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  • #46
    Ordered a copy from Waterstones 1 October. Still waiting for them to process the order.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Rob Clack View Post
      Ordered a copy from Waterstones 1 October. Still waiting for them to process the order.
      I'm very sorry to hear that.

      I was surprised to see it listed on the Waterstones website, as I hadn't been expecting it to be available through them. But I took them at their word and added a link on the book's website. I have now removed it.

      The book is currently available only through Lulu:
      https://www.hanged-for-the-word-if.org.uk/print.html
      https://www.hanged-for-the-word-if.org.uk/ebook.html

      Unfortunately when I published the book I submitted the details to two databases of published books. The result has been that a number of online retailers have picked it up and are showing it as "unavailable", which is not helpful, to say the least. Waterstones was the exception, but obviously taking orders and not fulfilling them is even worse.

      Anyone thinking of self-publishing a book should perhaps bear this in mind!

      (Edit: Rob: I have sent you a private message.)

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Chris Phillips View Post
        I'm very sorry to hear that.

        I was surprised to see it listed on the Waterstones website, as I hadn't been expecting it to be available through them. But I took them at their word and added a link on the book's website. I have now removed it.

        The book is currently available only through Lulu:
        https://www.hanged-for-the-word-if.org.uk/print.html
        https://www.hanged-for-the-word-if.org.uk/ebook.html

        Unfortunately when I published the book I submitted the details to two databases of published books. The result has been that a number of online retailers have picked it up and are showing it as "unavailable", which is not helpful, to say the least. Waterstones was the exception, but obviously taking orders and not fulfilling them is even worse.

        Anyone thinking of self-publishing a book should perhaps bear this in mind!

        (Edit: Rob: I have sent you a private message.)
        Thank you. It's not your fault and I appreciate the message.

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        • #49
          In case anyone is feeling masochistic, here is a little talk I gave as part of a series organised by Satish Sekar for the 30th anniversary of the Cardiff Five (three of whom were wrongly convicted of the 1988 murder of Lynette White in Butetown):
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P4s9AqHe-o

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          • #50
            I've seen the first six minutes of the video, and I've already given it a thumbs up "I like it" vote.

            I will watch the entire episode over the weekend.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Chris Phillips View Post

                I'm very sorry to hear that.

                I was surprised to see it listed on the Waterstones website, as I hadn't been expecting it to be available through them. But I took them at their word and added a link on the book's website. I have now removed it.

                The book is currently available only through Lulu:
                https://www.hanged-for-the-word-if.org.uk/print.html
                https://www.hanged-for-the-word-if.org.uk/ebook.html

                Unfortunately when I published the book I submitted the details to two databases of published books. The result has been that a number of online retailers have picked it up and are showing it as "unavailable", which is not helpful, to say the least. Waterstones was the exception, but obviously taking orders and not fulfilling them is even worse.

                Anyone thinking of self-publishing a book should perhaps bear this in mind!

                (Edit: Rob: I have sent you a private message.)
                Waterstones are no longer accepting orders for the book. But unbelievably, they are still displaying a listing for it, with the comment "Publication abandoned Other editions may be available".

                Of course, there was never any question of the publication being abandoned. The book that Waterstones has been advertising was published last September, and has been available ever since. The problem was that Waterstones were advertising it and accepting orders for it, even though they were unable to distribute it - through my choice, because the markup imposed by "high street retailers" was so high, and I didn't want readers to pay more than they needed to.

                I find this quite unbelievable. I brought the problem to their attention two and half months ago when Rob pointed it out, and explained to them exactly what the situation was. No action from them since then, and now this.

                Because of the circumstances, I decided before publication that any income from the book - however little it might be - would go to charity. I don't see why the charity should lose out, so I think it's best that a court should decide on damages.

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                • #53
                  Chris:

                  No good deed goes unpunished, brother. Waterstone's sounds like what we call a 'clip joint'.

                  Very decent of you to donate to charity, too.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                    Chris:

                    No good deed goes unpunished, brother. Waterstone's sounds like what we call a 'clip joint'.

                    Very decent of you to donate to charity, too.
                    I should say that when Waterstones accepted the orders, they didn't actually take payment, so no money has changed hands, even temporarily.

                    But in effect they have sabotaged the sale of the book because I chose that it shouldn't be sold through them.

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                    • #55
                      Is a complimentary copy out of the question?

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
                        Is a complimentary copy out of the question?
                        I don't think it would have any effect on them. I think money is the only language they understand.

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