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  • Dusty Miller
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    Poor Barbara, lived at the back of a Pub, the Back Bull, which is one of the buildings in thuis picture.

    I wonder if the kids in the picture were related?
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  • Howard Brown
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    Leeds Mercury
    June 12, 1891
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  • Howard Brown
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    Leeds Mercury
    June 11, 1891
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  • Howard Brown
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    Thanks very much, Mark.
    What a tragedy.

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  • Jerry Dunlop
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    Thanks Mark,

    The clipping below shows the nature of poor Barbara's wounds.

    Echo London Middlesex June 13, 1891

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  • Mark Davis
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    Poor little Barbara...

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  • Debra Arif
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    Originally posted by Jerry Dunlop View Post
    Ah, thanks Debs!

    I think I have read about that case. The boy was in a sailors bag with initials on it that was fished out of the water? Is that the one? I never knew they caught the guy.
    That's the one, Jerry.

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  • Jerry Dunlop
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    Originally posted by Robert Linford View Post
    From the 1891 census, the couple in Crown St appear to have been Thomas and Jessie Joy, both deaf and dumb. They seem to have been living at the back of 1 Crown St. Thomas was a bookbinder, with 5 offspring.

    Thomas and Jessie were married in 1877, and Jessie's surname at the time was 'Turner' so she may well have been a relation.
    Found this conversation of relatives of Barbara Waterhouse.

    http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=218919.0

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  • Jerry Dunlop
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    Just found a thread on this on Casebook. There are mentions of Walter Lewis Turner about mid way down. The last post has him living in Shipley in the 1881 census.

    http://www.casebook.org/forum/messages/4920/9504.html

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  • Jerry Dunlop
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    Originally posted by Debra Arif View Post
    How and Jerry

    John Conway was convicted of the 1891 dismemberment murder of a boy named Nicholas Martin and dumping his remains in a sack in the Mersey Dock . The two mutilation cases were often mentioned in the same paragraph in the papers as the trials were running at the same time.
    Ah, thanks Debs!

    I think I have read about that case. The boy was in a sailors bag with initials on it that was fished out of the water? Is that the one? I never knew they caught the guy.

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  • Robert Linford
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    Interesting to look at the crimes and sentences on the same page. A man who tried to rape a 10-year-old girl got only six weeks.

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  • Jerry Dunlop
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    London Mid Surrey Times And General Advertiser August 24, 1889

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  • Debra Arif
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    Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
    Jerry:
    Who was this Conway and how did he figure in the crime ?

    Makes you wonder about the 'single killer' theory in the WM, doesn't it ?
    How and Jerry

    John Conway was convicted of the 1891 dismemberment murder of a boy named Nicholas Martin and dumping his remains in a sack in the Mersey Dock . The two mutilation cases were often mentioned in the same paragraph in the papers as the trials were running at the same time.

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  • Robert Linford
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    Thanks Jerry.

    He got only 9 months for that.

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