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  • #16
    Gary:

    Alcohol doesn't tackle arthritis, buddy. Tits on a bull.

    I could possibly get percs but its a major effort because of the assholes misusing them at this time. Doctors ( 4 doctors in my county got nailed last year for selling prescriptions to undercover cops) are reluctant to provide them because of the misuse.....and in most cases, I agree.

    I'm not asking for them...I was looking for the legal weed.
    Never been fingerprinted. Never been arrested. Never been inside a police station.
    I'm pretty steamed at this.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
      Gary:

      Alcohol doesn't tackle arthritis, buddy. Tits on a bull.

      I could possibly get percs but its a major effort because of the assholes misusing them at this time. Doctors ( 4 doctors in my county got nailed last year for selling prescriptions to undercover cops) are reluctant to provide them because of the misuse.....and in most cases, I agree.

      I'm not asking for them...I was looking for the legal weed.
      Never been fingerprinted. Never been arrested. Never been inside a police station.
      I'm pretty steamed at this.
      The point I was making was that having a firearms licence presumably wouldn’t prevent you from being legally prescribed opiates or buying alcohol. Why single out cannabis?

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      • #18
        The point I was making was that having a firearms licence presumably wouldn’t prevent you from being legally prescribed opiates or buying alcohol. Why single out cannabis?
        -Gary Barnett-

        That's what I say, ace. Makes no sense.
        When I take 2 tokes ( no more ) on most mornings, the stuff I inhale doesn't affect me like I'm at a Grateful Dead concert. It just provides a mild buzz and makes the chronic pain more tolerable. Chronic ( what people call weed) for chronic, so to speak.

        These assholes running the drug show have to go.
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        • #19
          On a slight side note : I've often thought that all politicians should be tested, every 'working' day, for drugs and alcohol.

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          • #20
            https://www.psp.pa.gov/firearms-info...formation.aspx


            Information for Medical Marijuana Cardholders:

            It is legal under Pennsylvania law for the holder of a validly issued patient Medical Marijuana Card to possess approved forms of medical marijuana. However, as per the United States Department of Justice, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE), the possession of medical marijuana remains a violation of federal law, and possession of a valid Medical Marijuana Card and/or the use of medical marijuana makes you an “unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance” who is prohibited by federal law from the purchase or acquisition, possession, or control of a firearm pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(3), and 27 C.F.R. § 478.32(a)(3).

            The BATFE’s position is set forth in its September 21, 2011, Open Letter to all Federal Firearms Licensees, which states in part that “[t]herefore, any person who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her State has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance, and is prohibited by Federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition.” Click here for a copy of the Open Letter.Opens In A New Window Likewise, the mere possession of a Medical Marijuana Card will give rise to an inference that you are an “unlawful user of or addicted to” a controlled substance, pursuant to 27 C.F.R. § 478.11.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
              https://www.psp.pa.gov/firearms-info...formation.aspx


              Information for Medical Marijuana Cardholders:

              It is legal under Pennsylvania law for the holder of a validly issued patient Medical Marijuana Card to possess approved forms of medical marijuana. However, as per the United States Department of Justice, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE), the possession of medical marijuana remains a violation of federal law, and possession of a valid Medical Marijuana Card and/or the use of medical marijuana makes you an “unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance” who is prohibited by federal law from the purchase or acquisition, possession, or control of a firearm pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(3), and 27 C.F.R. § 478.32(a)(3).

              The BATFE’s position is set forth in its September 21, 2011, Open Letter to all Federal Firearms Licensees, which states in part that “[t]herefore, any person who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her State has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance, and is prohibited by Federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition.” Click here for a copy of the Open Letter.Opens In A New Window Likewise, the mere possession of a Medical Marijuana Card will give rise to an inference that you are an “unlawful user of or addicted to” a controlled substance, pursuant to 27 C.F.R. § 478.11.
              WOW! I did not know that. Interestingly, Oregon has legal marijuana, medicinal and recreational. Political Nanny Michael Bloomberg keeps buying anti-gun legislation for Oregon but nobody thought of pushing this aspect of federal law, apparently.

              There are huge marijuana fields across the river from me and most ranchers own guns for various reasons including predator control, self defense and other reasons. I had a vibrant dream the night before How posted this, that marijuana would be a good crop for my small ranch and I must have spent the whole night dreaming about the work involved. It took me a while to remember it is illegal on my side of the river.

              One day my dogs got kind of sick in the car and I had to get off the road on the Oregon side, so I took a gravel lane and ended up winding for more than a mile through marijuana fields hidden behind a few rows of corn. I wondered if it was safe but we all survived reaching the Weiser River (I think, it joins the Snake about there) , the dogs cooling off in the water, etc. Nobody questioned us and I think the roads are public because they have county road signs.

              (I am NOT trying to open a discussion on gun rights. By now my position is known. I am an NRA member and my late husband was a top competition shooter. He never killed anyone and neither have I, nor did his guns ever sneak out on their own and kill anybody.)
              The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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              • #22
                Sorry for rambling on a couple of days ago about this issue. I'm sure other people have more serious concerns than what I'd been blabbing about.

                My doctor saw me today at 3 PM. I told her about the problem getting legal weed and owning a gun. She said she was vaguely familiar with it and would have prescribed it for me in a New York minute if I didn't own a gun. She and I get along famously. Good lady.

                At the conclusion of my check up, I asked her for Tramadols. Not sure if youse have it in the UK...and she prescribed it. They work a little, but I'm not complaining.

                The kicker was that I had to give her a urine sample right then and there and sign this paper stating I wouldn't sell the Trams to anyone. New Government guideline.

                So I gave the sample and got the prescription.

                I just get exasperated at my arthritis. Sonofabitch comes and goes when it wants.

                Again, I apologize for sounding like a crybaby.
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                • #23
                  Don't worry, How. I too am sick of all the petty regulations imposed by useless politicians with nothing better to do. That bit about promising not to sell the Trams is a case in point.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                    Sorry for rambling on a couple of days ago about this issue. I'm sure other people have more serious concerns than what I'd been blabbing about.

                    My doctor saw me today at 3 PM. I told her about the problem getting legal weed and owning a gun. She said she was vaguely familiar with it and would have prescribed it for me in a New York minute if I didn't own a gun. She and I get along famously. Good lady.

                    At the conclusion of my check up, I asked her for Tramadols. Not sure if youse have it in the UK...and she prescribed it. They work a little, but I'm not complaining.

                    The kicker was that I had to give her a urine sample right then and there and sign this paper stating I wouldn't sell the Trams to anyone. New Government guideline.

                    So I gave the sample and got the prescription.

                    I just get exasperated at my arthritis. Sonofabitch comes and goes when it wants.

                    Again, I apologize for sounding like a crybaby.
                    These are good subjects to discuss. Arthritis is a big problem. I have it but any pain goes up and down with migraine. I am fine unless the pain pathways are overactive.

                    NEVER tell a doctor you own fire arms. They actually do not have the right to ask. There are several bits of information doctors try to collect that could come back to bite you later. My late husband was a hunter and competition shooter, Long ago I taught him to say to the doctor that we went hiking, camping and bird watching. The doctor was a great bird watcher. Just to drive the point home I made a packet of nature based greeting cards, from my outdoor photography, which I gave to this doctor.

                    Second, never admit tobacco use. Depending on their moods, you might be denied care. They can't do that so much in countries with socialised medicine but the U.S. has no idea what it has and rationing tobacco users is done frequently. Doctors and nurses are also supposed to harass you every visit, even if you say you have quit smoking. They are supposed to make sure you haven't started again and congratulate you for being "smoke-free".

                    Tramadol helps some but it is not a great pain killer. It is something like a narcotic but isn't exactly. Addicts apparently like it. It made me extremely nervous and did nothing for pain. If it works for you it should be easy to get.

                    What is really great for me is going to a hot spring and soaking in a hot pool. Heat always helps me, even with migraine. A hot tub would do the same I think. I am thinking of putting in a hot tub but don't know if I want to have to worry about bacterial stuff in the water, etc. I plan to sample some of the local hot springs pretty soon.

                    Pee tests are fine because for those of us who do not abuse drugs, it proves our innocence. Otherwise the doctors who are ill trained and continually confused by the latest federal "guidelines", lump all patients with pain together with street addicts. In Oregon people with severe pain--and I am speaking of conditions worse than migraine--are supposed to find relief with yoga and meditation!

                    You might try CBD oil. It is made from hemp/marijuana but has no THC. States that do not have legal marijuana frequently allow this. I have had some good results except that the migraine pattern changed when I took it and I did not know if the CBD had caused that. I started getting headaches on both sides of my head at once and more frequent headaches. Anyway, the human body has receptor sites for cannabinoids and there are many of these that do not have psychoactive properties. A lot of my friends have had very good results with the CBD oil, taken by dropper under the tongue or in capsules by mouth.
                    The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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                    • #25
                      Anna:

                      My doctor didn't ask me whether I had guns....I told her. I was explaining the silly law to her.

                      Might check out that oil you mentioned. Thank you
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Robert Linford View Post
                        Don't worry, How. I too am sick of all the petty regulations imposed by useless politicians with nothing better to do. That bit about promising not to sell the Trams is a case in point.
                        That's just legal stuff. Everyone covering their collective ***es to save their ASSets. If a "child" stole that Tramadol and sold it to his friends and someone ODed when thy mixed it with fentanyl and animal tranquilizer, everyone is at fault except the "child" who stole the medication.

                        Hey, How, wait till they try to lecture you about keeping drugs locked in a safe in your own home! I stopped that one in its tracks. Told them I have a safe--I do--I live alone and my dogs would shred anyone who broke in.

                        Some of these political freaks don't want anything available that might harm or entice a "child". (So, concerning the risks of unprotected sex, should the "children" be fed saltpeter in their school lunches or would surgeries be preferable? After all, we all have to protect "the children" from everything.)
                        The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Robert Linford View Post
                          How, couldn't Nina own the gun instead?
                          Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                          Bob:

                          No, she did a 10 year stretch at Pelican Bay. Can't vote, own a piece, or wear white after November 1st.

                          She could but that ain't the point.
                          Laughter is the best medicine

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                          • #28
                            I have just watched a documentary on marijuana.

                            I think all documentaries should be watched this way.
                            SPERO IN DEO

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Whitechurch View Post
                              I have just watched a documentary on marijuana.

                              I think all documentaries should be watched this way.
                              I bet that would cure arthritis at the same time?
                              The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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                              • #30
                                Good ones, Anna and Whitey !
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