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At least there were prints in the cases of Texarkana and Zodiac, Dahlia too if you count the letter, so that should quell some of the cross-referencing.
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In 1938, a man named Emil Fronek told investigators that he'd been befriended in late 1935, when he was homeless, by a man claiming to be a doctor. The man took Fronek to "his office" with a promise of food and some shoes. After he ate, Mr. Fronek realized that he'd been drugged and bolted before he passed out. He said that he later ran into another vagrant who'd had a similar experience with a man whose description matched. This person, very possibly the killer, did not fit the description of any of the named suspects. Wilson was way too young and Johnson was the wrong race. Dolezal and Sweeney matched those two but not other elements. The "doctor" was much smaller than Sweeney and not swarthy looking like Dolezal. It's also hard to imagine a down-and-out like Dolezal having access to any kind of office. Fronek was unable to find the location.
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Wouldn't Sweeney have been well enough known that he'd have been recognized by many while he was prowling in bum town? He was a doctor and the relative of a Congressman.
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Alternate names for suspects:
1-Frank Dolezal-Know of none 2-Francis Sweeney-Perhaps the person Eliot Ness called Gaylord Sundheim 3-Willie Johnson-None I have seen 4-Jack Anderson Wilson-Jack H. Wilson, Arnold Smith, Jack Olsen, Hanns Anderson Von Cannon, Jack A. Taylor, John D. Ryan, Eugene Deavilen, Jack McCurry, Grover Loving Jr., Grover Loving Wilson, Jack Anderson McGray-He also tried to blame the Dahlia murder on a person named Al Morrison who some thought was actually him
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Many years ago, I read The Untouchables by Elliot Ness and Oscar Fraley but don't remember too much about it. Has anyone read Oscar Fraley's Four Against the Mob? I was wondering if it had any insight regarding this case and Ness' suspect.
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Hi Stan If the speculation is that the Cleveland Torso murderer and the Black Dahlia killer were one and the same, it would appear to me that the Cleveland killer's big thing was head removal. Elizabeth Short's body was cut in two and her face mutilated but her head was not removed. Chris
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Regarding the Cleveland/Dahlia suspect Wilson, his mother's last name was Buchanan and she was not married when he was born so perhaps Jack Buchanan should also be listed as one of his alternate names. Maybe that's where the Cannon name came from. His father's last name was originally listed as Loving on his Birth Certificate but that was later scratched out and changed to Wilson.
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