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Pennington St. in Old Bailey Cases 1880-1895

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  • #31
    Seems to have been a quite close-knit world.


    The Robertses were living in Plimsoll St in 1939, which was apparently the old Manor St. That wasn't too far from Pennington St etc, was it?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Robert Linford View Post
      Seems to have been a quite close-knit world.


      The Robertses were living in Plimsoll St in 1939, which was apparently the old Manor St. That wasn't too far from Pennington St etc, was it?
      I think it was a bit further East, in Poplar?

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      • #33
        Yes, I think so.

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        • #34
          In the 1901 census, next door to the Roberts family, lived Martha Powell and Hilda Paphut(?), both German. In 1904 a sailor called John Colman shot Hilda dead and tried to kill Martha. 20 years penal servitude.

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          • #35



            15 years according to that.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Robert Linford View Post
              In the 1901 census, next door to the Roberts family, lived Martha Powell and Hilda Paphut(?), both German. In 1904 a sailor called John Colman shot Hilda dead and tried to kill Martha. 20 years penal servitude.
              Yes, Rob, that was in Artichoke Hill. The interesting thing about that case is the fact that Agnes Davy seems to have rented a room there on a nightly basis, as and when she had a client. That always puts me in mind of the story of MJK bringing a man back to Mrs C's and asking for a room for a night.

              This bit is also interesting:


              Cross-examined. About two years ago I lived at 5, Artichoke Hill for about four months—I am an unfortunate, and I was so then—when I was at Artichoke Hill two years ago it was kept by Martha Powell and Mr. Gunther—he lives at No. 6 now—I believe Martha Powell lives at No. 3 now—I do not know if she sleeps there now; she did before this occurred—the prisoner knew what I was, and that. I made my living by getting money from men—he paid me when he went with me, barring on the Monday morning, but he made it up next day—on the Monday night we left the George at twelve midnight—it closed at 12.30...


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              • #37
                Originally posted by Robert Linford View Post
                You beat me to it!

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                • #38
                  It would seem that Alfred's father-in-law was the proprietor of a bad house.

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                  • #39
                    Augustus (Gustav) Gunther is in the criminal registers 1906-7. His brother John may have been no angel too.

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                    • #40
                      In 1939 Gustave was in Shoreditch. He was an ARP warden.


                      "Put that red light out!"

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Robert Linford View Post
                        In 1939 Gustave was in Shoreditch. He was an ARP warden.


                        "Put that red light out!"
                        Arranger of Ratcliffe Prostitutes?

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                        • #42
                          Artichokes, Radishes and Potatoes.

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                          • #43
                            He was in WW1 too. Probably died 1967.

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                            • #44
                              It seems Brescher may have been 'connected' to the powers in Pennington Street. That changes my view of him as simply an oddball whose advances were spurned by Lottie Jones. Could the attack on her have been a punishment for frittering away her earnings in The Flag? One that perhaps got a little out of hand?

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                              • #45
                                The Swedish Flag was at 1/2 Swedenborg/Princes Street, just across the Highway from Artichoke Hill:

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