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Maria Louisa Roulson (aka Old Ma Lechmere)
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EBC had a London pad in Grafton Street. Among his neighbours were:
The Countess of Pembroke,
Viscount Dungannon,
The Marquess of Salisbury,
Lady Hart Garnier,
and Lord St Helens (his next door neighbour. See link).
His Herefordshire butler may never have seen it. It's extremely unlikely, I would have thought, that the butler's daughter ever did, but she may well have encountered the likes of the ladies and gents above in Whitfield. She'd certainly have had more exposure to 'quality' than your average East Ender.
http://www.thefullwiki.org/Alleyne_F...aron_St_Helens
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Originally posted by Dusty Miller View PostIf it is the correct Thomas Cross from Hereford, he wasn't too far from Maria Roulson. I've always wondered if Maria knew Thomas Cross back then, perhaps this even being the reason for Pa Lechmere clearing off.
Who knows CAL could have been a Cross all along. It would certainly explain some things.
For balance, here's some info on Fownhope Court, the seat of the Lechmeres.
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>>Ed has reminded me that Thomas Cross was considerably younger than Maria. He would have been around 15 when Charles was born in London.<<
I don't have a problem with the age issue and sex (at least as far as research goes;-), my only concern is that Cross may not have come from Herefordshire.Thanks for your time,
dusty miller
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Originally posted by Dusty Miller View Post>>Ed has reminded me that Thomas Cross was considerably younger than Maria. He would have been around 15 when Charles was born in London.<<
I don't have a problem with the age issue and sex (at least as far as research goes;-), my only concern is that Cross may not have come from Herefordshire.
The 1861 census clearly shows him as having been born in the same county as Maria and her daughter.
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Originally posted by Dusty Miller View PostThe lack of a town or village by that name. If I remember correctly Chris Scott thought it might be a mistake for Hertfordshire.
And wasn't the age wrong too?
I hope you're right, then my theory might still stand!
The age is out by a couple of years from the marriage cert. That shows him as 23, whereas the Breinton lad would have been 20/1.
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