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Old 06-02-2010, 07:20 PM   #1
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Australians learned of the Berner St/Mitre Square murders rather quickly.
This report mentions doubts expressed in London as to the linking of Stride's murder to Eddowes or prior victims.


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I neglected to mention that the previous post was a cable report that the West Australian featured.
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I have long believed the Stride was a domestic, rather than a Ripper, killing.
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I have long believed the Stride was a domestic, rather than a Ripper, killing.

Now you're talking, Tel! I'm with ya on that one!

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Australians learned of the Berner St/Mitre Square murders rather quickly.
This report mentions doubts expressed in London as to the linking of Stride's murder to Eddowes or prior victims.
Note how the geographic location of the Mitre Square victim (Eddowes) is completely screwed up as reported:

"at the junction of Leadenhall and Fenchurch streets"

-- a good example as to why we should not believe everything that appears in newspaper reports.

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-- a good example as to why we should not believe everything that appears in newspaper reports.

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Here here!, especially as things seem to be reported today, with a decided bent towards sensationalism, and the facts be d**ned! But, the more that I read, I see that's likely always been the case.

I lean toward Stride being a domestic simply because ones spouse (shack-up) is generally the first place one looks in such cases...with good reason, as 2004 figures show that (in the US) females murdered, are killed by intimates 30% of the time! (http://www.benbest.com/lifeext/murder.html#circumstance). Kidney, in my opinion, was not honest either about the date he and Stride split, nor the row between them, which she discussed with a peer. Wolf's supposition that she was out on a "date" the evening prior to her murder seems plausible, given her care for her dress and actions with the gentleman she was seen with...and Kidney, perhaps following her out of jealousy and killing her in a fit of passion seems plausible to me as well...

At any rate, I have not discovered anything to completely disprove the theory as yet, so I'll stick to it for now.

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Hello gjcab09

Michael Kidney has always seemed to me to be an "easy mark" as the fall guy for Stride's murder. If he was unclear about the date when the couple split up that could have been because he was a drinker. He appeared drunk at the coroner's inquest. What marks this murder as being of a piece with the other canonicals is the deep neck cut. Also don't you think, given that most murders were domestic crimes, that the police would have considered that? P.C. Plod might have been slow about such things but the coppers were, after all, more deeply involved in investigating murder than the people who study these murders.

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Old 06-03-2010, 11:55 AM   #8
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Hi Chris,

It's precisely the fact that Kidney is an "easy mark" that makes me suspect him. Sometimes the obvious answer is the correct one.

Granted the cops at the time knew much more about the case than I ever will, and may have had good reason to discount Kidney's involvement. They are, however, human, and have been known to bungle the odd job, now and again. I also think that it's slightly possible that, due to the notoriety of the WM at that time, the police investigators may have overlooked the obvious in their efforts to stamp "solved" on the whole lot.

All supposition, I admit, and if I find something conclusively clearing Kidney of the deed, I'll have to look somewhere else for Stride's killer.

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Hi Cab. You should read my essay, 'Exonerating Michael Kidney'. It pretty well does away with the reasons you and others have given for suspecting Kidney of Stride's murder. PM me with your e-mail and I'll be happy to send it to you.
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