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Old November 20th, 2012, 10:03 PM   #1
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Old November 21st, 2012, 05:40 AM   #2
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Roy:

That map is so old that the Thames was spring water then !
Thanks !
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Old November 21st, 2012, 10:23 AM   #3
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I would be very curious to see a similar Limehouse map from around 1888. This is where Emma Smith and Margaret Hames were alleged to have gone on Emma's last night, and Emma was last seen at the corner of Farrance Street. Assuming this story is true, I'd be curious to know the pubs immediate to that location, though I don't think it would have any bearing on her murder.

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Okay, Tom. Emma Smith had been last seen by Margaret Hames at 12:15 that Tuesday morning at the corner of Farrance Street and Burdett Road, Limehouse (Red Star) talking to a man who wore dark clothes and a white scarf. Nearby was the Silver Tavern at Burdett and Dod Street. The Duke of York was at Dod and Silver St.

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There was a Police Station at 15 Pigott Street, in Blue. The Pigott Arms and the Eastern Hotel occupied the corners. On Commercial Road, the way back to Whitechapel, was the Star of the East pictured.

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Old November 22nd, 2012, 02:17 AM   #5
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Hi Roy, thanks very much for that. Had you already done all this research or was it that easy for you to whip it up that quick?

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Ditto to what Tom said, Roy...thanks a lot.
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Old November 23rd, 2012, 01:46 PM   #7
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Census (click) of Mr. Baxter, publican of The Star of the East

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Hi Roy, thanks very much for that. Had you already done all this research or was it that easy for you to whip it up that quick?
Thank you, Tom. I purchased that 1894 OS map of Stepney/Limehouse a couple years ago and your question gave me an opportunity to apply it to something. The street directory was used. A snippet of Burdett Road -

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Old November 25th, 2012, 08:48 PM   #8
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1954 photo of the corner of Farrance Street and Burdett Road, Limehouse. Courtesy of Rob Clack

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Wow, thanks for the visual, Roy. It's possible now to imagine the scene that Margaret Hames described.

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The Eastern - on the corner of East India and West India Dock Roads was later called 'The Londoner'. In that guise I went there a few times in the 1980s but it was pulled down as part of a road widening scheme connected with the Docklands Redevelopment. It was quite a big impressive pub and was a bit of a landmark.
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