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  • In Memorium: Emma Smith

    Today marks the 133rd year since the assault upon Emma Smith and her subsequent death on April 4, 1888.

    R.I.P. Emma

  • #2
    Tomorrow on Sunday, the 5th...Emma Smith died in the London Hospital...127 years ago.

    R.I.P. Emma.

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    • #3
      Emma's story was so tragic. I have great sympathy with her statement that her friends and family would not have understood any better the difficulties of her last days, than they understood things before. Then I wonder if the legal case recently shared here, of a woman with a horribly abusive husband, referred to this Emma Smith. RIP indeed.
      The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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      • #4
        From the JTR Tours & Richard Jones :

        In the early hours of April 3rd 1888 Emma Elizabeth Smith was attacked in Whitechapel. She subsequently died of her injuries and the Whitechapel Murders began.



        R. I. P. Emma.

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        • #5
          the more i've given it thought over the years, the more i'm inclined to think walter dew correct....

          Emma was an early JtR attempt

          Yours Jeff

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jeff Leahy
            the more i've given it thought over the years, the more i'm inclined to think walter drew correct....

            Emma was an early JtR attempt

            Yours Jeff
            Not quite over 50% yet but I'm basically with you on that.

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            • #7
              Smith's attack wasn't unique in the annals of London crime as post 2 on this thread demonstrates:

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gary Barnett
                Smith's attack wasn't unique in the annals of London crime as post 2 on this thread demonstrates:

                http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread....t=Duval&page=3
                Its not the fact that it was unique or not?

                Its about timing and geography and the rarity of such attacks

                The cross roads of Brick lane and Old Monique st place a completely different accessment of this attack

                AT THE HEART OF THE JTR MURDER SCENE

                Go there and look at it yourself

                Yours Jeff

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jeff Leahy
                  Its not the fact that it was unique or not?

                  Its about timing and geography and the rarity of such attacks

                  The cross roads of Brick lane and Old Monique st place a completely different accessment of this attack

                  AT THE HEART OF THE JTR MURDER SCENE

                  Go there and look at it yourself

                  Yours Jeff
                  Hi Jeff,

                  I've been there more times than I can remember.

                  Gary

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Gary Barnett
                    Hi Jeff,

                    I've been there more times than I can remember.

                    Gary
                    Thats not an argiment to exclued Smith as a JTR attack...

                    Nor Millwood and Wilson

                    Jack must have started with a different MO and developed..that makes sense

                    Yours Jeff

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                    • #11
                      I am inclined to think Emma Smith was an early Ripper attack. Also I don't think she was attacked in the street by a gang. Just my opinion.

                      Rob

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rob Clack
                        I am inclined to think Emma Smith was an early Ripper attack. Also I don't think she was attacked in the street by a gang. Just my opinion.

                        Rob
                        Hi Rob

                        I agree. That said I still have concerns

                        Can you expand on your opinion?

                        My interest is in the geography and the walk from poipular that night that might have taken her from commercial road through the area around greenfield st towards brick lane

                        Yours Jeff

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jeff Leahy
                          Hi Rob

                          I agree. That said I still have concerns

                          Can you expand on your opinion?

                          My interest is in the geography and the walk from poipular that night that might have taken her from commercial road through the area around greenfield st towards brick lane

                          Yours Jeff
                          Hi Jeff,

                          It all depends on what sort of Lodging House number 18 was. If it was a mixed Lodging House then I have a feeling that Smith was attacked there.
                          If it was women only then that theory goes out the window.

                          Regards

                          Rob

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rob Clack
                            Hi Jeff,

                            It all depends on what sort of Lodging House number 18 was. If it was a mixed Lodging House then I have a feeling that Smith was attacked there.
                            If it was women only then that theory goes out the window.

                            Regards

                            Rob
                            Like the attack on Annie Farmer?

                            Jeff

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jeff Leahy
                              Like the attack on Annie Farmer?

                              Jeff
                              I was thinking more Mary Ann Austin, who was attacked at 35 Dorset Street. When the Police found out the lodging house people took them to a different cubicle and were unhelpful.
                              What I am thinking with Smith is that she was attacked in the lodging house but was told to tell anyone that it happened outside and somewhere else just to keep the Police away from the premise.

                              Rob

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