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Old September 25th, 2009, 07:43 AM   #1
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I think you can“t compare Heydrich to a normal serial killer. As far as I think it not unlikely for someone to be on the one side caring and loving and on the other sidea brutal killer, the differences between the murderers of the the NS-regime and normal serial killers cannot be overlooked. The NS-regime gave people a power over other people many of them have never had. You could do anything with someone who was a jew and the society was telling you to kill them, to see them as animals even. So the urge to live your killing phantasies was much easier and socially accepted, whereas a serial killer is confronted with the fear of detection and the wrath of society, so the possiility of someone starting to kill is not as high as doing that when society tells you it is good. Everyone knows that even normal people can become very cruel in war or when they get power over the lives of others.
The events in Whitechapel could easily be slotted into the "Outcast London" theme. They reinforced prevailing prejudices about the East End as a strange territory of savages, a social abyss, an inferno. The Times might well wring its hands about the responsibility of "our social organization" for spawning the crimes, but this momentary soul-searching was readily domesticated into an attack on the symptoms, rather than the causes, of urban poverty. Throughout the autumn of terror, one theme overshadowed all the other proposals to cure the social ills of Whitechapel: the necessity of slum clearance and the need to clear the lawless population of the common lodging houses from the neighbourhood. "Those of us who know Whitechapel know that the impulse that makes for murder is abroad in our streets every night," declared two Toynbee Hall residents. The "disorderly and depraved lives of the women," observed Canon Barnett were more "appaling" than the actual murders. Men like Barnett finally dominated public opinion and consolidated it behind razing the common lodging houses of the Flower and Dean street area. The notoriety impelled the respectable owners - the Henderson family - to sell their property as soon as the leases were up. The Rotschild Buildings (1892), for respectable jewish artisans and their families, appeared over the lodging houses were Catherine Eddowes and Elizabeth Stride once lived. Prostitutes and their fellow lodgers were thus rendered homeless and forced to migrate to the few remaining rough streets in the neighborhood. Through the surveillance of the vigilance commitees and through this "urban renewal", the murders helped to intensify repressive activity already under way in the Whitechapel area.

City of dreadful delight: narratives of sexual danger in late-Victorian London ...
By Judith R. Walkowitz

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The Times, 19 September 1888. Editorial

The forcible letter which we printed yesterday from "S.G.O.," on the lessons of the Whitechapel horrors, was not likely long to stand alone. It has, indeed, straightway called forth a very pertinent communication, which will be found in another column, from the Rev. S. A. BARNETT, the well-known Vicar of St. Jude's, Whitechapel. "S.G.O." deals with the general question of the correlation between vicious social conditions and such crimes as those which have lately stricken the East-end with terror, while MR. BARNETT points the application to Whitechapel in particular. We are too apt to assume that such crimes as these are altogether abnormal. We attribute them to some enlarged maniac with homicidal tendencies, or to some monster in human shape who has contracted a fiendish taste for blood and butchery. It would be salve to our complacency if this were really the case. "S.G.O.," however, forbids us to lay this flattering unction to our souls. He is a social student of life-long experience. He tells us that we have sown the seed and must expect to reap the harvest. "At last," he says, the crop is ripening; at last we are beginning to see what is the meaning and result of the existence in our midst of "tens of thousands of our fellow creatures begotten and reared in an atmosphere of godless brutality, a species of human sewage, the very drainage of the vilest productions of ordinary vice." The language is strong, no doubt, but the facts upon which it is founded are, unhappily, even stronger. MR. BARNETT, than whom there is no better authority, does not affect to dispute them. We seem to have listlessly acquiesced in the existence of these kitchen-middens of humanity; to have treated them as though society must keep a receptacle for the collection of its waste material. We have long ago learned that neglected organic refuse breeds pestilence. Can we doubt that neglected human refuse as inevitably breeds crime, and that crime reproduces itself like germs in an infected atmosphere, and becomes at each successive cultivation more deadly, more bestial, and more absolutely unrestrained?


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To the Editor of The Times.

Sir, - Whitechapel horrors will not be in vain if "at last" the public conscience awakes to consider the life which these horrors reveal. The murders were, it may almost be said, bound to come; generation could not follow generation in lawless intercourse, children could not be familiarized with scenes of degradation, community in crime could not be the bond of society and the end of all be peace.

Some of us who, during many years, have known the life of our neighbours do not think the murders to be the worst fact in our experience, and published evidence now gives material for forming a picture of daily or nightly life such as no one has imagined.

It is for those who, like ourselves, have for years known these things to be ready with practical suggestions, and I would now put some forward as the best outcome of the thought of my wife and myself. Before doing so, it is necessary to remind the public that these criminal haunts are of limited extent. The greater part of Whitechapel is as orderly as any part of London, and the life of most of its inhabitants is more moral than that of many whose vices are hidden by greater wealth. Within the area of a quarter of a mile most of the evil may be found concentrated, and it ought not to be impossible to deal with it strongly and adequately. We would submit four practical suggestions. (...)


SAMUEL A. BARNETT.
St. Jude's Vicarage, Whitechapel, Sept. 18.


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Old September 26th, 2009, 12:30 AM   #2
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Thanks to the Leone film link....I don't remember even hearing of the film.

Now if I understood Italian, I'd be in great shape...but the film looks appealing. Anything with Rod Steiger is usually top notch,
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Old September 26th, 2009, 06:22 AM   #3
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I guess this film may be better known as 'Duck, You Sucker', or 'A Fistful Of Dynamite', also called 'Once Upon A Time... The Revolution'. In some versions as much as half an hour was cut from the original. Not sure if the clip I posted a link to was included in the US release. There is a restored version available on DVD.

In that stagecoach scene one of the passengers mentions General Huerta. The film is dated to about the time of the Mexican Revolution of 1910. I guess that could make it, in a sense, late-late Victorian. The Times editorial just made me think of that scene, inside the stagecoach.
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MURDER AS AN ADVERTISEMENT

There have been many theories about the Whitechapel murders, but so far no one has propounded as the most probable hypothesis the theory that they are the work of a Scientific Humanitarian. We may be in the presence of a Sociologist Pasteur, capable of taking a scientific survey of the condition of society, and absolutely indifferent to the sufferings of the individual so long as he benefited the community at large. We have yet to witness the evolution of the scientific Sociological Jesuit. His advent, however, cannot be long delayed. We have been expecting him for some time. Who knows but he is already in our midst in Whitechapel? etc.

Pall Mall Gazette, 19 September 1888

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JESUIT''ICAL, a. Pertaining to the Jesuits or their principles and arts. 1. Designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating.

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