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  • #16
    Originally posted by Jeff Leahy View Post
    Hi all

    Following the conversation between Richard Jones and Conference presenter Colin that the 2011 Conference is planned to be held in Belfast.

    I was curious whether this was an official booking or just a heat of the moment of the top of the head suggestion?

    Clearly their humous banter about mixing Ghosts, Titanic and Jack the Ripper on the same bill seemed to develop into a great idea, and the tenuous if amusing Prince Eddie connection to Titanic seemed of offer one of the best settings for a conference ever.

    So I was wondering just how many Titanic v JtR connections you guys could come up with. And whether anyone could confirm when I can book my ticket on the Titanic?

    Your Official Cameraman

    Jeff Leahy
    I don't have my copy of Stewart P. Evans and Keith Skinner's JtR Letters from Hell with me but I should think there almost certainly were JtR letters sent from Belfast. Certainly there were letters sent from Dublin, and probably elsewhere in Ireland. Speaking to Stewart today, he thought there was a link between Parnell and the Fenians involved in the Phoenix Park murders.

    Anyone for a talk on the similarity of the knives used in those 1884 political crimes and the Ripper murders and the whole idea of a Irish nationalist conspiracy to commit the Whitechapel crimes to shame the British government?

    Of course there's Alan Sharp's London Correspondence: Jack the Ripper and the Irish Press.

    The idea of W. T. Stead going down on the Belfast-built Titanic could be the basis of a talk on Stead and White Slavery.

    It's perhaps not well known that Stead's accusation that Jews were to blame for prostitution in the East End led in 1885 to enlightened Anglo-Jews such as Constance Rothschild, Lady Battersea (1843-1931) forming the Jewish Association for the Protection of Girls and Women (JAPGW).

    The JAPWG was the liberal Jewish establishment's response to Stead's anti-White Slavery campaign and was created to fight those elements who exploited recently arrived Eastern European females and forced them into prostitution or sent them on to brothels in North and South America. This is something I cover in my upcoming book, A to Z of Jack the Ripper and the Jews: Aarons to Zverieff.

    Chris
    Christopher T. George, Lyricist & Co-Author, "Jack the Musical"
    https://www.facebook.com/JackTheMusical/ Hear sample song at https://tinyurl.com/y8h4envx.

    Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conferences, April 2016 and 2018.
    Hear RipperCon 2016 & 2018 talks at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Chris G. View Post
      I don't have my copy of Stewart P. Evans and Keith Skinner's JtR Letters from Hell with me but I should think there almost certainly were JtR letters sent from Belfast. Certainly there were letters sent from Dublin, and probably elsewhere in Ireland. Speaking to Stewart today, he thought there was a link between Parnell and the Fenians involved in the Phoenix Park murders.

      Anyone for a talk on the similarity of the knives used in those 1884 political crimes and the Ripper murders and the whole idea of a Irish nationalist conspiracy to commit the Whitechapel crimes to shame the British government?

      Of course there's Alan Sharp's London Correspondence: Jack the Ripper and the Irish Press.

      The idea of W. T. Stead going down on the Belfast-built Titanic could be the basis of a talk on Stead and White Slavery.

      It's perhaps not well known that Stead's accusation that Jews were to blame for prostitution in the East End led in 1885 to enlightened Anglo-Jews such as Constance Rothschild, Lady Battersea (1843-1931) forming the Jewish Association for the Protection of Girls and Women (JAPGW).

      The JAPWG was the liberal Jewish establishment's response to Stead's anti-White Slavery campaign and was created to fight those elements who exploited recently arrived Eastern European females and forced them into prostitution or sent them on to brothels in North and South America. This is something I cover in my upcoming book, A to Z of Jack the Ripper and the Jews: Aarons to Zverieff.

      Chris
      Well Jack the Ripper the Irish connections would have my Vote, it has nothing to do with the Guinness, honest.

      jeff

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      • #18
        A conference in Belfast would be handy for me, and probably only me.

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        • #19
          Hi all
          Would be good- but the air travel involved could prove a major barrier to some folks- purely on the matter of carrying large amounts of books etc etc.
          Bit early to start this off but my vote would be for a Welsh connection...a Kelly based horror maybe..........

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          • #20
            Hi Suzi

            I heard that Diddles had voted for the Isle of Man?

            or was that a LONG TAIL?

            xx

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            • #21
              He he Hi Jeff!- Good one!

              Hope the clever stuff with the filming going OK- well done you!

              Suz x

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              • #22
                The welsh connection gets my vote!
                Jon

                "It is far more comfortable to point a finger and declare someone a devil, than to call upon your imagination to try to understand their world."


                http://www.jlrees.co.uk



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                • #23
                  Hey Jon
                  Jeff's just asked a question about your speaker interviews on the other thread
                  Suz x

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Chris G. View Post
                    I don't have my copy of Stewart P. Evans and Keith Skinner's JtR Letters from Hell with me but I should think there almost certainly were JtR letters sent from Belfast. Certainly there were letters sent from Dublin, and probably elsewhere in Ireland. Speaking to Stewart today, he thought there was a link between Parnell and the Fenians involved in the Phoenix Park murders.

                    Anyone for a talk on the similarity of the knives used in those 1884 political crimes and the Ripper murders and the whole idea of a Irish nationalist conspiracy to commit the Whitechapel crimes to shame the British government?

                    Of course there's Alan Sharp's London Correspondence: Jack the Ripper and the Irish Press.

                    The idea of W. T. Stead going down on the Belfast-built Titanic could be the basis of a talk on Stead and White Slavery.

                    It's perhaps not well known that Stead's accusation that Jews were to blame for prostitution in the East End led in 1885 to enlightened Anglo-Jews such as Constance Rothschild, Lady Battersea (1843-1931) forming the Jewish Association for the Protection of Girls and Women (JAPGW).

                    The JAPWG was the liberal Jewish establishment's response to Stead's anti-White Slavery campaign and was created to fight those elements who exploited recently arrived Eastern European females and forced them into prostitution or sent them on to brothels in North and South America. This is something I cover in my upcoming book, A to Z of Jack the Ripper and the Jews: Aarons to Zverieff.

                    Chris
                    Baron Russell of Killowen (1832-1900), defense counsel for Florence Maybrick and also Attorney General under Gladstone, was born in Newry and lived in the Rostrevor area of Northern Ireland, in the Mountains of Mourne. If we ran a bus tour down there, I could also show folks the monument on the shoreline of Carlingford Lough to Major General Robert Ross who burned the White House in 1814.





                    Chris
                    Christopher T. George, Lyricist & Co-Author, "Jack the Musical"
                    https://www.facebook.com/JackTheMusical/ Hear sample song at https://tinyurl.com/y8h4envx.

                    Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conferences, April 2016 and 2018.
                    Hear RipperCon 2016 & 2018 talks at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/.

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                    • #25
                      Too cool for school

                      I, for one wish I had made that conference as it is not often that two of my interests collide like this. Titanic and Jack The Ripper meet up, fancy that.

                      Of course it is second hand I guess unless the real JTR was actually on the Titanic when it sank. Now there is a thought or theory that I thought (lol) that I would throw out there. Wish I had seen this a whole lot sooner.

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                      • #26
                        George - I'm only commenting on your post without seeing if you're referring to anything else but - it never happened. There has not been a Conference in Belfast. This year's one is being held by the Whitechapel Society 1888 in London and there's more speakers than you can shake a walking stick with a demon head at.

                        PHILIP
                        Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd

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                        • #27
                          You're in luck George, I think a Belfast conference is planned for next year

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by George Hutchinson View Post
                            George - I'm only commenting on your post without seeing if you're referring to anything else but - it never happened. There has not been a Conference in Belfast. This year's one is being held by the Whitechapel Society 1888 in London and there's more speakers than you can shake a walking stick with a demon head at.

                            PHILIP
                            Thank You, I wondered why I never heard anything of the said conference on the Titanic forums. Now I know.

                            Originally posted by Nemo View Post
                            You're in luck George, I think a Belfast conference is planned for next year
                            Thanks Nemo for the information. Hopefully I can save up my pennies for that.

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