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  • #16
    Is there a diffence between a license and a ToL? Inspector Haines said he was issued a license on Aug 22nd, 1888.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Wicker Man View Post
      He then just decided to go to South Africa?
      He went to the office and stated his intention to leave on 5 Sept. The Athenian left on the 6th from Southampton.

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      • #18
        According to the report in the Ultimate Sourcebook, the office was the convict office at Great Scotland Yard. So perhaps Office No. 35.944 is that office?

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        • #19
          A bit about TOL here pp 42-4.


          https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...201889&f=false

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          • #20
            The Ticket of Leave system was also known as Convicts on License.
            There was a special department at Scotland Yard called the Convict Supervision Office where convicts on release were expected to report to.

            There is a section in the 1889 Police Code which outlines six conditions for a Convict on License.

            Firstly. - That they report themselves where directed within forty-eight hours after liberation.
            Secondly. - That they (women excepted) report themselves every month at the nearest Police Station to their place of abode, between the hours of Nine in the morning and Nine in the evening on the day of the month named in the notice.
            Thirdly. - That they reside - that is, sleep - at the address notified to the police in order that they may be at once found if required for any legal purpose.
            Fourthly. - That they get their living by honest means, and regular employment.
            Fifthly. - That if they change their address, or leave any Police District at all, they give notice of their removal at the Police Station at which they are reporting, and also at the nearest Police Station within fourty-eight hours of arriving in any other Police District, in any part of the United Kingdom.
            Sixthly. - That convicts at liberty produce their Licenses when called upon to do so by a Police Officer.
            Police Code 1889, Bell & Wood, 2015, p52.
            Regards, Jon S.
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            The theory that the murderer is a lunatic is dispelled by the opinion given to the police by an expert in the treatment of lunacy patients......."If he's insane
            " observed the medical authority, "he's a good deal sharper than those who are not".
            Reynolds Newspaper, 4 Nov. 1888.

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            • #21
              Thank you Jon and Robert.

              It looks like as long as Kimberley was considered part of the United Kingdom, Brodie acted according to law. Am I reading that right?

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              • #22
                Kimberley was part of the Cape Colony in South Africa from about 1871. So Brodie was free to settle anywhere within the Colony, subject to the same requirements as applicable in the UK.
                Regards, Jon S.
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                The theory that the murderer is a lunatic is dispelled by the opinion given to the police by an expert in the treatment of lunacy patients......."If he's insane
                " observed the medical authority, "he's a good deal sharper than those who are not".
                Reynolds Newspaper, 4 Nov. 1888.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Wicker Man View Post
                  Kimberley was part of the Cape Colony in South Africa from about 1871. So Brodie was free to settle anywhere within the Colony, subject to the same requirements as applicable in the UK.
                  Nice work, Jon.

                  Thanks for taking time in the thread! 😀

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                  • #24
                    You're very welcome, and I learned a few things too
                    Regards, Jon S.
                    "
                    The theory that the murderer is a lunatic is dispelled by the opinion given to the police by an expert in the treatment of lunacy patients......."If he's insane
                    " observed the medical authority, "he's a good deal sharper than those who are not".
                    Reynolds Newspaper, 4 Nov. 1888.

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