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Old March 20th, 2011, 12:30 PM   #1
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Default James Blenkinsop- Cleveland Street Asylum

The Star introduced James Blenkingsop as a watchman where some street improvements were taking place.

There`s a chap in the 1891 Census who gives his occupation as Engineer-Fitter. This gentleman was 54 yrs old, and from Cumberland. He is an inmate at Cleveland Street Asylum, he would die there two years later.

I can only find two Blenkingsop`s in the London area of the right age to be working in 1888, the other being a Barrister of Law.

I think the Engineer-Fitter is our witness.

Does anyone think that I`m stretching it a bit with an Engineer-Fitter, which does sound very grandiose, being a "watchman" ?

It is worth noting that his fellow inmates at the Asylum all seem to be of the same class; labourer, porter.

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Interesting Jon,

Nightwatchmen covered a multitude of tasks. Let me have a gander before I comment more.

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Jon:

Excellent work,old man.
I'd be interested to see what Blenkingsop was institutionalized for,Jon.

For those who don't know, Blenkingsop claimed ( The Star,October 1st) to have been approached by a "respectably dressed man" during nightwork in St. James Place and asked whether he had seen "a man and woman go through here..." about 1:30 A.M. on the night of the Double Event.
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So far as I can make out, this man was a tailor in 1881.
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Jon:

Is there a way of checking the Cleveland Street asylum records ?
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Well an Engine Fitter installed engines Jon.

An Engineer covered a multitude of tasks from Roadmaker to Steam Train Driver. And a fitter just put pieces of engines together.

Make of that what you wish.

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Monty, he couldn't be something to do with the fire engine, could he?
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For those who don't know, Blenkingsop claimed ( The Star,October 1st) to have been approached by a "respectably dressed man" during nightwork in St. James Place and asked whether he had seen "a man and woman go through here..." about 1:30 A.M. on the night of the Double Event.
Leading some (or one at least) to speculate that "respectably dressed" might have been someone, perhaps an undercover policeman, who was following Eddowes, either with or without her knowledge, for the purpose of drawing out the killer and that he had unfortunately lost sight of the pair.
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The Star introduced James Blenkingsop as a watchman where some street improvements were taking place.

There`s a chap in the 1891 Census who gives his occupation as Engineer-Fitter. This gentleman was 54 yrs old, and from Cumberland. He is an inmate at Cleveland Street Asylum, he would die there two years later.

I can only find two Blenkingsop`s in the London area of the right age to be working in 1888, the other being a Barrister of Law.

I think the Engineer-Fitter is our witness.

Does anyone think that I`m stretching it a bit with an Engineer-Fitter, which does sound very grandiose, being a "watchman" ?

It is worth noting that his fellow inmates at the Asylum all seem to be of the same class; labourer, porter.

Thanks
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I have been doing some family research and James Blenkinsop - the Barrister - is my gggg grandfather...he also had a son called James Blenkinsop who was in the same profession.

I had come across the case on another site a while ago and wondered if it had anything to do with my blenkinsop. Guess its not him.
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I had come across the case on another site a while ago and wondered if it had anything to do with my Blenkinsop. Guess its not him.

Small world,ain't it Caroline ?
I have a great grandfather who was a D.A. in my hometown.
Thanks for pitching in........I hope Jon can run down the reason this Blenkingsop was sent to C.S.Asylum.
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