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Stan Reid · 12-20-2009, 06:47 PM

Sometimes we don't really know what's meant so here's the place to make up our own case related dictionary.

Stan Reid · 12-20-2009, 06:58 PM

There seems to be some confusion regarding categories of multiple murders so here are my definitions that you can take or leave and with an example:

Mass Murder: A number of people killed by a single action - Tim McVeigh

Cluster Murder: A number of people killed in one location in a brief period of time from multiple actions - James Huberty

Spree Murder: A number of people killed in different locations in a brief period of time - Charles Whitman

Serial Murder: A number of people killed in one location or different locations over a substantial period of time - Jeffrey Dahmer

Stan Reid · 12-20-2009, 07:12 PM

To clarify - by a number of people, I mean two or more and by a brief period of time, less than five weeks, thus, a substantial period of time being five or more weeks.

I realize that this is pretty inclusive.

admin tim · 12-20-2009, 07:13 PM

I think Charles Starkweather is really a better example than Charles Whitman.

Stan Reid · 12-20-2009, 07:16 PM

Perhaps but Whitman did kill earlier at home before going to the tower.

I might even call Starkweather a serial killer because he'd killed that guy the month before the rampage.

Magpie · 12-20-2009, 07:22 PM

Generally the serial murder definition contains a "cooling off" period of several days between each murder.

Stan Reid · 01-07-2010, 09:31 PM

Yes, that is true but I left it out because it always seemed to me that this required being able to read the killer's mind, at least to some degree - an inexact science at best. I agree that it's probably true in almost all cases.

Stan Reid · 01-20-2010, 11:13 AM

In Newton's The Encyclopedia of Serial Killers, they further divide serial killers into the categories of Stationary, Territorial and Nomadic based on their mobility. That's OK but I just stuck with the very basic.

Stan Reid · 02-09-2010, 07:51 PM

SK mobility examples would be:

Stationary-John R. H. Christie
Territorial-Jack the Ripper
Nomadic-Leonard E. Nelson

Stan Reid · 02-25-2010, 07:27 PM

There are several reasons why serial killers murder also. With the other multiple murderers, it's pretty much either to make a statement or because the perpetrator went berserk.

12-20-2009, 06:47 PM	#1
Stan Reid Researcher Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: McWopetaz Metroplex, Illinois U.S. of A. Posts: 2,356	Indefinite definitions Sometimes we don't really know what's meant so here's the place to make up our own case related dictionary. __________________ This is my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking. Stan

12-20-2009, 06:58 PM	#2
Stan Reid Researcher Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: McWopetaz Metroplex, Illinois U.S. of A. Posts: 2,356	There seems to be some confusion regarding categories of multiple murders so here are my definitions that you can take or leave and with an example: Mass Murder: A number of people killed by a single action - Tim McVeigh Cluster Murder: A number of people killed in one location in a brief period of time from multiple actions - James Huberty Spree Murder: A number of people killed in different locations in a brief period of time - Charles Whitman Serial Murder: A number of people killed in one location or different locations over a substantial period of time - Jeffrey Dahmer __________________ This is my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking. Stan

12-20-2009, 07:12 PM	#3
Stan Reid Researcher Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: McWopetaz Metroplex, Illinois U.S. of A. Posts: 2,356	To clarify - by a number of people, I mean two or more and by a brief period of time, less than five weeks, thus, a substantial period of time being five or more weeks. I realize that this is pretty inclusive. __________________ This is my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking. Stan

12-20-2009, 07:16 PM	#5
Stan Reid Researcher Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: McWopetaz Metroplex, Illinois U.S. of A. Posts: 2,356	Perhaps but Whitman did kill earlier at home before going to the tower. I might even call Starkweather a serial killer because he'd killed that guy the month before the rampage. __________________ This is my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking. Stan

12-20-2009, 07:22 PM	#6
Magpie Researcher Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,043	Generally the serial murder definition contains a "cooling off" period of several days between each murder. __________________ "Magpie, for a "brilliant researcher" such as yourself, you still have alot [sic] to learn." Karen Trenouth

12-20-2009, 07:13 PM	#4
admin tim Administrator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 6,477	I think Charles Starkweather is really a better example than Charles Whitman.

01-07-2010, 09:31 PM	#7
Stan Reid Researcher Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: McWopetaz Metroplex, Illinois U.S. of A. Posts: 2,356	Yes, that is true but I left it out because it always seemed to me that this required being able to read the killer's mind, at least to some degree - an inexact science at best. I agree that it's probably true in almost all cases. __________________ This is my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking. Stan

01-20-2010, 11:13 AM	#8
Stan Reid Researcher Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: McWopetaz Metroplex, Illinois U.S. of A. Posts: 2,356	In Newton's The Encyclopedia of Serial Killers, they further divide serial killers into the categories of Stationary, Territorial and Nomadic based on their mobility. That's OK but I just stuck with the very basic. __________________ This is my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking. Stan

02-09-2010, 07:51 PM	#9
Stan Reid Researcher Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: McWopetaz Metroplex, Illinois U.S. of A. Posts: 2,356	SK mobility examples would be: Stationary-John R. H. Christie Territorial-Jack the Ripper Nomadic-Leonard E. Nelson __________________ This is my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking. Stan

02-25-2010, 07:27 PM	#10
Stan Reid Researcher Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: McWopetaz Metroplex, Illinois U.S. of A. Posts: 2,356	There are several reasons why serial killers murder also. With the other multiple murderers, it's pretty much either to make a statement or because the perpetrator went berserk. __________________ This is my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking. Stan

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