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Originally posted by Sam Flynn View PostBut did they mean "British or Irish", for the same reason as I previously mentioned? (i.e. the tendency to use "Engish/England" to refer to "British/Britain")
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Originally posted by Gary Barnett View PostI remember reading somewhere that continental brothels were reluctant to employ English or Irish girls because they were troublesome.
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Originally posted by Gary Barnett View PostI haven't come across those names before. Did they operate in the East End?
'The Shield: the Anti-Contagious Diseases Acts Association's weekly circular '
They regularly went in to great depth on the cases of trafficking to Belgium and other parts of the continent. Josephine Butler was involved with the campaign against the Contagious Diseases Act.
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Originally posted by Sam Flynn View PostHard to tell, given that "English/England" are so often incorrectly used to refer to "British/Britain".
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Originally posted by Debra Arif View PostAccording to MJK, via Barnett, she was of full age by the time she landed in the Highway though? I think more she was influenced to take those names?
I was reading today about a man named Rogers and Max or Marx Schulz who apparently were at the London end of things. Have you come acrossthose names, Gary?
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Originally posted by Gary Barnett View Post'English' nationality? Does that exclude Irish, Scots and Welsh?
The Louisa Hennessy case dealt specifically with an English girl and maybe that is why there is a slant that way? Or that girls were especially recruited in London for a quick trip across the channel? England to France and too much bother to drag them in from Ireland, Scotland or Wales? Just an idea.
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Originally posted by Anna Morris View PostHere is something for everyone to work on. If we could find T.W. Snagge's report, it would be interesting.
From "South Wales Echo", May, 1886.
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In the clip I posted, #77 below, some of it has been sanitized. It states that the English girl Louisa was at first rejected because of her "youthful appearance." There is a much better account of this case and matters leading to this case. (When I feel a little better I will try to post a link to that.)
As I understand it, Belgian law allowed young girls to be prostitutes in brothels IF they had had prior experience in the profession.
Louisa was examined by a doctor and found to be a virgin. She was re-examined by another doctor and found to be a virgin. So she was sent to another location, I think it would be in Holland, and soon she was no longer a virgin.
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Here is another interesting item from 1881.
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Here is something for everyone to work on. If we could find T.W. Snagge's report, it would be interesting.
From "South Wales Echo", May, 1886.Attached Files
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According to MJK, via Barnett, she was of full age by the time she landed in the Highway though? I think more she was influenced to take those names?
I was reading today about a man named Rogers and Max or Marx Schulz who apparently were at the London end of things. Have you come acrossthose names, Gary?
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This from the Birmingham Daily Mail of 27/8/1881 gives a flavour of how the placeurs advertised the women they sought to traffic to the continent.
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