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In light of recent, and often farcical, attempts at plotting JtR and his motions I am starting this thread.
The general (at least on these websites) perception seems to be that JtR was some kind of hunter. By this I mean venturing out at night or whenever with the express intention of bagging himself a whore (hereafter referred to as "hunter").
Based on that, people then think they can do calculations and plotting and so on in some attempt at finding the most likely location from where this hunter ventured out. And from this sort of stuff we end up with the usual "local/non-local" "toff", "MO" "profiling" guff.
On some level it is reasonable to think he was a "hunter" given that his victims were virtually part of a flock and he seemed to select the weakest, those who were drunk, desperate or sick. In similar vein to any hunting type activity.
And then there is loads of bilking about indoors/outdoors, MO, etc etc.
Alternatively and perhaps more logically is that JtR was NOT a hunter and was, up unto a certain point, a fairly normal individual who was on the streets for reasons other than hunting. Such as drinking, shoppoing, going to work etc.
At some point the whores interacted with him and a chain of events was set in process resulting in their deaths.
This is supported to a greater extent than the hunting noyion by a number of facts:
1. The victims chose the location. What hunter allows the prey to decide?
2. The locations chosen were not optimal for hunting purposes. What sort of hunter decides to eat his prey in a spot where he himself may be eaten (caught)?
3. The victims were exactly the ones most likely to approach our fairly nonplussed killer. They were drunk or desperate (even for whores) and actively seeking custom. Exactly the sorts who would be approaching men on the street. Except Stride perhaps. Make of that what you will.
4. There is no rhyme or reason to the killings. One indoors, some outdoors, some secluded, some virtually on the street, etc. This is largely because he wasnt hunting, had no particular means of catching victims and didnt think at all about how he was going to kill someone or what he would do after.
5. Some women were completely hacked up, some werent. Largely because as a non hunter he had not chosen spots based on chances of discovery or how long he would have...the locations and times were solely dependant on chance, where the whores brought him and had no forethought whats so ever.
A lot indicates a non-hunting killer and very little indicates a preplanned hunting type of activity.
We hear a lot about "profiling" and so on but what strikes one most in the recollections of less famous serial killers is the complete happenstance of the killings. They did not set out to kill anyone and just a combination of circumstances led to the event happening.
Much like our chap.
When one gets over the misconception that our man was some kind of predator.....then one can begin to accept the logic that does not necessitate fallacies of the kind that he must have been a local with a hunting ground, or that he was from Whitechapel because thats where he confined himself, or that he had some kind of centrally located bolthole, or that he was looking for victims, or that Kelly was some kind of ultimate fantasy for him, or that the extent of mutilations indicate some kind of progression etc etc.
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In light of recent, and often farcical, attempts at plotting JtR and his motions I am starting this thread.
The general (at least on these websites) perception seems to be that JtR was some kind of hunter. By this I mean venturing out at night or whenever with the express intention of bagging himself a whore (hereafter referred to as "hunter").
Based on that, people then think they can do calculations and plotting and so on in some attempt at finding the most likely location from where this hunter ventured out. And from this sort of stuff we end up with the usual "local/non-local" "toff", "MO" "profiling" guff.
On some level it is reasonable to think he was a "hunter" given that his victims were virtually part of a flock and he seemed to select the weakest, those who were drunk, desperate or sick. In similar vein to any hunting type activity.
And then there is loads of bilking about indoors/outdoors, MO, etc etc.
Alternatively and perhaps more logically is that JtR was NOT a hunter and was, up unto a certain point, a fairly normal individual who was on the streets for reasons other than hunting. Such as drinking, shoppoing, going to work etc.
At some point the whores interacted with him and a chain of events was set in process resulting in their deaths.
This is supported to a greater extent than the hunting noyion by a number of facts:
1. The victims chose the location. What hunter allows the prey to decide?
2. The locations chosen were not optimal for hunting purposes. What sort of hunter decides to eat his prey in a spot where he himself may be eaten (caught)?
3. The victims were exactly the ones most likely to approach our fairly nonplussed killer. They were drunk or desperate (even for whores) and actively seeking custom. Exactly the sorts who would be approaching men on the street. Except Stride perhaps. Make of that what you will.
4. There is no rhyme or reason to the killings. One indoors, some outdoors, some secluded, some virtually on the street, etc. This is largely because he wasnt hunting, had no particular means of catching victims and didnt think at all about how he was going to kill someone or what he would do after.
5. Some women were completely hacked up, some werent. Largely because as a non hunter he had not chosen spots based on chances of discovery or how long he would have...the locations and times were solely dependant on chance, where the whores brought him and had no forethought whats so ever.
A lot indicates a non-hunting killer and very little indicates a preplanned hunting type of activity.
We hear a lot about "profiling" and so on but what strikes one most in the recollections of less famous serial killers is the complete happenstance of the killings. They did not set out to kill anyone and just a combination of circumstances led to the event happening.
Much like our chap.
When one gets over the misconception that our man was some kind of predator.....then one can begin to accept the logic that does not necessitate fallacies of the kind that he must have been a local with a hunting ground, or that he was from Whitechapel because thats where he confined himself, or that he had some kind of centrally located bolthole, or that he was looking for victims, or that Kelly was some kind of ultimate fantasy for him, or that the extent of mutilations indicate some kind of progression etc etc.
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..thats for you.
) We dont know jack had murder in his mind when he set out on those nights. As you have said before something might have set off a chain of events in seconds. .....an unpremeditated explosion.Maybe an invasion of personal space issue, None of the sites seem a part of a LOGICAL plan.Im sure he could have found many safer (from his point of view) locations.
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