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Old March 25th, 2017, 01:20 PM   #1
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Default Betsy Dyson: Suspicious Bolton Death Feb 20 1888

I'm surprised no one has done this before but I've ordered the death certificate of Betsy Dyson.

And I've contacted the Bolton Library for local articles about the suspicious death.

Something to look forward to.
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I'm surprised no one has done this before but I've ordered the death certificate of Betsy Dyson.

And I've contacted the Bolton Library for local articles about the suspicious death.

Something to look forward to.
It was thought to be a poisoning, but the pathologist couldn't identify the poison, so the coroner directed the jury to return an open verdict.
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Old April 5th, 2017, 11:06 PM   #3
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I would be interested to know if there was an autopsy and why doctors believed the death was unnatural and by poisoning. She could have had one of the many unknown, undiagnosable, untreatable diseases of the day and simply succumbed. Rheumatism, cough and then vomiting? Could she have been allergic to whatever was in the cough medicine? But like you suggest, maybe something was scraped off the fly paper and put into the bottle of cough syrup.
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Okay I've picked up the Diary book to look at the Diary text. There is usually a line between the entries when there's a gap of several weeks and this gap doesn't have one but I don't think it matters. He could have said "summer is near" at the end of February.

Shirley Harrison says it was probably around March (probably because it was "cold and wet") and James had gone to visit his brother Thomas in Moss Side, Manchester, as he writes that he is doing well.

Wouldn't he have visited on a weekend? That makes a Sunday night murder more likely, following his visit? Farnworth would have been on a direct north railway line from Moss Side and only about 15 kilometers away.
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Okay, Betsy Dyson died on the 12th of February according to a March Manchester Courier article. It wasn't the 20th as I wrote in the title.

The death certificate says it was the 11th but that was a Saturday and all accounts say it was a Sunday so the certificate was off by a day, most likely.

The 20th was a Monday. Must have been trying to push the death closer to March because Shirley Harrison said it was probably March and closer to spring because the diary goes on to say summer is close.

Missed the first week of press reports, it seems. Have to go back.
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The last person who I know that died in Bolton is Sam Allardyce.... Oh wait! You aren't talking about footie....!!!!



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Allardyce....Dyson....eerie....
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Allardyce....Dyson....eerie....
Slicing and dicing....

Indeed!
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