given to men who committed crimes against women back in the LVP (Not just Britain,either) was in many cases not dispensed fairly...that still didn't prepare me as I read the articles which covered those sort of cases.

Dave James
09-08-2010, 08:22 AM
Hi How, All,

This may confirm your feelings as expressed in your last post.


Reading press reports of the time, it is astounding how many items dealt with acts of violence against women and the reaction against it, at least in the middle classes, led by leading social reformers of the day, as this editorial in “The Gazette”, dated 2nd October, in the middle of the Ripper's reign of terror, illustrates:
“Mrs. Fenwick Miller's letter in the Daily News is clever and timely. As long as Sir Peter Edlin deems it the first duty of a judge to condemn men who commit brutal outrages on women to merely nominal punishment, it is idle to expect that the ruffianly fraternity will regard women as other than fair game. Mrs. Miller's letter suggests yet another theory of the murders-to wit, that the social scientologist, to whom we attributed them some time ago, wished to bring forcibly before the public mind, the natural corollary of the impunity with which the maiming of women is regarded by three magistrates and judges. Week by week and month by month women are kicked, beaten, jumped on till they are crushed, chopped, stabbed, seamed with vitriol, bitten, eviscerated with red-hot pokers, and deliberately set on fire - and this sort of outrage, if the woman dies, is called 'manslaughter'; if she lives it is 'common assault'. Then arose the sociologist who wishes to carry the experiment one step further, and these murders are the result.'

All the best
Dave

Howard Brown
09-08-2010, 04:26 PM
Thanks for providing that article,Dave.

Coincidentally, while looking for Mackenzie stories in the Morning Post,I came across this one involving the judge mentioned in your post. Seems this young lad who was possibly influenced by another more well known (assumed letter writer, that is...) letter writer committed a crime worthy of the judge's ire.

Morning Post
February 14, 1891
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Dave James
09-09-2010, 04:22 AM
Hi All,

Here's the main man:

http://www.rubylane.com/item/559027-0001152/Vanity-Fair-Spy-Print-Legal

Dave

Howard Brown
09-18-2010, 08:24 PM
When was the last time anyone saw an ad purporting to have a cure for syphilis and two columns over find an ad for some delicious black cherry Jello ? Huh ? A week ? Two weeks ?

Seattle Daily Times
March 23, 1903
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Howard Brown
09-25-2010, 08:56 PM
This is precisely the sort of club I would try to establish if I could....I admire the genius behind this novel idea. A drinking club for women only...and me and me alone, as the bartender/owner/all around guy when the ladies got into the mood for more than strong drink.;)

Pall Mall Gazette
October 31,1890
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Howard Brown
10-03-2010, 12:26 PM
Finally ! An article which contains a story which lives up to the name of the thread

Trewman's Exeter Flying Post or Plymouth and Cornish Advertiser
Exeter
February 6, 1889
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Howard Brown
10-06-2010, 04:30 PM
A real slice of life article...17 of them in fact

This woman admirably fought off this coward and led by Inspector Reid, he was nailed.


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March 3rd, 1889
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Howard Brown
10-06-2010, 04:38 PM
Birmingham Daily Post
March 4, 1889
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Howard Brown
10-07-2010, 07:03 PM
.....I meant Robert Linford. Sorry about that !

Reynolds's Newspaper
April 7, 1889
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Cris Malone
10-07-2010, 07:21 PM
'No cause has been assigned for the disguise'... Really? How about Mary Mudge liked packing fudge... or maybe he/she was waiting for Mary the hairdresser to get back from Bremen... a WM suspect, mind you... and my favorite.

Howard Brown
10-07-2010, 07:28 PM
I don't mean to bust yer bubble, Cris...but "Mary" the transtesticle hairdresser has been "inned".

In 2001, Jan Bondeson wrote an article which appeared in Ripperologist ( Issue 37, 2001) which demonstrated that Mary was the surname of Theophil Mary....

No evidence exists in regard to whether he dressed up real pretty like,like a girl..or was gay.

Caroline Morris
10-08-2010, 01:13 PM
Finally ! An article which contains a story which lives up to the name of the thread

Trewman's Exeter Flying Post or Plymouth and Cornish Advertiser
Exeter
February 6, 1889
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Hi Howie,

Do you suppose this was the same Eliza Cooper who knew Annie Chapman?

Love,

Caz
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Howard Brown
10-08-2010, 07:21 PM
Caz:

Before I dropped off last night, I meant to ask that same question because I also forgot to do that Sunday night..

I don't know for sure...

By the way...have you seen the Connelly which I located ( Debra Arif knows about it)...in a story in which this Connelly thought Eddowes was her sister and went to see her body ?

Thats the thread I've been trying to remember to go back to !

I wonder if that was Pearly Poll.

Howard Brown
10-12-2010, 04:50 PM
THE FLEET AT SHITHEAD .
The Star (Saint Peter Port, England), Tuesday, August 06, 1889
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Howard Brown
10-16-2010, 05:08 PM
North-Eastern Daily Gazette
September 14, 1889
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Howard Brown
10-16-2010, 06:54 PM
Proof not all those living on Cleveland Street were happy,carefree...or gay.

Reynolds's Newspaper
September 15, 1889
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Howard Brown
10-17-2010, 10:09 AM
I've been dosing Nina's food with these little babies...

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SPE
10-17-2010, 10:58 AM
I've been dosing Nina's food with these little babies...

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I never could locate the Chronicles of Crime, but found this one along the way - perhaps it casts some light on nutrition -
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Howard Brown
10-19-2010, 10:23 AM
Thanks SPE for the Dutton-related information.

Birmingham Daily Post
September 26, 1889
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Howard Brown
10-19-2010, 05:22 PM
Ha ha !! Zola bitchin' about interruptions to his heavy workload and loooong hours...( 4 1/2 ).

Pall Mall Gazette
October 2,1889
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Howard Brown
10-19-2010, 08:06 PM
The last black eye this poor woman would ever recieve....

Manchester Times
Saturday, October 5, 1889
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Howard Brown
10-24-2010, 11:55 AM
North-Eastern Daily Gazette
November 05, 1889
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Howard Brown
10-25-2010, 08:14 PM
You've seen one, you've seen 'em all.

The first story might be the exception to that old maxim.

Manchester Times
November 23, 1889
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Howard Brown
10-27-2010, 07:56 PM
A very sad slice of life story...


Daily News
December 7, 1889
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Chris G.
10-28-2010, 10:34 AM
Hi Howard

Indeed a very sad story of suicide by a broken man.

An aside on the British Bulldog revolver. There is a book called The British Bulldog Revolver; The Forgotten Gun that Really Won the West (http://www.amazon.com/British-Bulldog-Revolver-Forgotten-Really/dp/193146426X) by firearms expert George Layman. The publisher blurb notes:

"Generations of Hollywood Westerns have led us to believe that the Colt Single Action Army was the Gun That Won the West. But could the real honors belong to an inexpensive, yet powerful pocket revolver that is only now beginning to be appreciated by historians and collectors? In this long-awaited new collectors guide, noted author George Layman tells us the true story behind these diminutive, yet devastating, weapons. Perhaps ten times as popular as the Colt and Smith & Wesson combined, British Bull Dog revolvers were first introduced by Philip Webley & Co., but were soon duplicated by the American gun manufacturing giant Forehand & Wadsworth and countless Belgian copyists. Far from being uninteresting and identical, these pistols exist today in almost limitless variety. Learn how to identify rarities and valuable variations, including prices that should be expected for each type. Also, learn which models were carried most in the West by riverboat gamblers, soiled doves and gold miners. Even Billy the Kid might have packed one! So while the gun may have British in its name, the story is all American - and one that has remained untold until now."

Chris

Howard Brown
10-28-2010, 04:48 PM
Jackson's Oxford Journal
December 21, 1889
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Howard Brown
10-30-2010, 01:48 PM
Illustrated Police News
February 15, 1890
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Howard Brown
10-30-2010, 01:58 PM
Aberdeen Weekly Journal
February 27, 1890
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Howard Brown
11-01-2010, 08:14 PM
Dreadful slice this one...

Newcastle Weekly Courant
April 5, 1890
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Howard Brown
11-04-2010, 04:49 PM
I think every woman should have her head cut off at least once.
90 percent of the time, they run around like it is...:)..so I'd like to see whether they act the same when they have a good excuse.

Ipswich Journal
August 16, 1890
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Howard Brown
11-06-2010, 12:52 PM
This man couldn't be punished sufficiently, in my book.

While the neighborhood was bracing for a potential reappearance of the Ripper ( See the 1890 In The News Thread)....this event took place.


Aberdeen Weekly Journal
October 13, 1890
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Roy Corduroy
11-06-2010, 01:32 PM
8453

:sick: 1902 Medical Directory

Howard Brown
11-07-2010, 09:45 AM
Birmingham Daily Post
November 18, 1890
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Howard Brown
11-07-2010, 09:53 AM
Dundee Courier & Argus
November 21, 1890
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Howard Brown
11-08-2010, 11:24 AM
90 tons of bad,smelly herring....

Why that's about 6 or 7 Caz Morris's by my calculation.:clap2:
Say it ain't so Joe...

Freeman's Journal and Daily Commercial Advertiser
February 7, 1891
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Caroline Morris
11-12-2010, 01:39 PM
I may not be as tiny as I used to be, Howie, but 'condemned as unfit for human food'? Now that's just being fussy. :fish:

Howard Brown
11-12-2010, 05:06 PM
Whoops ! :brick:

Just kidding,gorgeous. You know that I think you're still a beauty...maybe not as good looking or humble as me....but you still have the goods...and always will.

Whatta waste of fish,eh Caz ?
Over here, back around 35 years ago or so, they used to sell herring in bags in taprooms ( like peanuts or potato chips..or Slim Jims). They were called "Blind Robins".
Salt content in those sumbitches could put you in a coma ( Back then, I didn't have high blood pressure ) if you had high blood pressure.

Howard Brown
11-12-2010, 08:13 PM
Birmingham Daily Post
April 29, 1891
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Howard Brown
11-13-2010, 12:52 PM
Western Mail
June 27, 1891
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Dave James
11-13-2010, 06:29 PM
Posters may be aware of the sad story of Mrs Sodeaux who committed suicide as a result of the JtR murders in her neighbourhood, but are you aware of the follow up? Yet another unacknowledged victim of Jack!!!!


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Howard Brown
11-13-2010, 06:31 PM
Dear Dave:

Yes sir, we have that article on the boards...but thanks very much for bringing it up once more. A very sad tale indeed.
:tea:

Howard Brown
11-18-2010, 05:39 PM
Here's another awful tale..

Pall Mall Gazette Saturday, March 5, 1892
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Howard Brown
11-18-2010, 05:46 PM
An excerpt from a larger article on colliers and British mining.

Daily News Tuesday, March 8, 1892
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Howard Brown
11-18-2010, 06:01 PM
The Hampshire Advertiser Wednesday, March 09, 1892
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Howard Brown
11-20-2010, 05:56 PM
Vilnius ( Vilna ) is the capital of Lithuania.


Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper Sunday, May 8, 1892
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Howard Brown
11-21-2010, 01:16 PM
I say toe-may-to..you say to-mah-to
You say its murder, I say bravissimo !

Manchester Times Friday, July 1, 1892
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Howard Brown
11-21-2010, 02:41 PM
Sad trio of crimes involving brothers or friends...

Bristol Mercury and Daily Post Saturday, September 3, 1892
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Howard Brown
11-24-2010, 06:58 PM
500 lashes and 800 lashes ?
Yeah.... Right.:crazy:


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Howard Brown
11-27-2010, 08:20 AM
Aberdeen Weekly Journal Saturday, August 26, 1893

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Howard Brown
11-27-2010, 02:30 PM
Trewman's Exeter Flying Post or Plymouth and Cornish Advertiser Saturday, February 10, 1894

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Howard Brown
11-29-2010, 07:30 PM
Belfast News-Letter Saturday, December 22, 1894


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Howard Brown
12-03-2010, 06:36 PM
Ipswich Journal Saturday, March 28, 1896

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Howard Brown
12-05-2010, 09:51 AM
The Illustrated Police News Saturday, January 14, 1899

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Howard Brown
12-05-2010, 09:56 AM
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Howard Brown
12-05-2010, 10:43 AM
Just in case any of you guys couldn't locate a good place to purchase that special gift for yourself this Yule season.
Fret not,ladies....for I'm fixing to get walloped by whatshername with the ever-present rolling pin ( She carries it in a holster like a .44 Magnum).

Good old Lloyd's huh ?
Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper Sunday, January 22, 1899

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Howard Brown
12-05-2010, 12:01 PM
The word is ostentatiousness.
Imagine what this money could have done in the right hands..
...like mine.

ODDS AND ENDS .
Reynolds's Newspaper Sunday, April 2, 1899

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Howard Brown
12-05-2010, 04:49 PM
The word is over-sensitive.

Bristol Mercury and Daily Post Tuesday, October 10, 1899


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Howard Brown
12-12-2010, 09:01 AM
Admit it !!
Raise your hand if you ,yourself, have never considered leaping on top of a cornet player.
I thought so.


Bristol Mercury and Daily Post
Thursday, August 23, 1888
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Howard Brown
12-22-2010, 05:00 PM
Rockford Daily Gazette
October 1,1888
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Howard Brown
01-04-2011, 08:01 PM
Who handles your tomatoes at the local supermarket ?

Augusta Chronicle
June 25, 1929
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Howard Brown
01-09-2011, 02:54 PM
Philadelphia does not have a 14th Street. Broad Street rests between 13th and 15th. Broad Street could be considered 14th Street in this sense.
At the intersection of Broad & Market Streets sits the Philadelphia City Hall.

This ad mentions the 1400 block of Market Street...which is City Hall.
Go figger....

Bucks County (Pa) Gazette
April 30, 1891
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Howard Brown
01-26-2011, 06:55 PM
I hope this guy got some justice in prison because he didn't in this court case.
I also wonder whether the wife took him back....

Brief News & Opinion (London)
March 5,1881


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Howard Brown
01-26-2011, 07:13 PM
Same with this putz too...

Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper
December 11,1881
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Howard Brown
01-29-2011, 04:14 PM
Dreadful story....Nina found it..

Huddersfield Daily Chronicle
December 14, 1893
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Howard Brown
01-29-2011, 08:12 PM
The Mercury
April 14,1888
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Howard Brown
01-29-2011, 08:25 PM
Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper
May 6, 1888
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Howard Brown
02-08-2011, 08:12 PM
Hampshire Telegraph and Naval Chronicle
Portsmouth
December 8, 1900
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Howard Brown
02-11-2011, 07:55 PM
What actions by others could this eight year have been exposed to do this sort of thing ? Not only did he gut his brother, but it wasn't the first time he tried. Sibling jealousy to the nth degree......

Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper
August 5, 1888
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Howard Brown
02-11-2011, 08:18 PM
Robert Linford, for example, is a lunatic, but he is bereft of pedigree....sad to say.

The Echo
September 5, 1888
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Howard Brown
03-12-2011, 03:24 PM
There's one surefire way of determining one's gender.
Ask 'em to put out a campfire by peeing on it...and wait.

Daily Mail
September 21,1904
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Howard Brown
03-12-2011, 04:12 PM
Hackney Express
March 28,1908
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Howard Brown
04-08-2011, 09:26 PM
Western Mail
September 3, 1888
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Howard Brown
04-22-2011, 08:43 PM
Predating the atrocity in Bradford by some 2 1/2 months..

Aberdeen Weekly Journal
September 13,1888
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Howard Brown
05-05-2011, 07:28 PM
The Echo
November 17,1888
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Howard Brown
05-07-2011, 08:40 AM
The Echo
November 21,1888
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Howard Brown
05-07-2011, 02:37 PM
Philadelphia Inquirer
February 16, 1899
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Howard Brown
05-13-2011, 07:15 PM
Aberdeen Weekly Journal
December 18, 1888
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Howard Brown
05-13-2011, 07:46 PM
They should have stuck a burning briquette up this guy's ass.
Several times.

Aberdeen Weekly Journal
December 29, 1888
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Howard Brown
05-14-2011, 08:00 AM
Notice the objections made by the representative of the school board.
You would think that at an event such as the inquest into the death of a child who had been hit on the head by a teacher, that this rep would have at least waited a day or so before arguing against rules prohibiting the head smacks teachers issued to students.

Roderick MacDonald presided.

The Standard
January 7, 1892
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Howard Brown
05-14-2011, 01:04 PM
The Standard
August 16,1888
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Howard Brown
05-19-2011, 05:17 PM
Brutal story...

Leeds Mercury
September 17, 1888
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Howard Brown
05-23-2011, 07:06 PM
Leeds Mercury
November 10,1888
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Howard Brown
05-25-2011, 08:36 PM
The tragedy is that these two were fed.
Follow up of preceding article.

Leeds Mercury
December 15, 1888
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Howard Brown
05-29-2011, 09:37 AM
Birmingham Daily Post
September 26, 1888
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Howard Brown
05-31-2011, 03:55 PM
Remember when we were kids riding in a car with grown ups, with our head or hands sticking out of the rear window , and either Mom or Dad would say to us "Get your head/ hands inside the car ! There was some guy who once had his head smashed into the side of a truck/car/bus/take your pick !!"

Well...I found that guy....

Birmingham Daily Post
October 19, 1888
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Howard Brown
05-31-2011, 04:36 PM
Birmingham Daily Post
October 22, 1888
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Howard Brown
05-31-2011, 05:59 PM
Hang the sumbitch !

Birmingham Daily Post
October 30,1888
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Howard Brown
06-04-2011, 10:50 AM
Anyone who adulterates beer should be shot...we know this without having to elaborate.

However...what do you do to someone who adulterates lard ?

Liverpool Mercury
June 7, 1888
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Howard Brown
06-04-2011, 11:30 AM
Anyone who adulterates beer should be shot...anyone who adulterates lard should have to walk around covered in it for a month....and anyone who attempts to sell bad meat should be forced to sample it...and then shot.

The balls on this guy for trying to pass of this putrid fare...140 pounds of it...and the shockingly low fine for trying to pass it off. No doubt this slimebag attempted to pawn off bad meat in the future.

Liverpool Mercury
August 24, 1888
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Howard Brown
06-15-2011, 05:56 PM
Some people can't even make an exit without some snags.

Liverpool Mercury
November 9, 1888
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Howard Brown
06-17-2011, 08:26 PM
Berrow's Worcester Journal
September 7, 1889
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Howard Brown
06-18-2011, 01:59 PM
Berrows Worcester Journal
February 9, 1889
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Howard Brown
06-18-2011, 07:09 PM
Berrows Worcester Journal
August 17, 1889
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Howard Brown
06-18-2011, 07:38 PM
Berrow's Worcester Journal
September 28,1889
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Howard Brown
06-22-2011, 05:24 PM
Blackburn Standard
September 22,1888
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Howard Brown
06-25-2011, 12:56 PM
Wonder whether this Farquharson is related to that one...

Manchester Times
October 20, 1888
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Howard Brown
06-25-2011, 07:59 PM
This hurts merely reading about it.

Huddersfield Daily Chronicle
August 10,1888
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Howard Brown
06-25-2011, 08:25 PM
Another awful eye-related story.
Ever have a serious eye injury ? Believe me, it ain't no walk in the park.

Huddersfield Daily Chronicle
September 5, 1888
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Howard Brown
07-10-2011, 08:37 AM
Illustrated Police News
September 28, 1889
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Howard Brown
07-10-2011, 09:53 AM
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Howard Brown
07-10-2011, 10:09 AM
IPN
June 8, 1867
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Howard Brown
07-14-2011, 07:12 PM
Illustrated Police News
June 7, 1890
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Howard Brown
07-18-2011, 05:54 PM
Illustrated Police News
January 9, 1892
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Howard Brown
07-26-2011, 06:51 PM
Illustrated Police News
August 6, 1892
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Howard Brown
07-26-2011, 07:33 PM
Illustrated Police News
August 13, 1892
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Howard Brown
07-28-2011, 09:27 AM
This is what they're still like in Texas....

Illustrated Police News
September 24, 1892
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Howard Brown
07-29-2011, 04:50 AM
From an issue of the IPN in 1892.

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Howard Brown
08-03-2011, 06:11 PM
A cover from the Illustrated Police News....


IPN
Nov. 26, 1892
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Howard Brown
08-03-2011, 07:57 PM
IPN
December 3, 1892
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Robert Linford
08-03-2011, 08:11 PM
Times, Nov 24th 1898

Howard Brown
08-06-2011, 07:13 PM
Illustrated Police News
January 21, 1893
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Howard Brown
08-11-2011, 06:36 PM
IPN
September 2, 1893
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Howard Brown
08-18-2011, 06:28 PM
You could add..."Never bet on a horse named Gluefoot.."

Illustrated Police News
May 12, 1894
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Howard Brown
08-20-2011, 10:01 AM
With the surname "George", its not all that unusual....:sad:

IPN
July 28,1894
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Howard Brown
08-20-2011, 11:02 AM
IPN
August 11, 1894
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Howard Brown
08-20-2011, 07:51 PM
IPN
September 29, 1894
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Howard Brown
08-20-2011, 07:59 PM
Another contemporary quirk one comes across in the LVP papers were the number of stories featuring window-breakers, male and female.
You don't see this sort of character much anymore;)

IPN
October 6, 1894
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Howard Brown
08-20-2011, 08:45 PM
...another one from the IPN on November 3rd, 1894 :

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Howard Brown
08-21-2011, 09:41 AM
IPN
November 10, 1894
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Howard Brown
08-21-2011, 10:34 AM
IPN
November 17, 1894
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Howard Brown
08-21-2011, 11:17 AM
IPN
December 1, 1894
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Howard Brown
08-21-2011, 12:02 PM
IPN
December 15, 1894
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Howard Brown
08-21-2011, 12:26 PM
IPN
December 22, 1894
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Howard Brown
08-21-2011, 07:32 PM
IPN
January 12, 1895
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Howard Brown
08-21-2011, 07:32 PM
IPN
January 12, 1895
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Howard Brown
08-23-2011, 06:25 PM
Steel ?

IPN
February 9, 1895
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Howard Brown
08-23-2011, 06:44 PM
Every word is true....

Liverpool Mercury
February 5, 1875
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Howard Brown
08-23-2011, 06:58 PM
'Tis no big deal.
Once,one of Robert's Linford's jokes put me out for a fortnight.

IPN
March 9, 1895
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Howard Brown
08-26-2011, 05:53 PM
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Howard Brown
08-27-2011, 01:21 PM
IPN
September 21, 1895
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Howard Brown
08-27-2011, 01:42 PM
IPN
September 28, 1895
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Howard Brown
08-27-2011, 05:04 PM
Here's another one o' those " Oh man, I don't believe this !" articles.

Just today, I came across an article where some local roughneck beat a constable up and got something like a month in the clink.

Take a gander at this one.

The perp is in his 60's... six weeks in jail...with hard labor !

IPN
November 23, 1895
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Howard Brown
09-02-2011, 10:06 PM
IPN
May 23, 1896
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Howard Brown
09-03-2011, 12:42 PM
IPN
June 6, 1896
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Howard Brown
09-04-2011, 09:28 AM
IPN
October 3, 1896
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Howard Brown
09-04-2011, 05:58 PM
IPN
October 24, 1896
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Howard Brown
09-04-2011, 06:21 PM
IPN
October 31, 1896
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Howard Brown
09-05-2011, 04:32 PM
IPN
November 17,1896
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Howard Brown
09-05-2011, 04:46 PM
IPN
November 21,1896
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Howard Brown
09-05-2011, 04:53 PM
I believe this is the first depiction of an automobile in the IPN.

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Howard Brown
09-05-2011, 08:02 PM
The Standard
March 21, 1899
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Howard Brown
09-09-2011, 09:25 PM
IPN
January 23, 1897
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Howard Brown
09-12-2011, 06:52 PM
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Howard Brown
09-12-2011, 07:27 PM
I believe String is blood kin to the Julius family...

Some police force ! The Sarge needed assistance taking a guy in high heels down !!!

IPN
April 24, 1897
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Howard Brown
09-12-2011, 07:35 PM
Question is...what do the cats eat ?

IPN
April 24, 1897
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Howard Brown
09-13-2011, 07:17 PM
IPN
May 8, 1897
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Howard Brown
09-18-2011, 06:23 PM
IPN
July 31, 1897
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Howard Brown
09-25-2011, 09:06 AM
.....or at least a butt.

Reynolds's Newspapers
September 23, 1888
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Howard Brown
11-07-2011, 01:54 PM
...e-i, e-i, oh watch yer head, yer Worship !

Not much in the British press on November 8th....

The Standard
November 8, 1888
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Stephen Thomas
11-07-2011, 03:13 PM
Now here's an interesting Victorian fellow, Howard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_boy_Jones

Howard Brown
11-07-2011, 04:13 PM
I remember that fellow,Stephen.
He was mentioned in an article that was related to Sir Robert Anderson, that Simon Wood "enhanced" to disparage SRA.

Stephen Thomas
11-07-2011, 05:24 PM
I remember that fellow,Stephen.
He was mentioned in an article that was related to Sir Robert Anderson, that Simon Wood "enhanced" to disparage SRA.

Strong stuff, Howard, on a jokey and sort of throwaway thread like this.

What was all that about?

Howard Brown
11-07-2011, 05:27 PM
Stephen:

Simon's article on SRA was just as jokey...on a not-so-jokey-subject matter.

Howard Brown
11-24-2011, 12:10 PM
Boston Herald
April 21, 1860
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Howard Brown
01-14-2012, 03:30 PM
Aberdeen Weekly Journal
January 29, 1889
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Howard Brown
01-19-2012, 05:29 PM
Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper
March 24, 1889
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Howard Brown
02-06-2012, 10:37 AM
Let this be a lesson to all of youse who would steal your fellow man's lunch.

Kalamazoo Gazette
March 15, 1892
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Howard Brown
02-14-2012, 06:36 PM
Birmingham Daily Post
October 21, 1889
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Unlike the fellow in the previous article who coated his lunch with arsenic...its a shame that this victim didn't soak her arm in it.

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Howard Brown
02-16-2012, 07:11 PM
North Eastern Daily Gazette
November 5, 1889
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Howard Brown
02-18-2012, 07:58 AM
Mitchell (S.D.) Republican
November 22, 1889
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Howard Brown
02-19-2012, 06:23 PM
Aberdeen Weekly Journal
January 10, 1890
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Howard Brown
02-24-2012, 07:14 PM
Atchinson Daily Champion
February 11, 1890
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Howard Brown
03-14-2012, 07:36 PM
Rockford ( Ill.) Daily Gazette
June 17, 1890
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Howard Brown
03-15-2012, 07:32 PM
San Juan Islander
Friday Harbor, Washington
January 24, 1901
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Howard Brown
03-31-2012, 09:46 AM
Huntsville Gazette
September 29, 1888
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Howard Brown
03-31-2012, 09:52 AM
The Freeman
Indianapolis
November 16, 1888
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Howard Brown
04-19-2012, 06:21 PM
Ipswich Journal
August 16, 1890
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Howard Brown
04-19-2012, 07:11 PM
Evening Gazette
Sterling, Illinois
August 25, 1890
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Howard Brown
04-20-2012, 05:23 PM
Wrexham Advertiser
August 30, 1890
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Howard Brown
04-27-2012, 06:08 PM
Ft. Wayne Weekly Gazette
September 12, 1895
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Howard Brown
04-27-2012, 06:20 PM
Democratic Standard
Coshocton, Ohio
February 28, 1896
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Howard Brown
04-28-2012, 03:50 PM
Evening News
Lincoln, Neb.
April 29, 1895
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Howard Brown
05-06-2012, 07:36 AM
Look at this mindless child of motherhood....Croydon too...
Six months ?
She should have told the cops he was trying to rob her...he'd probably pick up an extra 18 months with no sweat.

Morning Post
April 9, 1888
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Howard Brown
05-06-2012, 06:25 PM
Morning Post
August 25, 1888
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