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Here is a source I noticed a few months ago which to my knowledge has not been posted on this form:
"DAGONET'S" DOUBLE.
STARTLING REMINISCENCES OF THE "RIPPER" MURDERS.
The strange case of Adolph Beck, twice convicted erroneously for the crimes of his "double," has induced Mr. George R. Sims to relate in yesterday's "Referee" an extraordinary story of his own likeness to "the demented doctor who committed the terrible Jack the Ripper outrages."
"Twice," Mr. Sims writes, "a portrait of me was shown as that of a man who had been seen on several occasions in the neighbourhood on the night of its committal.
"A man who had seen Jack at a coffee-stall in the small hours on the night that two women were killed, and had noticed that his shirt cuff was bloodstained, took my portrait with him afterwards to Dr. Forbes Winslow, and said, "That is the man; on the night of the murders, long before they were discovered, I spoke to him. In conversation I said, "I wonder if we shall hear of another Jack the Ripper murder?" "You'll very likely hear of two tomorrow," was the reply, and the man walked hurriedly away."
At another time, Mr. Sims adds, his portrait was shown to one of the detectives engaged in the hunt for the miscreant.
The danger of being the "double" of such a criminal caused Mr. Sims on one occasion to accidentally run a dangerous risk: -
"I had borrowed from Paul Meritt, the dramatist, a long Japanese knife of a murderous character for melodramatic purposes, and putting it in a black bag, I had gone to the Pavilion Theatre, Whitechapel, late at night. I often wonder what would have happened if some one had cried out, "That's the Ripper," and my black bag had been opened."
WHO WAS THE MAN?
Seen last night by an "Express" representative, Mr. Sims said he believed the coffee-stall keeper came across his portrait on the cover of the first edition of "The Social Kaleidoscope," in a shop in a side-street in Soutwark.
"It was a terrible portrait - taken, when I was very ill. My face was drawn and haggard, and surprisingly like the Ripper, whom only the coffee-stall keeper and a policeman ever set eyes upon."
"Dr. Forbes Winslow was at that time engrossed in the mystery of the murders, and had written a good deal about it. That is why the coffee-stall keeper went to him with my portrait. On the occasion when I carried the black bag and Japanese knife I was in a bowler hat, I remember, and was standing among the people, close to the very spot where one of the worst murders was committed."
Mr. Sims said that he had not the slightest doubt in his mind as to who the "Ripper" really was.
"Nor have the police," he continued.
"In the archives of the Home Office are the name and history of the wretched man. He was a mad physician belonging to a highly respected family. He committed the crimes after having been confined in a lunatic asylum as a homicidal maniac."
Source: The Daily Express, London, Monday August 1, 1904, Page 5
Interestingly he refers to a policeman who may have seen Jack.
This comes from the 'Aberconway' version which Sims calls several times the 'Home Office Report' which proves to the government who Jack was: eg. the mad, English doctor who had been in a lunatic asylum.
That cop seems to be the Lawende-Sailor(fair featured) story inverted: a the Jewish witness and the Gentile suspect but pulled inside out.
Actually the story related by Sims, presumably from Mac, goes like this:
'One man only, a policeman, saw him leaving the place in which he had just accomplished a fiendish deed, but failed, owing to the darkness, to get a good view of him. A little later the policeman stumbled over the lifeless body of the victim.
One other man believed that he had seen the Ripper soon after the double murders of Sept. 30, and he may have done, but there was no absolute proof that he was correct in his surmise.
This man was a coffee-stall keeper. In the early hours of the date of these murders, between three and four in the morning, as far as I can remember, a man came to the stall and asked for a cup of coffee ...
... Various witnesses who had seen a man conversing with a woman who was soon afterwards found murdered said that he was a well-dressed man with a black moustache. Others described him as a man with a closely-trimmed beard.
The portrait on the cover of the first edition of "The Social Kaleidoscope," a book which twenty years ago was in most of the newsagents' and small booksellers' windows, was taken about 1879 ...'
The above is from Sims' long piece for Lloyds weekly Mag, Sept 22nd 1907.
I think that Mac wanted to push back against the 'Kosminski' theory which Anderson was pushing.
Now the cop witness did not see anything because it was too dark, and the syuspect is not described as being like the Polish Jew suspect. In the few lines that Sims writes about this suspect he has this alleged policeman witness:
'The first man was a Polish Jew of curious habits and strange disposition, who was the sole occupant of certain premises in Whitechapel after night-fall. This man was in the district during the whole period covered by the Whitechapel murders, and soon after they ceased certain facts came to light which showed that it was quite possible that he might have been the Ripper. He had at one time been employed in a hospital in Poland. He was known to be a lunatic at the time of the murders, and some-time afterwards he betrayed such undoubted signs of homicidal mania that he was sent to a lunatic asylum.
The policeman who got a glimpse of Jack in Mitre Court said, when some time afterwards he saw the Pole, that he was the height and build of the man he had seen on the night of the murder.'
In other words all he saw was an outline -- not much.
Masturbation is gone, replaced by 'anatomical knowledge' courtesy of a hospital in Poland.
Then comes the quash (of Ostrog too):
'Both these men were capable of the Ripper crimes, but there is one thing that makes the case against each of them weak.
They were both alive long after the horrors had ceased, and though both were in an asylum, there had been a considerable time after the cessation of the Ripper crimes during which they were at liberty and passing about among their fellow men.'
Mac via Tatcho was way ahead of Fido et al about the length of time between Kelly and incarceration discrediting Aaron as a likely suspect.
"DAGONET'S" DOUBLE.
STARTLING REMINISCENCES OF THE "RIPPER" MURDERS.
The strange case of Adolph Beck, twice convicted erroneously for the crimes of his "double," has induced Mr. George R. Sims to relate in yesterday's "Referee" an extraordinary story of his own likeness to "the demented doctor who committed the terrible Jack the Ripper outrages."
"Twice," Mr. Sims writes, "a portrait of me was shown as that of a man who had been seen on several occasions in the neighbourhood on the night of its committal.
"A man who had seen Jack at a coffee-stall in the small hours on the night that two women were killed, and had noticed that his shirt cuff was bloodstained, took my portrait with him afterwards to Dr. Forbes Winslow, and said, "That is the man; on the night of the murders, long before they were discovered, I spoke to him. In conversation I said, "I wonder if we shall hear of another Jack the Ripper murder?" "You'll very likely hear of two tomorrow," was the reply, and the man walked hurriedly away."
At another time, Mr. Sims adds, his portrait was shown to one of the detectives engaged in the hunt for the miscreant.
The danger of being the "double" of such a criminal caused Mr. Sims on one occasion to accidentally run a dangerous risk: -
"I had borrowed from Paul Meritt, the dramatist, a long Japanese knife of a murderous character for melodramatic purposes, and putting it in a black bag, I had gone to the Pavilion Theatre, Whitechapel, late at night. I often wonder what would have happened if some one had cried out, "That's the Ripper," and my black bag had been opened."
WHO WAS THE MAN?
Seen last night by an "Express" representative, Mr. Sims said he believed the coffee-stall keeper came across his portrait on the cover of the first edition of "The Social Kaleidoscope," in a shop in a side-street in Soutwark.
"It was a terrible portrait - taken, when I was very ill. My face was drawn and haggard, and surprisingly like the Ripper, whom only the coffee-stall keeper and a policeman ever set eyes upon."
"Dr. Forbes Winslow was at that time engrossed in the mystery of the murders, and had written a good deal about it. That is why the coffee-stall keeper went to him with my portrait. On the occasion when I carried the black bag and Japanese knife I was in a bowler hat, I remember, and was standing among the people, close to the very spot where one of the worst murders was committed."
Mr. Sims said that he had not the slightest doubt in his mind as to who the "Ripper" really was.
"Nor have the police," he continued.
"In the archives of the Home Office are the name and history of the wretched man. He was a mad physician belonging to a highly respected family. He committed the crimes after having been confined in a lunatic asylum as a homicidal maniac."
Source: The Daily Express, London, Monday August 1, 1904, Page 5
Interestingly he refers to a policeman who may have seen Jack.
This comes from the 'Aberconway' version which Sims calls several times the 'Home Office Report' which proves to the government who Jack was: eg. the mad, English doctor who had been in a lunatic asylum.
That cop seems to be the Lawende-Sailor(fair featured) story inverted: a the Jewish witness and the Gentile suspect but pulled inside out.
Actually the story related by Sims, presumably from Mac, goes like this:
'One man only, a policeman, saw him leaving the place in which he had just accomplished a fiendish deed, but failed, owing to the darkness, to get a good view of him. A little later the policeman stumbled over the lifeless body of the victim.
One other man believed that he had seen the Ripper soon after the double murders of Sept. 30, and he may have done, but there was no absolute proof that he was correct in his surmise.
This man was a coffee-stall keeper. In the early hours of the date of these murders, between three and four in the morning, as far as I can remember, a man came to the stall and asked for a cup of coffee ...
... Various witnesses who had seen a man conversing with a woman who was soon afterwards found murdered said that he was a well-dressed man with a black moustache. Others described him as a man with a closely-trimmed beard.
The portrait on the cover of the first edition of "The Social Kaleidoscope," a book which twenty years ago was in most of the newsagents' and small booksellers' windows, was taken about 1879 ...'
The above is from Sims' long piece for Lloyds weekly Mag, Sept 22nd 1907.
I think that Mac wanted to push back against the 'Kosminski' theory which Anderson was pushing.
Now the cop witness did not see anything because it was too dark, and the syuspect is not described as being like the Polish Jew suspect. In the few lines that Sims writes about this suspect he has this alleged policeman witness:
'The first man was a Polish Jew of curious habits and strange disposition, who was the sole occupant of certain premises in Whitechapel after night-fall. This man was in the district during the whole period covered by the Whitechapel murders, and soon after they ceased certain facts came to light which showed that it was quite possible that he might have been the Ripper. He had at one time been employed in a hospital in Poland. He was known to be a lunatic at the time of the murders, and some-time afterwards he betrayed such undoubted signs of homicidal mania that he was sent to a lunatic asylum.
The policeman who got a glimpse of Jack in Mitre Court said, when some time afterwards he saw the Pole, that he was the height and build of the man he had seen on the night of the murder.'
In other words all he saw was an outline -- not much.
Masturbation is gone, replaced by 'anatomical knowledge' courtesy of a hospital in Poland.
Then comes the quash (of Ostrog too):
'Both these men were capable of the Ripper crimes, but there is one thing that makes the case against each of them weak.
They were both alive long after the horrors had ceased, and though both were in an asylum, there had been a considerable time after the cessation of the Ripper crimes during which they were at liberty and passing about among their fellow men.'
Mac via Tatcho was way ahead of Fido et al about the length of time between Kelly and incarceration discrediting Aaron as a likely suspect.
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