2010 Conference

[Adam Wood]

Dear all,

After the success of the Conference last October, I'm pleased to announce a one-day event taking place later this year.

The 2010 Ripper Interim Conference will take place on Saturday 25 September, at the King's Stores on Widegate Street E1.

The cost will be £50, which will include four speakers (three of which are already confirmed), along with evening entertainment, food and drink.

Deposits will be taken from next week on a first-come first-served basis, so register your interest now to ensure you receive future email notifications.

Please send an email to adamwood55@yahoo.co.uk

Details of speakers will be announced next week when the deposit opening and closing dates will be confirmed.

I look forward to seeing you again in September!

Best wishes
Adam

[Big Jon]

So who's planning on going folks?

I hope to!

[SirRobertAnderson]

I plan to, if the volcanoes cooperate !

[ferret]

Me and the cat!- when I hear back from Adam re deposit dates (!)

Suz xx:brick:

[Nemo]

Me! Though I'd appreciate some pointers to good lodgings

(That's near enough my birthday so I'll treat myself I think)

[ferret]

Got the Travelodge Liverpool St booked up!!! :-) x

PS do that it's half the price of The Ibis!!!!

[SirRobertAnderson]

Got the Travelodge Liverpool St booked up!!! :-) x

PS do that it's half the price of The Ibis!!!!

All the Kool Kids hang out at the Abyss. Rather nice breakfast I hear if you are not going to be sick into a pail from one's hangover. :puke:

[ferret]

Yeah but the Abyss is twice the price!!!!- but if you get a 10th floor smoking room gimme a shout!!!:peep::cool::peep:.......Bourbon????????

*****Cheque for full amount in the post Adam!!! It's Sunday and then Bank Holiday Monday! aaaaaaaaagh it'll be there!!!! xx

[Caroline Morris]

Me going!! :high5:

Suzi, wot's the cat wearing this season?

Love,

Caz
X

[ferret]

what would one suggest???????????.......a burkha????? heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eee:llama: xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sooooooooooooooo tempted!!! hehe what d'ya reckon?? xxxxxxxx

[ferret]

Maybe a smoking jacket a la Charles Grey in Rocky Horror???

[ferret]

7695

7696

I would go out tonight- but I haven't got a stitch to wear................ Heee:music:

Suggestions please

Dids xx

[Nemo]

I like the apron Ferret... no Baphomet?

[ferret]

It's in the rucksack silly!!!!!!:fish:

[Big Jon]

Paid my deposit, and shall probably be staying at the Liverpool Street Travelodge again!

Hopefully shall remember where it is this time, and not spend 2 hours searching for it after walking back from Brick Lane at 1am on the Friday!

[Tom_Wescott]

Hi Suzi. It might shock you to learn that I have two ferrets at home - Bubbles and Mandy, aka Mr. and Mrs. Pointyhead. I inherited them about 7 or 8 months ago from a girlfriend and have grown quite attached to them. I was curious to know if you actually have ferrets? I was shocked to learn that following dogs and cats, ferrets are the most popular pet in the USA. Paid my deposit, and shall probably be staying at the Liverpool Street Travelodge again!Where do you live, Jon? For some reason I was thinking you are American. I have the USA version conference DVD that Leahy is peddling. He gave it to me free but it's missing the last 15 min. on each disc. However, you're all over the thing!

[Jeff Leahy]

Hi Suzi. It might shock you to learn that I have two ferrets at home - Bubbles and Mandy, aka Mr. and Mrs. Pointyhead. I inherited them about 7 or 8 months ago from a girlfriend and have grown quite attached to them. I was curious to know if you actually have ferrets? I was shocked to learn that following dogs and cats, ferrets are the most popular pet in the USA. Where do you live, Jon? For some reason I was thinking you are American. I have the USA version conference DVD that Leahy is peddling. He gave it to me free but it's missing the last 15 min. on each disc. However, you're all over the thing!

Tom Wescott had a girlfriend?

The boards become more bizarre by the day :tape2:

Pirate

PS A full length NTSC version was sent to Adam Wood...They disappeared in the post..So i sent the spare copies. Once I hear from Adam I will try and get a copy sent to you Tom. xx As I need to wipe my hard drives very soon.

[Tom_Wescott]

Hi Jeff. That'd be great. Don is on me for a review of the discs for Examiner.

[Jeff Leahy]

I've just emailed Adam and will get on top of it.

Let me know your dead lines and I will try and match them. Don't know if I will have time to film this year. Rather busy at present. But if it can be arranged I will do my best.

Hopefully copies will be available at conference.

I will be there, possibly with Beggy :crutch:

Jeff

[Tom_Wescott]

You won't be able to film this year, because you're too busy, yet you plan on being there? I'm confused. That would suck if it wasn't captured on film. Assuming the line-up of speakers doesn't suck, that is. LOL. If you can get me the discs in the next month that would put it in time for issue 3, so let me know. Based on what I've seen, Begg and Hutchinson were two great talks, and the part of George's where he talks about PC Brown was eerie, and reminded me how suspicious the circumstances were surrounding that suicide.

[Jeff Leahy]

Hi Tom

I cant say more at present but there is a reason for my comment, I simply wont have edit space. And the conference is 4 hours of TV!. I will have a look at the NTSC project in the morning and see if I can burn some extra copies and post them.

Issue three ?? I’ve only seen issue one. When did two happen?

Catch you soon Jeff

[Big Jon]

Where do you live, Jon? For some reason I was thinking you are American. I have the USA version conference DVD that Leahy is peddling. He gave it to me free but it's missing the last 15 min. on each disc. However, you're all over the thing!

I'm Welsh! From the ugly lovely town (or pretty shitty city) of Swansea in South Wales.

[How Brown]

People don't know that we gave Jon money for his trip to London ( They can't use Welsh money...wampum or beads...in London) and lo and behold, some enterprising photographer took a couple of snapshots of JR in action near Batty Street...this is the stuff that didn't make Jeff's DVD.

First of all, he took the money he was supposed to spend for lodging and instead of finding a nice place to stay for the night near Sir Bob "Lights out at 7 PM" Anderson....he went straight down to Batty Street to Cacklin' Caz's Izzit Inn@ ...a rundown joint loaded with old dollymops, mentholated spirit addicts, you name it...and without taking his time or using any discretion...he dragged the first old harridan he found and handed over coin of the realm to the doorperson. Jonny joked how he made her get in touch with her feminine side. Yeah...I'll bet.
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Then !...the dunce got loaded on the old lady's port wine and went out on the street and there told the rather large crowd that had gathered that he was a human cobblestone and for people to step around him.....
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After the night in jail, JR made it to the Conference.

Don't believe me ?

Ask yourself , those of you that went, where he was from 11:00 PM Friday to 7 AM on that Saturday......

[Big Jon]

A large proportion of my time between those hours was spent walking around lost looking for the hotel with Andy Aliffe!

[ferret]

LOL! :-) x

[Jeff Leahy]

Talk about the blind leading the blind. Its amazing you ever found your way back with Aliffe as your guide...:flypig:

Anyway you'll be pleased to know Tom, that I've managed to re-conform the project and burn out an extra set of discs which are on there way to you.

I cant say that they play perfectly on my desk top. So som people might find it better to stick to the PAL copies, which have more pixels and play fine on most computers.

See how you get on.

Fantastic afternoon here in kent. Jeff:fish2:

[Chris G.]

Hi all

I won't be able to make it over for this year's one day event but trust it will go well and that everyone will have a great time. Donna and I will be saving up to attend the 2011 two-day conference hoping the event will be possible.

Cheers

Chris

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Joanna Hannigan, Chris George, & Colin Cobb at Kings Stores, London Ripper Conference, October 2009

[Donald Souden]

Jeff,

Issue three ?? I’ve only seen issue one. When did two happen?

Issue two is about locked up for delivery within the next two weeks. It will feature Tom Wescott on Charles le Grand, Part two of Roger J. Palmer's article on Inspector Andrews and Francis Tumblety, a photo exclusive from Chris Phillips, an insightful forensic essay by Stewart P. Evans, up-to-date book and CD reviews (except, ahem, that of the 2009 conference) and all our other great features.

You won't want to miss it so take this as a reminder to subscribe now. Full details at www.casebook.org/examiner (http://www.casebook.org/examiner)

Don Souden,
Editor Examiner.

[Adam Wood]

Many thanks to all who have sent in their deposits for the conference in September - I'll be emailing you shortly.

After one week half the places have gone, but as of right now there are 33 seats up for grabs!

Visit the conference website for information and to pay a deposit to secure your place:

http://www.ripperconference.com/

Best wishes
Adam

[Jeff Leahy]

Jeff,

Issue three ?? I’ve only seen issue one. When did two happen?

Issue two is about locked up for delivery within the next two weeks. It will feature Tom Wescott on Charles le Grand, Part two of Roger J. Palmer's article on Inspector Andrews and Francis Tumblety, a photo exclusive from Chris Phillips, an insightful forensic essay by Stewart P. Evans, up-to-date book and CD reviews (except, ahem, that of the 2009 conference) and all our other great features.

You won't want to miss it so take this as a reminder to subscribe now. Full details at www.casebook.org/examiner (http://www.casebook.org/examiner)

Don Souden,
Editor Examiner.

Cheers Don

I'll give it a go but as a banned casebook member I'm not certain it will work.

However I did much enjoy the last issue and made sure Paul B took a copy into hospital with him.

I have posted copies of the NTSC DVD today. And will try and make sure the next Conference is recorded, although as I explained its unlikely to be possible for me to edit this time, other projects on horizon.

Usful to know if you ever received the DVD's I sent Adam?

Yours Jeff

PS as a matter of interest is Examiner VAT registered??

[Adam Wood]

Dear all,

With the 2010 Ripper Conference just over a month away, time for a full update.

The full line up of speakers has now been confirmed, with the last addition - Trevor Bond - speaking on Frances Coles. The evening before the Conference Trevor will be hosting a fund raising Ripperology quiz in aid of the Frances Coles Memorial Appeal 2011. Details below.


PLACES AVAILABLE!
At the time of writing there are 12 places available - if you're interested in attending please visit the website (www.ripperconference.com) and sign up now. Places will be awarded on a first-come-first-served basis.


FRIDAY 24 SEPTEMBER 2010
A Ripperology Challenge pub quiz and social evening has been arranged by Trevor Bond, and will start at 7pm in the Bell pub on Middlesex Street. Entry is £2, funds are in aid of the
Frances Coles Memorial Appeal 2011.
See www.thebellpub.co.uk/contact.php for a map.


SATURDAY 25 SEPTEMBER 2010
The Conference proper starts at 10.00am on Saturday 25 September. The last scheduled event is at 5.30pm followed by an open bar until 11.30pm.


THE KING'S STORES, WIDEGATE STREET, LONDON E1
Located a two minute walk from the site of Miller's Court, The King's Stores is perfectly situated to host a Ripper Conference, sitting on the corner of Widegate Street and Sandy's Row. We have hired the pub in its entirety for the day, so that there are dedicated areas for lectures, coffee breaks and lunches, as well as a book room and coat/baggage storage area.


Running order to be confirmed, but the following speakers will be appearing:

MC COLIN COBB
JOHN BENNETT on The Doss Houses of Flower and Dean Street
GARETH WILLIAMS on Severin Klosowski
MIKE COVELL on the Ripper's links to Hull
TREVOR BOND on Frances Coles

Book Room with sales!
Ripper Raffle!
Late night entertainment!
Plus many other surprises...

THE COST OF THE ONE-DAY EVENT IS £50 PER PERSON.
We're asking delegates to book their own accommodation. .


WHAT'S INCLUDED?
* Four lectures and all other special events
* Delegate literature
* Coffee breaks, buffet lunch and hot evening meal
* Late night entertainment

WHAT'S NOT INCLUDED?
* Accommodation and breakfasts
* Bar drinks

Best wishes
Adam

www.ripperconference.com

[How Brown]

Dear Adam:

Will this event be filmed or praserved for posterity as the last one was in 2009 ?

[Jeff Leahy]

Dear Adam:

Will this event be filmed or praserved for posterity as the last one was in 2009 ?


Its on our radar!!

We are very busy at present. But I am hoping to do so...ask again in one week

Pirate Jack

[How Brown]

If possible...and I'm sure Mike Covell won't mind....could we get a copy of the text of the speakers' presentations to peruse here on The Forums ?

I think this would be a bonus to all those who study the Case and in particular to those who focus specifically on the subject matter the speakers will be discussing.

Thank you.

[Jeff Leahy]

Hi All

This post is just to confirm that we will be filming at this years conference, although when edits will be available? is more problematic..

But we would like to include extra interviews and info on the Defintive Story special features.

I've booked a hotel now for the weekend and would love to meet and chat with anyone in London.

Catch you all soon. Jeff x

[Big Jon]

Just a quick message to say that I've managed to get a wordpress app for my blackberry, so shall be blogging after every speaker (and other noteworthy times during the weekend). So keep an eye on http://jonrees.wordpress.com/ from Friday morning.

I'll also be tweeting during the conference, so follow http://twitter.com/jonrees87

[RJM]

I would like to wish everyone attending this year's conference a fun and informative time. I'm truly am :sorry: that I can't make it this time. Share a toast to little old Rob back here in Canada if you get the chance. My recovery from hip replacement surgery continues to come along nicely.

I truly hope someone from :canada: is there to represent.

I'm there in spirit with handshakes, hugs and kisses. :hug: :kiss:

Robert :smoker:

p.s. Hmmm... wonder if I can make that 2011 London Job?

[Chris G.]

Just a quick message to say that I've managed to get a wordpress app for my blackberry, so shall be blogging after every speaker (and other noteworthy times during the weekend). So keep an eye on http://jonrees.wordpress.com/ from Friday morning.

I'll also be tweeting during the conference, so follow http://twitter.com/jonrees87

Hello Jon

Thanks for this. I will check in on your reports. I am sorry that I am not able to be there for this year's event. I send everyone my best. Hopefully I can be there for the 2011 event! :happy:

Cheers

Chris http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3553/3480259031_90e755f397_s.jpg

[How Brown]

John Bennett is a very smart man, whose contributions to the Case are known throughout the community.
So its not surprising to me in the least that he'd be featured at the 2010 Convention delivering an important speech on an area of the Case that believe it or not,some people overlook at times.

I understand Jon Rees has been handing out mimeographed sheets containing some of my more better captions ( sorry that I didn't get to autograph any,gang !! ) to the conventioneers.

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[How Brown]

From Jon Rees' blog:

"Had a message at reception about a chauffer waiting for me outside RBS… Bizarre! Wandered down and couldn’t see anything."

50 bucks says that either Mike or Bob pulled that prank on you Jonny !

[How Brown]

Few people have as much passion ( talent too ) in regard to an area of the Case as does Trevor Bond. He's a good guy and thats probably an excellent speech he's shown here delivering...

But speaking of delivering...thats an ominous message there on the message board someone mysteriously delivered right in the middle of T.B.'s speech.

...but will the message be fulfilled ?:cool:

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[How Brown]

One of the benefits...or so they tell me..of visiting The Big Smoke...is getting to rub elbows with all different sorts of people. This may be true...I dunno.
Looks like Jon ( at left ) and Mike ran into one of the taproom regulars...Baphomet...during the Convention.
See if you can get him to register on the Forums,guys !
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[How Brown]

Ah...nothing like kicking back in a room full of like minded people..enjoying Ripper related discussion....some of that English food....uh....well, three outta four ain't bad..a pint of beer...and a truly great book.;)

Bob Anderson with some preferred reading in London.

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[How Brown]

There's more than one great thing that ever came outta Wales besides the road to England....the one and only Gareth Williams...a.k.a. Sam Flynn.
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[How Brown]

We're debatin' whether to use Gareth as the logo for the Forums.
I count 3 votes yea so far...
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[Stephen Thomas]

There's more than one great thing that ever came outta Wales besides the road to England

Nice to know you know your Dr Johnson, Howard.

I'd add Catherine Zeta Jones to Sam Flynn (he should be so lucky).

Great to see you again at the conference today, Gareth.

[How Brown]

Stephen:

You attended the Convention ?

And where might I ask are your photos of the event ?

[Mike Covell]

From Jon Rees' blog:

"Had a message at reception about a chauffer waiting for me outside RBS… Bizarre! Wandered down and couldn’t see anything."

50 bucks says that either Mike or Bob pulled that prank on you Jonny !

Not guilty.

[How Brown]

Mike:

I started a thread for people to share their impressions of the convention.
Hope you enjoyed it thoroughly,buddy.

[Stephen Thomas]

Stephen:

You attended the Convention ?

And where might I ask are your photos of the event ?

Sorry Howard, I didn't take my camera but I can tell you that a good time was had by all and I had a most pleasant chat with Sir Bob in the smoking area (ie out on the sidewalk) and Caz was as beautiful as ever.

[How Brown]

Stephen..

I've set up a thread in case you ( and anyone else ) would care to share your impressions of the convention.
I'm particularly interested if Jonny wandered off by himself below Commercial Road after midnight.

[Mike Covell]

Really enjoyed it Howard even though it wasn't my best weekend. The speakers, delegates and staff at the Kings Stores made it a fantastic weekend for all involved. It was nice to meet so many great people, both friendly and knowledgeable, and perhaps Robert and Jon could regale their tale of their lost hours in The White Hart. :kev:

[SirRobertAnderson]

perhaps Robert and Jon could regale their tale of their lost hours in The White Hart.

Lost hours ? Why I know the alleys of the East End like the back of my hand. I knew Big Jon was steering us the wrong way but felt horrible about correcting him seeing how he is a Brit and a serious Riperologist and I but a guest in this country. So I played along when he hit on the idea of turning back and finding Laura and John to guide him correctly from The Bell. (Our trivia team "The People of the Ibis" turned in a respectable third and would have finished first had so many questions not been about the Case of all things. Bloody Hell. Why not ask about ancient Farsi while you are at it? Fortunately Gareth recognized a picture of Maybrick to turn things around as I could only do so much by myself.)

[Big Jon]

Currently on the train home, just went past Newport. But I feel the need to defend myself from that Anderson chap!

Did we, or did we not arrive at a public house named "The White Hart"?

[SirRobertAnderson]

Did we, or did we not arrive at a public house named "The White Hart"?

Why yes we did. TWICE. :drum:

[Big Jon]

So I was just being thorough when I showed you the sights!

[Phil Carter]

Hello all,

The 2010 conference was a real ripper.
Seriously, 'twas very nice to meet so many people known previously only by their written word..Robert "I call 'em as I see 'em" Anderson, Jeff "I do Howard Brown/Merv Hughes impressions" Leahy, amongst many others. Hope all returned home in the same fine fettle I saw them in. Cheers all!

best wishes

Phil

PS The real reason for the infamous Jeff Leahy boating trip offers has been leaked, err sorry, revealed...However, I am unable to enhance upon this for fear of being "collared", eh Jeff? LOL

[SirRobertAnderson]

It was a delight to meet you as well, Phil. I'm still embedded at the Ibis, leaving for NYC tomorrow. It was a great time.

Hello all,

The 2010 conference was a real ripper.
Seriously, 'twas very nice to meet so many people known previously only by their written word..Robert "I call 'em as I see 'em" Anderson, Jeff "I do Howard Brown/Merv Hughes impressions" Leahy, amongst many others. Hope all returned home in the same fine fettle I saw them in. Cheers all!

[Trevor Bond]

Fortunately Gareth recognized a picture of Maybrick to turn things around as I could only do so much by myself.)

But not a picture of Klosowski eh Robert? Seriously it was a great weekend and many thanks to all who turned up on the Friday especially. Lovely to meet everyone and a pleasure to present to a room full of people whose knowledge of the case could in most cases probably knock me into a cocked hat.

Until next time, adieu one and all!

[Mike Covell]

Hello all,

The 2010 conference was a real ripper.
Seriously, 'twas very nice to meet so many people known previously only by their written word..Robert "I call 'em as I see 'em" Anderson, Jeff "I do Howard Brown/Merv Hughes impressions" Leahy, amongst many others. Hope all returned home in the same fine fettle I saw them in. Cheers all!

best wishes

Phil

PS The real reason for the infamous Jeff Leahy boating trip offers has been leaked, err sorry, revealed...However, I am unable to enhance upon this for fear of being "collared", eh Jeff? LOL

We need to sort our your winnings Phil. Your raffle tickets netted you a copy of Jack the Ripper the Murders and the Movies that I have here in safe keeping.:yo:

[Phil Carter]

Hello Mike,

How very kind of you.. Thank you!... I have just read through your excellent review of the last few days..it was compelling reading.

Re the "winnings"... how typically kind of you. ...we can let it ride for a while, no need to stress with it for the moment, as you have much on your hands I should imagine.. perhaps in a week or two we can approach the subject?

Thank you for claiming the prize for me. If you haven't a copy yourself, then by all means keep it as a momento.. (I have a sneaky feeling you have it already..lol.. in which case we can arrange something later on...)

best wishes

Phil

[Jeff Leahy]

Hello all,

The 2010 conference was a real ripper.
Seriously, 'twas very nice to meet so many people known previously only by their written word..Robert "I call 'em as I see 'em" Anderson, Jeff "I do Howard Brown/Merv Hughes impressions" Leahy, amongst many others. Hope all returned home in the same fine fettle I saw them in. Cheers all!

best wishes

Phil

PS The real reason for the infamous Jeff Leahy boating trip offers has been leaked, err sorry, revealed...However, I am unable to enhance upon this for fear of being "collared", eh Jeff? LOL

Hay come on guys the tash is a 'Hom'age to Howard Brown its like he's in the room with you.Besides my current brief is to be more american its the future for British producers:confused:

And as the Begg explained noone has actually ever drown or disappeared totally on one of my Ripperlogical boat trips. They are an adventure in the true meaning of the word.

Jeff

PS Mike thinking of you this week, trust your OK...:plane:

[Jennifer Shelden]

Hi all,

really good conf. Nioce to meet Mike and Jon from the forums for the first time.

Jeff,

as much as i like you, I am not going on your boat, ever!

Jenni

[Sam Flynn]

Fortunately Gareth recognized a picture of Maybrick to turn things around
But not a picture of Klosowski eh Robert?
... I would have, if a certain team member who shall remain nameless (cough... Liza!) hadn't gazumped me on the "buzzer" and ID'ed the mystery picture as Ostrog, or someone equally off-beam :)

Enjoyed the quiz, Trev - and your presentation, too.

It was great to meet you at the conference... as well as Sir Robert, Caz, John Bennett, Mark Ripper, Adam, Nats, the Beggster, the Sheldens (x2), Stephen Thomas, Suzi, Clacky & Hutch, Liza, Jeff Leahy, Kate Bradshaw, Big Jon, Mike Covell, Phil Carter... in short, everybody.

You're a fine bunch of people, and I had a great time.

xx

[SirRobertAnderson]

Clacky & Hutch,

Wasn't that a TV series ?

[Sam Flynn]

Wasn't that a TV series ?
... featuring Liza Hopkinson as Huggy Bear.

[Rob Clack]

Wasn't that a TV series ?

You should see me with a perm :)

[Natalie Severn]

...and it was especially good to see you back Sam! Loved your brilliant presentation,thoroughly enjoyed the other thoughtful presentations too .It was lovely seeing all those terrific people you have mentioned --[not forgetting dear Diddles ] but seeing new people I hadnt met before was such pleasure too ---like Andrew and Claire and Maria b!
A Great Conference----and a great big thankyou to Adam for making it all possible!
Norma

[Sam Flynn]

...not forgetting dear Diddles
How could I have omitted him!??

Nice to see you again, too, Nats - and thanks for the positive review :)

[Claire Pullon]

It was a great talk, Gareth...I know next to nothing about 19th C Poland, and your talk brought parts of it to life admirably. Fine stuff.

Lovely to meet Norma and Caz, too--I am completely distraught I had to hurry off but have had a grumbling appendix problem for a while and would have just been a miserable git if I'd hung around...vowing to make it to WS meetings now I've a game chance of recognising some faces :)

Thanks, all, for making it a great day.

[How Brown]

My man Sam !!!:hail:

Welcome back Buddy !!!

[Sam Flynn]

Hi How,

Sir Robert kindly reminded me of your "URL", which I had evidently completely forgotten :) It's good to be back, sor!

PS - Claire... I can recommend a good feldscher for your grumbly appendix, if you like.

Nice to meet you, too :D

[Jeff Leahy]

Yes blimmey there were alot of 'Welsh' people there:mod:Does this mean the next conference is in Cardiff:blah:

or Swansey:smokin:

Perhaps we should consider Tom Jones instead of Elvis as a compair?

Pirate Jack:humble:

[Sam Flynn]

Perhaps we should consider Tom Jones instead of Elvis as a compair?
I'll have a quick word with him, Jeff.

[Sam Flynn]

Tom said he's having his hair done that weekend, sorry.

[Big Jon]

I'm in for a Welsh conference!

Good to see you back Gareth!

[Sam Flynn]

I'm in for a Welsh conference!

Good to see you back Gareth!
Thanks, Jon. Good to see me front, as well, I take it? ;)

[Big Jon]

Thanks, Jon. Good to see me front, as well, I take it? ;)

Sideways as well!

[SirRobertAnderson]

... featuring Liza Hopkinson as Huggy Bear.

Fuxx....another sleepless night. Thanks. Snoop Dogg would not be pleased.

Great presentation, even though I only got to read your notes as I was upstairs making a cameo in Begg's and Leahy's skinflick. Would you consider posting it here?

[Robert Linford]

Welcome back, Gareth. If you could post a cubist painting of yourself, we could see you from all sides.

[Claire Pullon]

I'll skip the feldscher offer, thanks, Gareth. There are pains I'd rather bear...:)

Yay for a Wales conference; that would be great...although London was a fab location.

[Sam Flynn]

Great presentation, even though I only got to read your notes as I was upstairs making a cameo in Begg's and Leahy's skinflick. Would you consider posting it here?
Of course, Sir Robert - I'm thinking of morphing my notes into a Rip article first, though. Shouldn't take me too long, I hope.

[Jeff Leahy]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7316783&id=632779125

Ah! Jeff does his Howard inpersonation. Link above.

Link is from Katrin who plays Emma Smith in Definitive Story and is better know as a drug dealer in a welsh soap opera.

God there were alot of Welsh people at conference:der: have they comvinced everyone the next conference is in wales?:nono:

My vote is still for Ireland:becky:

Jeff Leahy-Parnell

[Sam Flynn]

God there were alot of Welsh people at conference:der: have they comvinced everyone the next conference is in wales?:nono:

My vote is still for Ireland:becky:
I'd vote for keeping the East End as a fixture - a place of pilgrimage, if you like! Being in Whitechapel certainly brings its own special atmosphere to proceedings.

[How Brown]

Sammy:

Never having been in Whitechapel, I'd hope that the event was held there whenever I am allowed to get through customs. I'd consider it a pilgrimage too,pardner.

Jeff....

It ain't nothing to brag about, but you do sort of look like me in that photo.

I've cut off a kupla pounds of moustache recently...and intend to grow another one soon.

[SirRobertAnderson]

I'd vote for keeping the East End as a fixture - a place of pilgrimage, if you like! Being in Whitechapel certainly brings its own special atmosphere to proceedings.

Just got back to the West Side Massive; no A/C on the plane before takeoff. Thanks, Continental Airlines ! I'm supposed to avoid saunas for medical reasons but got one nonetheless. But it was a lovely Conference and as Gareth says, you're all great people.

[Jennifer Shelden]

Hi Jeff,
I agree, I think the Cobbs would do a great job in Ireland (pluss excuse to drink Guiness)

Jenni

[Big Jon]

I would love Wales! Belfast would also be fun. But there is something special about the East End.

[Caroline Morris]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7316783&id=632779125

Ah! Jeff does his Howard inpersonation. Link above.

Link is from Katrin who plays Emma Smith in Definitive Story and is better know as a drug dealer in a welsh soap opera.

God there were alot of Welsh people at conference:der: have they comvinced everyone the next conference is in wales?:nono:

My vote is still for Ireland:becky:

Jeff Leahy-Parnell

Hi Jeff,

Is it possible to make your link visible for facebook dodgers like me? It just gives me a log-in page.

Love,

Caz
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[Trevor Bond]

Actually even Facebook types seem to struggle to see it, Caz - I think we maybe need to be 'friends' with said actress first. So yes, I would second that - sort it out Jeff! :evil:

Jon - not sure what we'd take people out to show them during lunch at a Welsh conference? 'This wall used to part of the west terrace of the Vetch'???

[Big Jon]

Could show them locations of famous Welsh murder cases!

[Mike Covell]

My manifesto for Hull is laid out thus,

10 Ripper Suspects with links to the City
The Hotel that I would choose for the conference has links to 4 suspects
Delegates could walk around the building associated with 2 suspects
Visit the locations associated with 8 suspects.

Museums, Shops, Pubs, Clubs, Eateries, and Entertainment venues all within walking distance.

Main Bus and Rail interchange joins the venue.

But I would quiet happily travel to Wales. :rain:

[Trevor Bond]

Of course if you all came to Aberystwyth we could sneak into the National Library of Wales to pay tribute to the...ingenuity...of the authors of Uncle Jack!

[Big Jon]

Mike, if you're counting Queen Victoria as a suspect in that list I will throw something at you!

[Chris G.]

I would love Wales! Belfast would also be fun. But there is something special about the East End.

Hi Jon et al.

Yes, Wales or Northern Ireland would be nice, but as with the arrangement of all conferences, and I have helped arrange a few of both U.S. Ripper conferences and War of 1812 conferences (I speak at one of the latter in Baltimore on Saturday morning that I put together), a lot depends on the convenience for the organizers, as well as for those attending.

Whether the 2011 conference is held in Wales, Belfast, or the East End, it would not make much difference to Donna and myself coming from the United States. We could make it to any of those locations. But, as I stated, I would say the key to arranging the event is what is best for the organizers and for the majority of the attendees.

All the best

Chris

[SirRobertAnderson]

Hi Jeff,
I agree, I think the Cobbs would do a great job in Ireland

Not too many sane people volunteer to organize conferences, as it can be a thankless task. And the Cobbs are eager to do it. I say we let them at it, and teach them no good deed goes unpunished......

I'd also be up for a little Titanic learning.....I'm certain that field has its controversies and I wouldn't mind say a hour long intro.

[Chris G.]

Not too many sane people volunteer to organize conferences, as it can be a thankless task. And the Cobbs are eager to do it. I say we let them at it, and teach them no good deed goes unpunished......

I'd also be up for a little Titanic learning.....I'm certain that field has its controversies and I wouldn't mind say a hour long intro.

I would be up for Belfast if the Cobbs are willing to put it together. It could also help me combine my Ripper and War of 1812 interests. Donna and I were in Warrenpoint and Rostrevor, Northern Ireland before coming down to London for the 2009 Ripper conference. The 100-foot monument to Major General Ross (http://www.themanwhocapturedwashington.com), the British commander who capture Washington in 1814 is on the shoreline in Rostrevor, County Down, recently restored by the local council. The below photograph shows my colleague, historian Dr. John McCavitt, a resident of Rostrevor, with the mayor of Newry.

Chris

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/5036538666_225544aefb.jpg

[Jeff Leahy]

Hi all just a quick not as I'm very busy...

I have asked if Katrins photos can be available to JtRforums. I will try and get her to send them to Howard.

With reguards to next years conference. I find myself in the unusual position of having to behave like a grown up:tongue1:

I have no idea who will take over but they have our 100% support.

I will be financing this years DVD so everyone can listen to the speeches.

`i'm fairly certain that 'Bullseye Lantern Ltd' will be interested in supporting and helping whoever takes on the conference. Although at present I have no idea about finance. The important thing is whoever does this has total support from Paul Begg and myself. So please speak.

We wish you every luck... Wales, ireland, or Timbuck two:car:

It will be great as you are all great people.

Yours Jeff

PS its important that we on occasions get together if only to remind ourselves that we are all on the same side!!!

[Trevor Bond]

'PS its important that we on occasions get together if only to remind ourselves that we are all on the same side!!!'

Ne'er a truer word spoken, Jeff.

[How Brown]

Amen,Mr. Bond, to what Jeff just said.
Amen.

[Phil Carter]

Hello Howard,

Amen indeed, perhaps the art of civility seen used and enjoyed at the conference will spread?

best wishes

Phil

[Liza H]

Hello All you gorgeous people!
Especially all you Welsh hunks (especially Jon) (sorry - and Gareth!) (sorry and any other Welsh hunks!)
'Bora Da' OK probably spelt wrong, but you know what I mean!
I VOTE FOR WALES NEXT YEAR.
I'm completely knac***ed!
My finger (that Adam tried to obliterate) is bl**dy painful, but, what a wonderful weekend!!
Did you realise you lot raised over four hundred quid in the raffle? plus over one hundred quid for the book & picture for the Frances Coles memorial appeal!
One thing that has been proved is I'm NOT photogenic!!!!!!
Love you all
Liza
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[How Brown]

Hey Liza...if I come over to the U.K....will you promise to try and give me the goose ?
Otherwise,I ain't leaving the neighborhood.

[Jeff Leahy]

Hi Howard

I have just booked myself into the International History TV conference in New York 28th 29th January 2011.

I havn't as yet sorted a schedule, and I have no idea how big america is:music:

But I'd love to touch base with any Ripperologists in New York? In January?

I guess i will be at a hotel or something. I no nothing about the USA and would welcome advice.

Yours Jeff

PS Do cockney hunks get a mention Liza?

PS PS I will be talking at the Whitechapel Society 'Beadle lecture' supporting the 'guvnor' on Saturday night.

[How Brown]

Jeff:

That sounds interesting...we'll touch base before January...maybe hook up. Thats in Sir Bob's neck of the woods by the way...

[Jeff Leahy]

Jeff:

That sounds interesting...we'll touch base before January...maybe hook up. Thats in Sir Bob's neck of the woods by the way...

Hey, Pirate Jack and american geography are not a great mixture.

So any advice would be most appreciated :welcome:

Speak closer to time but would be good to meet some of you guy's if you can tolerate an old 'argumentative git' like me?

Jeff:pray2:

[SirRobertAnderson]

I have just booked myself into the International History TV conference in New York 28th 29th January 2011.

I havn't as yet sorted a schedule, and I have no idea how big america is:music:

But I'd love to touch base with any Ripperologists in New York? In January?
.

I suspect Stan Russo and myself might be around....

[How Brown]

Jeff:

This is a good idea. Lets make every effort to see it happen.:tea:

[Trevor Bond]

Liza - from the sounds of it the Cobbs are pretty keen on putting a Dublin conference together, and to be perfectly honest if they are that enthusiastic then who am I to interfere? However if that didn't come off for whatever reason or more people want to 'vote' for Wales then while I couldn't dedicate the time to put it all together myself, I am sure that an alliance of myself, Jon Rees and Gareth could maybe pull something off? Would certainly save on train fare for me! Mind you, even Gareth seems to think Aberystwyth is the back end of beyond, and he only comes from Neath (he's not wrong incidentally).

Trevor (Welsh hunk by residence).

You remain the blagger per excellence Liza, and glad to hear the finger is improving.

[Trevor Bond]

Doesn't Paul Begg have some Welsh connections?

[Big Jon]

Paul is Welsh, originally from Cardiff I believe.

Let's face it, if we did it it would have to be within a reasonable distance to an airport and with good transport links to the rest of the UK - so we're talking near Cardiff.

Let's hope the Cobb's can manage it though!

[Trevor Bond]

Cardiff or Swansea really yep, unless it was somewhere near the border giving the option of Bristol - Abergevenny or such like.

Cardiff it is then! (no offence to Swansea...:brick:)

But yep, my vote is for the Cobbs.

[Colin Roberts]

Never having been in Whitechapel, I'd hope that the event was held there whenever I am allowed to get through customs. I'd consider it a pilgrimage too,pardner.

Do you carry a purse, Howard?

Oooops! I meant to say, a 'European Shoulder Bag'.

Judging from all of the photos, from the most recent Conference, as well as those, from the most recent 'London Job'; I would say that they seem to be in vogue.

Perhaps you had better acquire one, before your "pilgrimage".

Queer Eye, for a Straight Guy; Metrosexuality; etc ...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/5041832574_97b15f402c.jpg

[SPE]

Do you carry a purse, Howard?
Oooops! I meant to say, a 'European Shoulder Bag'.
Judging from all of the photos, from the most recent Conference, as well as those, from the most recent 'London Job'; I would say that they seem to be in vogue.
Perhaps you had better acquire one, before your "pilgrimage".
Queer Eye, for a Straight Guy; Metrosexuality; etc ...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/5041832574_97b15f402c.jpg

Where else would he carry his lip gloss and eyeliner?

[Big Jon]

Oi, leave the man-bags out of this!

Or messenger bag/satchel to the otherwise inclined. I wear mine with pride as I prefer it to a backpack!

And I think I'm far too hairy and slobish to be considered "metrosexual"!


Do you carry a purse, Howard?

Oooops! I meant to say, a 'European Shoulder Bag'.

Judging from all of the photos, from the most recent Conference, as well as those, from the most recent 'London Job'; I would say that they seem to be in vogue.

Perhaps you had better acquire one, before your "pilgrimage".

Queer Eye, for a Straight Guy; Metrosexuality; etc ...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/5041832574_97b15f402c.jpg

[SirRobertAnderson]

Or messenger bag/satchel to the otherwise inclined. I wear mine with pride as I prefer it to a backpack!


Where else would I carry my knif ?

[Colin Roberts]

Where else would he carry his lip gloss and eyeliner?

Oi, leave the man-bags out of this!

:laugh:

[Trevor Bond]

True men schlep around with a carrier bag that eventually breaks and forces you to shove everything in your pockets so you look like you have some kind of upper-leg deformity.

You all know it's true.

[Jeff Leahy]

Yes Begg is welsh..it explains alot...

Luckily I'm Irish on the Leahy side and never mention the 'Lewis' gingers from whom I inherit the dodgy red beard.

Then I discovered that the 'Parnell's' arnt Irish but Yanks and Tudors??

Geneology is a bugger.

Seriously however has Adam left a successor and how can we support them?

Jeff

PS is anyone going to the Beadle lecture tomorrow..looks like I'm the designated driver

[Raven]

I'm cool with Bristol (major airport and train links) -------
:kiss:Wishful thinking

[Monty]

True men schlep around with a carrier bag that eventually breaks and forces you to shove everything in your pockets so you look like you have some kind of upper-leg deformity.

You all know it's true.

My right pocket bulges grotesquely due to my wallet.

Clacky goes for the plaggy bag look. The Angelos of Ripperology.

Monty
:)

[How Brown]

Do you carry a purse, Howard?--C.C.Roberts

Buddy...I don't even have nail clippers. I get Nina to drive about 35-40 mph in the Jeep and I put my feet down on the road as we zoom along. In the old days, I used to just take my shoes and socks off and kick a brick wall when the nails got around 1 to 1 1/2 inches long.

Nah...I don't have much of a feminine side to get in touch with. Even the women in my family had manboobs and moustaches.

[Jeff Leahy]

Do you carry a purse, Howard?--C.C.Roberts

Buddy...I don't even have nail clippers. I get Nina to drive about 35-40 mph in the Jeep and I put my feet down on the road as we zoom along. In the old days, I used to just take my shoes and socks off and kick a brick wall when the nails got around 1 to 1 1/2 inches long.

Nah...I don't have much of a feminine side to get in touch with. Even the women in my family had manboobs and moustaches.

Hey dont knock the Moustache's their all just jellious:hippie:

[How Brown]

I hear you Jethro. I've had one for 45 years.
My aunt Magda had one when she was 11. By twelve, the carpet matched the curtains on that lady.

[Jeff Leahy]

My daughter apparently passed her Moustache removal exam today so perhaps I could plug for business and take commission?

She failed leg waxing however:second:

Jefro

[How Brown]

I could use a leg waxer over here like about yesterday,pal...Nina is Portugese and their leg hair is like velcro. The other day,she rolled on top of one of my teeshirts and dragged the sumbitch around the house for 15 minutes before she noticed she was dragging it.

[Jeff Leahy]

I could use a leg waxer over here like about yesterday,pal...Nina is Portugese and their leg hair is like velcro. The other day,she rolled on top of one of my teeshirts and dragged the sumbitch around the house for 15 minutes before she noticed she was dragging it.

Yo the long suffering Nina. How do you put up with this 'geezer Nina' ?

I'm sure you are beautiful and would love to meet you when I'm State side..

Yours Jeff the PIRATE:washing:

[Paul]

True men schlep around with a carrier bag that eventually breaks and forces you to shove everything in your pockets so you look like you have some kind of upper-leg deformity.

You all know it's true.

If you get a 'bag for life' they last a little longer. And keep a spare bag inside the one you are carrying. Not that I do either, of course, which is why my pockets bulge...

[Paul]

Yes Begg is welsh..it explains alot...

Luckily I'm Irish on the Leahy side and never mention the 'Lewis' gingers from whom I inherit the dodgy red beard.

Then I discovered that the 'Parnell's' arnt Irish but Yanks and Tudors??

Geneology is a bugger.

Seriously however has Adam left a successor and how can we support them?

Jeff

PS is anyone going to the Beadle lecture tomorrow..looks like I'm the designated driver


It explains my deep baritone voice, why I sing 'Myfanwy' like a male voice choir, my literary gifts - I think I described streets as 'black, Bible black' first, or maybe it was Dylan T. - and why I can wriggle my pelvis like Tom Jones and like him have a bulge in my trousers that looks like my plastic carrier bag's broken and I've had stuff the contents in my pockets. It's why I take take pride in my heritage, claim to understand roadsigns in Wales, have read the Mabinogion, sometimes wear a Welsh rugby shirt, and love warm, freshly-baked Welsh cakes. I have stood on the pitch at Cardiff Arms Park during an international with Ireland and have fond memories of the grey slate valley towns. I also think that Brains is a good pint, especially with some excellent Welsh cheese or Welsh lamb and mint sauce. Yeah, I'm Welsh.

So I vote for the next conference to be held in Wales because what does Ireland have to offer - Guinness and pubs that serve huge lunches, and Guinness, and pretty barmaids, and Guinness... you know, the more one thinks about it, Ireland does have its attractions.

[Paul]

My daughter apparently passed her Moustache removal exam today so perhaps I could plug for business and take commission?

She failed leg waxing however:second:

Jefro

Your daughter had to sit an exam before her moustache could be removed? But failed the leg exam and still has hairy legs?

[Rbaynton]

I'm cool with Bristol (major airport and train links) -------
:kiss:Wishful thinking

You really should come to Bristol. Not only major airport and train links but also major cider consumption, guaranteed to generate debate, theories and suspects!

[Dave James]

R B,
This is some wezcounrtri deffinition of guaranteed to generate debate, I take :tongue1: Zidder and logic?

[Mike Covell]

I enjoyed meeting everyone at the conference.

Last night I chilled with Susan and the cat and some munchies, we watched Big Fish, which is a fantastic Tim Burton movie, then I checked the news for the weather today. It said it was going to rain, yet so far it hasn't, it's actually quiet nice outside given the circumstances. The thing I like about Tim Burton is that he his not Speilberg. :spit:

[Raven]

On reflection Cardiff would be a great place to hold a conference :)

[ferret]

Would be good- or maybe Southsea.........Conan Doyle,,,,,,,,,,,:brick:

[Trevor Bond]

Cardiff, Dublin, Neither or Either?

Thanks for your input, Raven. The below will come as no surprise to you - but I thought I should put this out as a general 'invitation', if you like.

Whilst I am sure the Cobbs would do a fantastic job, I have to admit that I do have some concerns about how accesible everyone would find Dublin (I know I would struggle, for instance), plus what with the Euro being what it is I think the British majority of attendees would probably find the cost of hotels, drinks etc rather prohibitive in most cases. Having spoken to a few other hopeful 2011 attendees since this year's shenanigans I have found others do share these concerns. I would like to point out right from the start that I am not trying to criticise what I am sure would be a fantastic Dublin event and the Cobbs who, quite frankly, would probably do a job the likes of myself could only dream of.

Cardiff, as Raven suggested and as has previously been discussed, would offer a good mix of links (road, rail and air, especially for our fairly large Welsh and West of England contingent), as well as likely a (somewhat) cheaper option. I believe therefore that it is worth putting up as an alternative, and I am willing to put my head above the parapet and say that with a bit of assistance I would be happy to arrange a conference there should people be interested. I have no desire to leap into Adam's figuritive grave, but if it would help then there we are. By the same token, if someone else decides Cardiff would be a good idea but they would rather do the organising themselves, I will offer as much or as little (inexpert) help as they feel they need.

Could I be so bold as to suggest a quick 'straw poll' to see whether people planning/ hoping to attend next year feel they would find it easier or more desirable to attend in either Dublin, Cardiff, either or neither?

If people are 'up' for Dublin then I shall step back and let the Cobbs get on with it, and will do my very best to make it. If I can't, but most other people manage it, well that's my problem. I am not suggesting this for my own convenience, and certainly not for my ego, or out of any twisted desire to drown myself in admin! Cardiff would be more convenient for me, but so would London, and quite frankly I think most who know me on here would know I am hardly the type to throw a spanner in any works simply for my own convenience.

Any thoughts anyone?

[Mike Covell]

Hull offers,

The hotel that 4 Ripper suspects have stayed at.

The Customs House, workplace of Robert D'Onston Stephenson.

Locations associated with Ripper Scares and 10 previously named Suspects all within walking distance of the hotel.

Locations associated with Ripper Scares and 10 previously named Suspects all within vehicle distance of the hotel.

Free entry to all Hull Museums and Art Galleries.

Entertainment venues, pubs, clubs, theatres, cinemas, and much much more within walking distance.

Exclusive tours of Hull City Hall and Hull's Guildhall can be arranged at no extra cost.

Transportation links include;
Paragon Railway Station which links to Manchester, London, York and many more local and national railway lines.

Humberside Airport which handles national and international flights.

Motorway access to Hull via A63 or if your looking for something different via the A15 across the Humber Bridge.

plus...
Scarborough and Bridlington, locations associated with Robert D'Onston Stephenson and the bloodhounds are all within railway distance.

:bolt:

[Trevor Bond]

the bloodhounds Mike????? :ear:

NOW I'm interested!!!

[Mike Covell]

Burgho and Barnaby came from Scalby Manor on the outskirts of Scarborough.

[Caroline Morris]

Hi Trevor,

I would go to Dublin if that became the final decision - or even Hull :) - but Cardiff sounds good to me so put me down as a 'yes'.

Love,

Caz
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[ferret]

That's my vote! Could do Dublin from Southampton but Oooooh airports maybe not a good idea- especially coming home! ....all that stress!:peep:

[Andrew Firth]

The Cobbs live in Belfast don't they? Isn't that where they were suggesting? I hadn't heard about a Dublin suggestion before.

My own preference is for London. Yes the beer is expensive, but hey, it's London innit...?:nod:

All the best
Andrew

[Trevor Bond]

Yes Andrew, my bad (what a horrible phrase). It IS Belfast and not Dublin being suggested by the Cobbs. I know you weren't suggesting that I was undermining their abilities (albeit I did get the wrong place!) but I would like to re-iterate that I am not. So there. Done.

Personally I too can see a great deal of advantages to London, as you are literally 'right in the middle of it', ie Philip can mention a wall and an hour or two later most of the party are having their photo taken by it, and equally moving on to the White Hart is not only a pleasant and hospitable experience ( :-) ) but is almost a kind of Ripperological shorthand in itself. Hey, I love London! That said there seems to a general feeling amongst some that it is about time it went 'on tour' again.

Not only would it potentially make things easier for people lving elsewhere, but perhaps it might shake things up a little. Yes the White Hart is lovely and we all know the relevance, but by the same token I don't think there are many of us who haven't been in there twenty, thirty, two hundred times before, or many, many more. The same goes for walking down Brick Lane, looking up Dorset St, etc etc. All good hobbies, but sometimes a change is as good as a rest isn't it? If we ARE looking for somewhere different, then, to my mind, the only major consideration should be the practical elements ie transport, price, facilities. The 'Jack' factor is gone, to a greater or lesser extent, although as Mike would acknowledge you can find something in most places, albeit Hull would take some beating in that respect! I am simply raising a possibility that I believe may be more practical in some of those categories. I may be wrong, or people may say they'd rather pay a little more and travel a little further for a Cobbs-organised conference than one arranged by a couple of relative rookies. I could hardly blame them. Whoever takes over has some big shoes to fill.

I think the next, both logical and courteous, step should be to get in touch with the Cobbs and see how far along they are. If they have booked a venue and made loads of plans then it would only be fair to say 'go for it' I guess. If not, however, then I am willing to put forward an alternative.

Who actually makes the decision, anyway?

[Caroline Morris]

Hi Trevor,

While we were in the White Hart after the conference I was sitting next to Colin at one point and he asked me if I thought Belfast would be a goer. (I didn't pick up on that in your post, probably because Dublin has been suggested in the past.) I said that I would be up for it (let's face it, I'd be up for anywhere - apart from the Isle of Wight :whistle:), but doubted if too many others would, considering both the practical and financial aspects. So I can't see him making any firm plans yet.

Love,

Caz
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[Big Jon]

I've already told Trevror I'd be more than happy to help organize a Cardiff conference, but Colin said they have easy access to a venue (the docks visitors centre) so that may help keep costs down. Let's see what they say, and if it comes down to it put it to a vote!w

[Jennifer Shelden]

Hi everybody,

firstly I do wish people would realise that there is in fact life north of the Watford gap and that not all people find it easy or cheap to get to London. In fact it would probably take me longer to get on a train to Cardif and cost me more to get on a train to London than it would to go on a plane to Belfast.

I think you see where this might be leading, but personally when the Cobbs spoke to Neal and I about the possibilites of Belfast at the Conference I was very impressed. they are very welcoming and enuthiastic people. Not only that, but it seemed to be the most viable option at this point in time. As I understand it one of the Cobbs runs the Titanic Centre there and has ready access to a good quality venue. Hence i'd be quite up for a Conference organised by themselves in Belfast (Irish Conference, about time, there are plenty of Irish connections).

I cant help but add, that there would also be ample opportunity to have a conference in any of the other places mentioned. But it would seem with the clock ticking down to next year, Belfast would be the best option to secure a venue etc etc. Trevor, Andrew and Mike all know Ithink they are great (but Trevor havent you got an appeal to be sortingout :) ) and in no means am i trying to slight anyone etc etc etc. There is of course then more time to plan where the following years conference would be (Leicester, lol I say that everytime and no one ever listens)

Just my opinion,

There are many years worth of conferences to go, I hope!

Here's to the next whereever it may be

Jenni

[Chris G.]

Hi Jenni

It seems that every year there is speculation on where the next conference should be held, and suggestions are made of a number of places that are not really viable. You are correct that since the Cobbs are willing to mount the conference and already have a venue in mind, they might have an inside track position in terms of making it happen.

Chris

[Mike Covell]

I had a venue in mind, and spoke at length with the owners to cut a deal regarding a package for delegates but I am quiet happy to let the Cobb's run things in Ireland.

[Chris G.]

Hi Mike et al.

If it is to be held in Belfast and with the link with the Titanic and the Cobbs' association with the Titanic Centre, it might be appropriate to have a presentation on W. T. Stead. We might even have a moment to drink his health, given that the man went down with the Titanic in April 1912.

All the best

Chris http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2467/3592488146_458e76994f_o.gif

[Trevor Bond]

Jenni, Chris et al,

Many thanks for your feedback. As I said my motivation for putting the Cardiff suggestion 'out there' was simply that a few people had suggested they might find it easier to get elsewhere than Ireland, and I wanted to test the water, so to speak. If people had said 'yes, Cardiff!' in droves, then I would have been happy to either collaborate on it with someone else or turn it over to them entirely. I wasn't aware that the Cobbs had a venue to hand, which changes a lot of my original thoughts! As it is it sounds as if a) the Cobbs are rather far along with proceedings, and b) a lot of people whose opinions I very much respect are keen for them to be allowed to get on with it. As I said I wanted to guage opinion, so job done.

Many thanks to those who expressed an interest in a Welsh conf - as Jenni says there are (hopefully) many more to come, so maybe myself and Jon could get plotting for 2012 (there's something else going on in Tower Hamlets that year apparently, something about running and jumping and throwing stuff). As Jenni says though, I do have plenty of other stuff to be getting on with!

See y'all in Belfast!

[ferret]

Time is seriously running out here though-

Much as I love the Cobbs I'm not totally sure that this is a good plan- airports are difficult enough as it is withought a conf on top. :rain:

Can't we look agin at Cardiff or somewhere sort of MID GB again? Anyway is it decided who's orgnising this- scared that time is getting VERRRY short here- may be worth contacting Brittania Hotels maybe and seeing where's available...Weren't the WS 1888 going to get involved in the next Conf or did I make that up?
Scary stuff but I think IMHO that keeping it on the mainland may be a better move- maybe go back to London again this year-which lets be fair was a great venue and fun to be in and around (2011) and then plan for 2013 maybe when there's more time for a recce:juggle: Just a thought.........

[Chris G.]

I had a venue in mind, and spoke at length with the owners to cut a deal regarding a package for delegates but I am quiet happy to let the Cobb's run things in Ireland.

Hi Mike and Trevor

Both your proposals are interesting as a "different" place to hold a conference, though I might suggest that the Cobbs might be in a better position to mount the event, given that they already have experience dealing with tourists/visitors/delegates. I would also add that I think that a hotel accomodations plus conference venue package deal is probably too perilous to consider in the present economic climate, and that Adam Wood had it right to do it by renting a hall or a pub, in the case of King's Stores, and let the attendees see to their own accomodations.

All the best

Chris

[SirRobertAnderson]

I wasn't aware that the Cobbs had a venue to hand, which changes a lot of my original thoughts! As it is it sounds as if a) the Cobbs are rather far along with proceedings, and b) a lot of people whose opinions I very much respect are keen for them to be allowed to get on with it. As I said I wanted to guage opinion, so job done.

I think anyone crazy enough to want to do the organizational work required deserves to be anointed, and since the Cobbs seem to have several natural advantages I say let them at it ! Might be fun to learn something about the Titanic as well; after all Stead died on it.

[Chris G.]

I think anyone crazy enough to want to do the organizational work required deserves to be anointed, and since the Cobbs seem to have several natural advantages I say let them at it ! Might be fun to learn something about the Titanic as well; after all Stead died on it.

He was going to send someone in his stead, but ended up going himself. :)

C

[ferret]

Hi Chris
Yep I agree I reckon it's too late to organise a MEGA conf with hotel booking etc etc It took the past brilliant organisers a lot longer than 11 months I'm sure!...... Hmmm what's fot the best then?:pop2:


Southsea............Conan D' ............... LOL

[Jennifer Shelden]

Hi Trevor,

I was joking about the thing you are supposed to be doing, I know you are doing it.

You make a very valid point in regards to 2012. I dont want to end up running the marathon, ugh!

much respect
Jenni

[ferret]

AAAAAAAAwwwwwwwwww go on Jen:llama: you can do it!!!! Whereas my good self :crutch: doesn't even dwell on the prospect!!!

Now back to the Conf......... my Grandfather had a narrow shave on the Titanic but......... really would selfishly prefer the mainland...........OK even Hull - at a push (sorry Mike):roll:

[John Savage]

Hi all,

It used to be the rule that JTR conferences were held in alternative years in England and the US, but for the last couple of years things seem to have changed.

As at least half of the posters here and on Casebook come from the USA, is it not time they had their chance once again?

I suggest Philadelphia, as I know someone there who could organise a conference "more better". He could organize the cheeseburgers and I could probably smuggle in some jellied eels!

Rgds
John

[How Brown]

The Philadelphia Connection:

*** A "Ripper" letter written from Philly.
*** The first Ripper book published in Philly ( Samuel Hudson, 1888)
*** Tumblety had digs down on 3rd & Chestnut
*** Dr. Spitzka was from Philadelphia
*** Helena Blavatsky lived down on 34th & Sansom in 1870's
*** Bogus diploma doctor John Buchanan ( possible connection to Tumblety) based here...and prosecuted by my Great grandfather
*** Emilie Schaumberg lived here ( 4 blocks from where I was born), wife of Hughes-Hallett.
*** R. Harding Davis from Philly...buried one mile from my house
*** Laird Cregar, actor in the 1944 film, The Lodger
*** More better food than in Britain....you won't want to leave.

[SirRobertAnderson]

And you've got the haunted prison....Philly makes a ton of sense for a U.S. conference.

The Philadelphia Connection:

*** A "Ripper" letter written from Philly.
*** The first Ripper book published in Philly ( Samuel Hudson, 1888)
*** Tumblety had digs down on 3rd & Chestnut
*** Dr. Spitzka was from Philadelphia
*** Helena Blavatsky lived down on 34th & Sansom in 1870's
*** Bogus diploma doctor John Buchanan ( possible connection to Tumblety) based here...and prosecuted by my Great grandfather
*** Emilie Schaumberg lived here ( 4 blocks from where I was born), wife of Hughes-Hallett.
*** R. Harding Davis from Philly...buried one mile from my house
*** Laird Cregar, actor in the 1944 film, The Lodger
*** More better food than in Britain....you won't want to leave.

[Big Jon]

No ones stopping the US having a conference, but someone from over there needs to organise it!

So if I've got this correct: the Cobbs are organising a 2011 Belfast conference, and myself and Trevor are probably going to go for 2012 or 2013 for Cardiff.

[Caroline Morris]

To be fair, unless there have been sackloads of private messages going back and forth, we've barely had half a dozen people's views on this yet.

Anyone taking this on will need to know that more than just a handful of us will commit to the chosen venue.

Love,

Caz
X

[Chris G.]

No ones stopping the US having a conference, but someone from over there needs to organise it!

So if I've got this correct: the Cobbs are organising a 2011 Belfast conference, and myself and Trevor are probably going to go for 2012 or 2013 for Cardiff.

If the Cobbs are "on" for 2011 in the U.K., it would be great to see Colin in here to tell us about it. Any chance of luring him in here?

As has been noted by Mr Savage, the custom was to hold U.S. conferences in alternate years, so what about 2012 in the United States. Philadelphia would suit me as it is just I-95 from where I am, and my wife Donna is from Philly. To add to Howard's list of Philly Ripper connections, as we recently discussed on this site longshot Ripper suspect H. H. Holmes (Herman W. Mudgett) was executed at that haunted prison, Moyamensing, which also has an Edgar Allan Poe connection (see below).

Chris

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[ferret]

To be fair, unless there have been sackloads of private messages going back and forth, we've barely had half a dozen people's views on this yet.

Anyone taking this on will need to know that more than just a handful of us will commit to the chosen venue.

Love,

Caz
X
Good one Caz-
Hey is this being steamrollered or is there anything sorted?
??
Suz

[Trevor Bond]

'Steamrollered' would be a little harsh, Suzi, but the prevailing - and possibly quite wise - opinion appears to be that the Cobbs are in a better position than either myself, Jon or a combination of the two. I don't know about PMs - I certainly haven't had any - but Colin seems confident that he will get the numbers; whether that is from private conversations/ correspondence, or just confidence, I can't say. But I am willing to take his word for it.

I know Colin is quite eager to get some support going ('the blessing of the Ripperologists' is how he put it, which sounds like something of a bizzare ceremony!) so I will gently suggest that he gets himself on here.

As far as alternatives for 2011 I am now bowing out, respectfully and - hopefully - respectably. Caz, Ali and Suzi - many thanks for your interest, which if nothing else goes to show that I did not enter the fray for no good reason.

Should it come to it that an alternative becomes desirable again then I will of course see if there is anything I can do if asked, but I will not be suggesting it again off my own back, and am as of now wholeheartedly supporting the 'Cobbs Cause', and looking forward to a good old Irish Ripperological 'craic'. I happen to know that Colin has some rather exciting stuff in the pipeline.

[Mike Covell]

Looking forward to what people have planned for 2011. :tea:

[Mike Covell]

As far as alternatives for 2011 I am now bowing out, respectfully and - hopefully - respectably. Caz, Ali and Suzi - many thanks for your interest, which if nothing else goes to show that I did not enter the fray for no good reason.

What made you change your mind Trevor?

[Trevor Bond]

What made you change your mind Trevor?

I raised the possibility because a) I had no idea whether any final decision had been made, or whether the Cobbs' interest was even any more than potential, and b) people had spoken to me about having reservations about the logistical and financial implications of a Belfast conference.

As it stands, it seems like a) the Cobbs are fairly well advanced, and very well prepared, and b) that just as many people as may have reservations about that location, feel the Cobbs should be allowed to get on with it. I can't argue with that, given the prior statement.

As I say I am still willing to put something together in Cardiff, be it next year, 2012 or - if we are foregoing a UK conference in 2012 - 2013. But to go any further with plans given the circumstances would run the risk of causing rifts within the 'community', and as I have privately said to another poster today, any situation with rival conferences or potentially even rival plans would be good for no-one.

[Mike Covell]

Shame mate, would have loved a trip down to your neck of the woods.

[SirRobertAnderson]

'
I know Colin is quite eager to get some support going ('the blessing of the Ripperologists' is how he put it,

That usually takes place during Whitsuntide.

[Colin Cobb]

Hello to all

Its Colin Cobb and yes this is my first post on JTR forums.
I hope it will inspire all to consider Belfast as a viable destination for the 2011 Jack the Ripper conference.

As MC for the conference for the last two years I have been welcomed into the world of ripperdom and now consider many of you personal friends. I have thoroughly enjoyed this rare privilege as it came about through Jeremy Beadles sad passing.

My first conference was Wolverhampton and it was an excellent example of the conference on tour, exciting ,different and fresh.

This is were Belfast comes in, yes my place of birth and steeped in maritime history and culture. Despite media reports of troubles over the last 40 years Belfast has risen above this and has moved on to a new future and is now to most people the undiscovered country.

One of our proudest achievements is Titanic Quarter, a 185 acre site formerly the site of Harland and Wolff Shipyard, the worlds biggest in Titanic’s Day.
Titanic quarter is being completely redeveloped and one main highlight is Titanic’s Dock and Pump-House.

Titanic’s Dock is the last place Titanic ever rested on dry ground, her physical footprint in history.
The Dry Dock can hold 23 million gallons of water, all pumped out in just 1 hour and 40mins, by the Pump-House.

My company Titanic walking tours and our catering company whitestar catering are the operators of the dock and pump-house café, visitor centre and the tours of the site.
This is where I propose the 2011 Jack the Ripper conference should be held.

The Beautiful Victorian Pump-house was opened by none other than Prince Albert Victor in May 1889.
The pump-house is one of the last remaining buildings left with a direct link to Titanic and its history. Housing three massive pumping engines, tool shops ,a visitor centre and conference facilitys make it idea and unique for our conference.

We can provide :
A Historical and Unique Venue
Audio/Visual Facilities
7 acres site
Secure access
3 venues inside the pump-house
Full catering provided by our own company.
Our own pontoon for our planned boat trip by our partners the Lagan Boat Company.

Two ripper connections in Belfast.

Conference and Delegate discount on hotels provided kindly by the Northern Ireland Tourist Board.

Full Access to all key Titanic Locations not opened to the public.
Free Wi-Fi

Irish Entertainment provided by our local band.
Bus provided for transport to and from your hotel by our partners Belfast CitySightseeing.

All we need is your support and backing for what will the most exciting ripper conference to date.
Here are the websites to view our venue and space.

www.titanicsdock.com (http://www.titanicsdock.com/)

To view inside the rooms at

http://www.nisp.co.uk/pump-house-events.aspx (http://www.nisp.co.uk/pump-house-events.aspx)

We have all the infrastructure in place and ready to go.
Most will find that it is cheaper to fly to Belfast or Dublin than travel on the main land.
If booked early enough some flights can be as little as £20 each return.

I look forward to your comments and this is my bid for Belfast 2011

Many thanks

Colin Cobb

[Trevor Bond]

Is that when you have to dress only in toga and 'cheesecutter hat' and dance along Hanbury St on one leg before holding Diddles aloft in the shadow of Christ Church and chanting 'Begg, Fido and Skinner - Begg, Fido and Skinner', Robert? Or was that just a very odd night out?

Mike - we shall get a Welsh conf going one year, believe me - but in the meantime if yourself, Susan and the kids, or any combination thereof, fancy a trip this way then we will be more than willing to meet up and show you the sights, such as they are.

[Phil Carter]

Hello Colin,

Welcome to the dark side. The place where lunacy, genius and optimum intelligence rear their collective heads...sometimes all at once.

I can see no reason why Belfast cannot be the venue of choice. You have my vote. (Although I too adore Cardiff.. lovely place!)

As soon as the decision is made, the dates arranged etc,I will book my combined flights.

Pssst... a cheap decent hotel on the quiet please..lol

It was great to meet you in London.

best wishes

Phil

[Trevor Bond]

Sounds FANTASTIC Colin. A sincere 'best of luck', although it sounds as if it won't be needed. Very much looking forward to it.

How easy is it to travel from Northern Ireland into the Republic these days? There are a few places in both I would be eager to combine with the conf, personally.

As someone who grew up (in much less hyperbolic times) in a London with the threat of IRA bombings, and all that came with that - roadblocks, etc, all the bins being taken away - and remembers 2 particular incidents vividly, I wholeheartedly support your sentiment that anything that helps promote 'another side' to NI should be 100percent applauded. It amazes me to a certain extent that 'Northern Ireland' has not attempted to re-name itself to escape such connotations, but perhaps we should be glad it hasn't. You deserve to be proud of your country, as you clearly are, and I very much look forward to visiting.

[Chris G.]

Hello Colin

Welcome to the site. What you have to offer to put on a JTR Convention in Belfast in 2011 sounds fantastic.

Thanks

Chris

[Jennifer Shelden]

Hi Colin,

been looking at the links you provided. Must say the facilities look pretty damn good.

You keep this place quiet!

I cant fault your enthusiasm either

Jenni

[SirRobertAnderson]

Is that when you have to dress only in toga and 'cheesecutter hat' and dance along Hanbury St on one leg before holding Diddles aloft in the shadow of Christ Church and chanting 'Begg, Fido and Skinner - Begg, Fido and Skinner', Robert? Or was that just a very odd night out?

I don't remember having a toga.....I was told all one wore was a hat. I think Begg tricked me.

[SirRobertAnderson]

I look forward to your comments and this is my bid for Belfast 2011

First off, I can see a problem with your typeset. Perhaps that's an Irish thing, to make it easier to read. Or is it like speaking slowly? I like to talk to people from exotic cultures and learn of their ways.

Second - and I ask this solely for How's sake cuz he is at work and can't get to the Net - will there be unfortunates available in the area for study ? His knowledge of hookers (both male AND female) worldwide is simply staggering, although he is far too modest to present his research efforts, even here at the Forums. Will he be able to conduct field research in Belfast?

[Colin Cobb]

Premier inn is the first hotel in Titanic quarter and is 1 mile from the venue. It is here i will be attempting to get all delegates accomodation as we are premier inns official Titanic Walking Tour.
The Hotel is brand new and opens nov 8th 2010 and has 121 bedrooms.

Travel to Belfast is simple and can be cost effective.


Ryanair will no longer be flying to Belfast due to a dispute with the airport controllers over a runway extension.

But if you are looking for cost effective ryanair will fly from any mainland airport to Dublin for a very cheap price, provided you book more than 2 months in advance.

Belfast is 100 miles from Dublin and from there you can either hire a car if you want to tour round Ireland or get the airport bus which is around £14 return direct to Belfast city centre.

So thats to Dublin but of course lets go direct to Belfast,

There are two airports :

Belfast International 30 miles outside Belfast.

Belfast City Airport 2 miles from city centre.



Airlines that do this of course:

Easyjet

Fly to the international airport from various uk destinations and will also fly to Belfast city if you are travelling from LUTON.

RYANAIR
Fly from various uk destinations to Dublin.
Pros . Cheapest option flight wise
Cons 100 mile travel to Belfast


www.jet2.com (http://www.jet2.com/)

Jet2 is for the northern brigade flying from Bradford and blackpool direct to Belfast International.


www.aerlingus.com (http://www.aerlingus.com/)

air lingus flys direct to Belfast international.

www.flybe.com (http://www.flybe.com/)

Various locations all over uk direct to Belfast City airport.
Very handy airline, maybe slightly more expensive than others.
Motto book early.

Hope this helps.
colin cobb

[Colin Cobb]

Belfast International is 18 miles from belfast city centre not 30 miles.

there is a regular bus service.

apologies

colin cobb

[How Brown]

Dear Colin:

Thanks very much for the elaborate post with all the information.
We're very glad you're here.:whoo:

[Nemo]

Sounds good to me

I like the history of the Titanic and I have numerous relatives in Belfast

Try and get a date ASAP and I'll book a flight, unless anyone prefers Cardiff - lol

Cardiff is easy for me to get to as I'm on the Welsh border, but I'm not sure I want to go there...(I'm not anti-Welsh, just a bit anti-Cardiff)

[Big Jon]

Colin:

Welcome aboard! All this sounds marvellous! Reserve me a ticket now!


Everyone else:

Hey you don't need a conference to come visit us Welshies (or wannabies in Trevors case!). Set a date and just come down!