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Old April 6th, 2015, 05:07 PM   #1
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Default "J. W. B.", The Noisy Hens, and Dr. Tumblety

An example of what and why I started this Forum.

I located this a couple of years ago...and its still on The Forums.

While looking for articles from May of 1889, I came upon this one once again....and this time I noticed something I didn't the first time.

Recently, I found an article from 1914 in which a police official mentioned the relationship between Dr. Tumblety and John Wilkes Booth. Although the idea has been around a while, I have not seen any articles which would seem to confirm this relationship...until I found that 1914 article in the Buffalo press.....

Anyway....as I read this article from the Herald once again....I noticed the initials of the person who sent in the complaint to the New York Board Of Health.
There was no one in the building with those initials.....but Tumblety was there.
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Old April 6th, 2015, 08:24 PM   #2
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Anyone think that the author of the letter to the BoH was who it claimed to be from ?

Or was it, as I think, from Tumblety himself ?

Using the word 'pecuniary' or 'clamoring' in a letter to complain about noisy parrots in a tenement seems more up his alley than anyone elses......
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Old April 7th, 2015, 01:45 PM   #3
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Anyone think that the author of the letter to the BoH was who it claimed to be from ?

Or was it, as I think, from Tumblety himself ?

Using the word 'pecuniary' or 'clamoring' in a letter to complain about noisy parrots in a tenement seems more up his alley than anyone elses......
I think you are right.

The use of cosmetics intrigues me as well.
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Old April 7th, 2015, 02:47 PM   #4
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Hi Howard

The "J.W.B" might be mere coincidence. Dr. Tumblety of course didn't have a "sick and very delicate child" living with him.

If, however, Dr. T did write the note his use of the initials "J.W.B." might have been a sly way to imply that he might assassinate the offending birds if the noise continued, as also the mention of the ill child might have been a way to defray any suspicion that he wrote the letter.

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Thanks for the responses, fellas.
He sure took a nose dive in early 1889....living in a tenement and not in one of his 5 star accomodations.

Come to think of it....why is that ? Why isn't he living at a hotel ?
Laying low after the hoopla of late 1888 ?
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Thanks for the responses, fellas.
He sure took a nose dive in early 1889....living in a tenement and not in one of his 5 star accomodations.

Come to think of it....why is that ? Why isn't he living at a hotel ?
Laying low after the hoopla of late 1888 ?
I think it's true that he often lived in lodgings rather than a hotel. When he lived in Baltimore at the time of the 1900 U.S. census he lived in a lodging house at the corner of Clay and N. Liberty Streets, shown below as the location looks today, opposite Charles Center in downtown Baltimore. Incidentally, Clay Street was a notorious red light district in the 19th Century and there was a major fire on the street in 1873.

Of course it could also be that living in hotels was a characteristic of Dr. T's earlier flamboyant career and that in old age he tended to prefer lodging houses.

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You're right, CG...I know about and yet forgot about Mrs. Macnamara's house, too.

But those places seem a few steps up from the place described in the Herald article.
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Tumblety didn't seem to stay at this address (No. 23 Stuyvesant Street) for very long. Less than three weeks later he was living at 82 Clinton Place.

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Thanks Wolf...
Do you remember whether you put the 23 Stuyvesant Street address in any of the Ripper Notes Tumblety articles ?
I figured I'd ask because if you saw this Herald article before I posted it, I wanted to make sure you got the credit.
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Three views of 23 Stuyvesant Street in NYC's East Village

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