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    Three hundred years ago

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    Roy:

    That map is so old that the Thames was spring water then !
    Thanks !
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    • #3
      I would be very curious to see a similar Limehouse map from around 1888. This is where Emma Smith and Margaret Hames were alleged to have gone on Emma's last night, and Emma was last seen at the corner of Farrance Street. Assuming this story is true, I'd be curious to know the pubs immediate to that location, though I don't think it would have any bearing on her murder.

      Yours truly,

      Tom Wescott

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      • #4
        Pubs 1888

        Okay, Tom. Emma Smith had been last seen by Margaret Hames at 12:15 that Tuesday morning at the corner of Farrance Street and Burdett Road, Limehouse (Red Star) talking to a man who wore dark clothes and a white scarf. Nearby was the Silver Tavern at Burdett and Dod Street. The Duke of York was at Dod and Silver St.

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        There was a Police Station at 15 Pigott Street, in Blue. The Pigott Arms and the Eastern Hotel occupied the corners. On Commercial Road, the way back to Whitechapel, was the Star of the East pictured.

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        • #5
          Hi Roy, thanks very much for that. Had you already done all this research or was it that easy for you to whip it up that quick?

          Yours truly,

          Tom Wescott

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          • #6
            Ditto to what Tom said, Roy...thanks a lot.
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            • #7
              Census (click) of Mr. Baxter, publican of The Star of the East

              Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
              Hi Roy, thanks very much for that. Had you already done all this research or was it that easy for you to whip it up that quick?
              Thank you, Tom. I purchased that 1894 OS map of Stepney/Limehouse a couple years ago and your question gave me an opportunity to apply it to something. The street directory was used. A snippet of Burdett Road -

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              Outcasts' Haven was a home for destitute boys and girls.

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                1954 photo of the corner of Farrance Street and Burdett Road, Limehouse. Courtesy of Rob Clack

                Directory for 1888 -

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                Census for (Kempner) and (Sherwood)

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                • #9
                  Wow, thanks for the visual, Roy. It's possible now to imagine the scene that Margaret Hames described.

                  Yours truly,

                  Tom Wescott

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                  • #10
                    The Eastern - on the corner of East India and West India Dock Roads was later called 'The Londoner'. In that guise I went there a few times in the 1980s but it was pulled down as part of a road widening scheme connected with the Docklands Redevelopment. It was quite a big impressive pub and was a bit of a landmark.

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                      The Star in the East today
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                      • #12
                        St Anne's through time

                        Thanks for that Ed

                        A sequence of Hawksmoor's church, St Anne's

                        First is Gascoyne's map. The site was Wefts Land (West's)
                        Note Church Lane predated the church. It was the way from the riverside hamlet of Limehouse to the footpath to St Dunstans Stepney.

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                        Then Roque's map when the church was new

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                        Today

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                        • #13
                          I noticed that St Anne's was flying the Royal Navy ensign today

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                            Originally posted by Edward Stow View Post
                            I noticed that St Anne's was flying the Royal Navy ensign today
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                            Thanks Ed,

                            St Anne's is permitted to wear the Royal Navy Ensign at all times, reflecting its history. The tower with its prominent position to the river was a navigational mark and timepiece. (from the church site history)

                            Roy

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                              Mr. Piper came to draw

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