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Chris Scott · 11-05-2011, 07:52 AM

I have recently acquired a copy of a Ripper documentary entitled "The Monster Within and Among Us: The Jack the Ripper Case."
Bizarrely this is part of a 10 part series called "America's Serial Killers."
This Ripper documentary features long sections from the 1944 version of the Lodger in which there are a number of scenes of mounted policemen chasing the Ripper in the streets of Whitechapel. A couple of examples are below.
I don't remember reading anything about mounted patrols being used during the murders - any information on this please? Were mounted police used to huint the Ripper?

Chris G. · 11-05-2011, 08:32 AM

Hi Chris

I think this is total fantasy, though I reserve the right to be corrected! Certainly the first time I have heard of it. I would guess this is the director or writer's conception, to put the pursuing coppers on horseback, based on little research. By the way, from the title of the thread, I thought you meant Canadian Mounted Police!!!

All the best

Chris

Howard Brown · 11-05-2011, 08:36 AM

Chris,CG...

I think this is also the only Ripper related film which suggests mounted police as well. Likewise, I might have overlooked an instance, but I believe this is the only one.
For those who haven't seen the film Chris Scott is referring to : The Lodger, 1944, directed by John Brahm, starring Laird Cregar.

Monty · 11-05-2011, 12:02 PM

Hi Chris,

My understanding is the Mounted division was used to maintain crowd order and disperse disorderly crowds. They most certainly were not used on beat patrol in Whitechapel and City.

They were used in the more rural areas but the Met then, as now, had to consider costs and those with long beats out in the sticks were handed bicycles.

The only reference I can recall mounted police being used in regards to Jack was during the funeral processions and during, I think, crowd control in Dorset street.

Monty

Dave James · 11-06-2011, 06:36 AM

Hi all,

Probably not relevant, but the Victorian painter William Logsdale shows mounted police in at least two of his paintings, 'St Martin's-in-the-Field, 1888' and 'Sir James Whitehead's Procession, 1888".

http://blog.tate.org.uk/tate-tales/?p=32

http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpainti...ber-1888-51266

11-05-2011, 07:52 AM	#1
Chris Scott Author & Researcher Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,340	Mounted Police in 1888 - a query I have recently acquired a copy of a Ripper documentary entitled "The Monster Within and Among Us: The Jack the Ripper Case." Bizarrely this is part of a 10 part series called "America's Serial Killers." This Ripper documentary features long sections from the 1944 version of the Lodger in which there are a number of scenes of mounted policemen chasing the Ripper in the streets of Whitechapel. A couple of examples are below. I don't remember reading anything about mounted patrols being used during the murders - any information on this please? Were mounted police used to huint the Ripper? Attached Images

11-05-2011, 08:32 AM	#2
Chris G. Editor,Ripperologist Magazine Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 8,969	Hi Chris I think this is total fantasy, though I reserve the right to be corrected! Certainly the first time I have heard of it. I would guess this is the director or writer's conception, to put the pursuing coppers on horseback, based on little research. By the way, from the title of the thread, I thought you meant Canadian Mounted Police!!! All the best Chris __________________ Christopher T. George Editor-at-Large, Ripperologist http://www.ripperologist.biz http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge http://christophertgeorge.blogspot.com

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Howard Brown Proprietor & Researcher Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Eagleville, Pennsylvania Posts: 39,329	Chris,CG... I think this is also the only Ripper related film which suggests mounted police as well. Likewise, I might have overlooked an instance, but I believe this is the only one. For those who haven't seen the film Chris Scott is referring to : The Lodger, 1944, directed by John Brahm, starring Laird Cregar. __________________ Individuals wishing to join JTRForums.Com should contact me at : Donston1888@aol.com *Quick link to the Complete A to Z* on Amazon below Search function in operation.** http://www.amazon.com/reader/1844547...der_1844547973

11-06-2011, 06:36 AM	#5
Dave James Researcher Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Halifax, West Yorkshire Posts: 584	Hi all, Probably not relevant, but the Victorian painter William Logsdale shows mounted police in at least two of his paintings, 'St Martin's-in-the-Field, 1888' and 'Sir James Whitehead's Procession, 1888". http://blog.tate.org.uk/tate-tales/?p=32 http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpainti...ber-1888-51266 __________________ Dave "From Hull, Hell and Halifax, Good Lord deliver us."

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11-05-2011, 12:02 PM	#4
Monty The Independent Genius Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,960	Hi Chris, My understanding is the Mounted division was used to maintain crowd order and disperse disorderly crowds. They most certainly were not used on beat patrol in Whitechapel and City. They were used in the more rural areas but the Met then, as now, had to consider costs and those with long beats out in the sticks were handed bicycles. The only reference I can recall mounted police being used in regards to Jack was during the funeral processions and during, I think, crowd control in Dorset street. Monty

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