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  • #31
    It’s great the police are involved in the exhumation. Our top John Doe was exhumed by a production company and they never put the DNA up for familial DNA testing. I guess they wanted more views of the documentary so put it up only for direct one to one testing which never got a positive match, but does allow for continued crowd sourcing.

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    • #32
      The BBC reports that the exhumation is under way:
      "On Wednesday, crews began digging at the gravesite.
      But local media outlet Nine News reported initial efforts were moving slower than expected due to dense clay and uncertainty as to whether the man had been buried in a coffin."

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-57166662

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      • #33
        Reporting of the exhumation was subject to some very lazy journalism here Chris. One TV news program twice referring. the SM as 'the body that washed up on the beach! Perhaps they might be under the erroneous impression that the fully clothed 'dry' corpse has been murdered elsewhere and dumped there? Never let the facts get in the way of a good Story, eh? As for the possibility of an empty coffin, well that's a novel twist and certainly a waste of tax payers money having the poor chap embalmed



        j have always been intrigued about why the body was preserved after autopsy and who might have sanctioned the decision.?
        Apologies for the typos ( edited). Cataracts short of fixed, new spectacles for computer needed urgently.

        Be nice to one another!
        Merv

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        • #34
          There’s an episode of History’s Greatest Mysteries on this case (hosted by Lawrence Fishburne) on Sky History - series 1 episode 4 - I have it recorded but haven’t watched it yet.
          Regards

          Michael🔎


          " When you eliminate the impossible whatever remains no matter how improbable......is probably a little bit boring "

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Michael Banks View Post
            There’s an episode of History’s Greatest Mysteries on this case (hosted by Lawrence Fishburne) on Sky History - series 1 episode 4 - I have it recorded but haven’t watched it yet.
            I'm very surprised that no information seems to have been released about the progress of testing. It's been more than a year since the exhumation.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Chris Phillips View Post

              I'm very surprised that no information seems to have been released about the progress of testing. It's been more than a year since the exhumation.
              I just watched the documentary Chris and it’s certainly worth a watch. It’s an interesting case which I knew next to nothing about. I checked online for books on the case and only came across three.

              A 2012 book by Kerry Greenwood which had mixed (to say the least) reviews.
              A 2022 25 page book by Dr. Michael Hoffmann who claims to have decoded the letters. No reviews on this one.
              A 2017 book by GM Feltus which has much better reviews but is currently on sale on Amazon for £592. AbeBooks have a copy for £1614! and a ‘cheap’ copy for a mere £224. So I’ll let you buy that one first Chris.



              Regards

              Michael🔎


              " When you eliminate the impossible whatever remains no matter how improbable......is probably a little bit boring "

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Michael Banks View Post

                I just watched the documentary Chris and it’s certainly worth a watch. It’s an interesting case which I knew next to nothing about. I checked online for books on the case and only came across three.

                A 2012 book by Kerry Greenwood which had mixed (to say the least) reviews.
                A 2022 25 page book by Dr. Michael Hoffmann who claims to have decoded the letters. No reviews on this one.
                A 2017 book by GM Feltus which has much better reviews but is currently on sale on Amazon for £592. AbeBooks have a copy for £1614! and a ‘cheap’ copy for a mere £224. So I’ll let you buy that one first Chris.


                I am pleased to say that I already have a copy!

                I have just phoned the bank and arranged for it to be put into their safekeeping ...

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Chris Phillips View Post

                  I am pleased to say that I already have a copy!

                  I have just phoned the bank and arranged for it to be put into their safekeeping ...
                  Let me know when you next go on holiday and leave the house unattended Chris.

                  Is it worth getting by the way (if I can find a copy that I don’t need to sell a kidney in order to afford?)
                  Regards

                  Michael🔎


                  " When you eliminate the impossible whatever remains no matter how improbable......is probably a little bit boring "

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Michael Banks View Post

                    Let me know when you next go on holiday and leave the house unattended Chris.

                    Is it worth getting by the way (if I can find a copy that I don’t need to sell a kidney in order to afford?)
                    I'm not an expert on the case, but this was recommended to me as the best book to read by John Ruffels, who does know a lot about it.It does seem very comprehensive.

                    Actually, my book is the 2010 edition, not the 2017 one. Looking at the author's website, it seems that in 2017 after two printings he decided not to print any more. It's a shame, particularly as there was also an ebook. Perhaps bootleg copies of that are available somewhere.
                    http://www.theunknownman.com/news.html

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Chris Phillips View Post

                      I'm not an expert on the case, but this was recommended to me as the best book to read by John Ruffels, who does know a lot about it.It does seem very comprehensive.

                      Actually, my book is the 2010 edition, not the 2017 one. Looking at the author's website, it seems that in 2017 after two printings he decided not to print any more. It's a shame, particularly as there was also an ebook. Perhaps bootleg copies of that are available somewhere.
                      http://www.theunknownman.com/news.html
                      Maybe I’ll have some luck one day Chris. I’ll keep looking. It’s surprising that such an interesting case has only 2 full length books
                      Regards

                      Michael🔎


                      " When you eliminate the impossible whatever remains no matter how improbable......is probably a little bit boring "

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                      • #41
                        Somerton Man identified as Melbourne electrical engineer, researcher says

                        A researcher in the case of the Somerton Man says he has solved the decades-old mystery, identifying the figure as a Melbourne-born electrical engineer.
                        Adelaide University researcher Derek Abbott believes the unknown man found slumped and lifeless at Adelaide's Somerton Beach on December 1, 1948, was Carl "Charles" Webb, a 43-year-old engineer and instrument maker.
                        https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-...says/101272182

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Markus Aurelius Franzoi View Post
                          Thanks for that. I was expecting something directly related to the exhumation, but apparently that is a report of a parallel line of investigation.

                          I'm mystified that there has still been no news of the outcome of the exhumation. Does anyone have any idea why the long delay?

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                          • #43
                            The police can only see the profiles of people who consent now. I don't think Professor Abbot had the same restriction. Covid protocols may have delayed things too.

                            This ID came as a result of the hair samples taken from the bust. The police gave the professor the hair a decade ago, so he had a head start.

                            https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/26/austr...dst/index.html

                            I have to say the ID is good because they triangulated it somehow with both sides of the family and he had a brother-in-law named T(homas) Keane like the name on his clothes. He had 3 living sisters though in Victoria who lived into the 50s and 60s yet they never came forward with an ID as far as I know (Ancestry Family Trees).

                            Robert Thompson's father (not Carl Webb, the Somerton Man) is now a complete question mark although we have the family tree from (Robert's daughter, the once presumptive granddaughter of Somerton Man) Rachel Egan's paternal DNA results (no longer presumptive, completely "unrelated").

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                            • #44
                              So the TSM now has a name. However, we still don't know why, how, or by whom he met his fate. !t seems that this revelation has created more questions than answers.
                              Be nice to one another!
                              Merv

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                              • #45
                                Yes, we just might get some answers now. Carl Webb just went from 6 trees on ancestry to 27.

                                Records and sources are now up from 1 or 2 to as high as 4 and 6, respectively.

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