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  • Sims, O'Connor, & The Fate Of The Ripper ( 1900)

    The story also appeared in the :
    Capricornian (Rockhampton)
    Kiama Independent
    Western Champion
    Hawkesbury Advocate

    Morning Bulletin

    Rockhampton, Queensland
    September 11, 1900
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    TP O'Connor

    Hello Howard. Thanks for posting this.

    TP O'Connor? Are we talking Cutbush here?

    Cheers.
    LC

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    • #3
      When did Cutbush die, LC ?
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      • #4
        Sounds like more of Mac's fairy tale. O'Connor probably learned it from Sims.

        Yours truly,

        Tom Wescott

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        • #5
          Tom:
          Notice the line about the person in question dying in a private lunatic asylum.
          That doesn't sound like Macnaghten's man, does it ?
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          • #6
            It sounds like third-hand Mac. George Sims promoted Mac's Druitt story, add to that the medical student/doctor line and the 'family thought him the Ripper' and this whole things sounds like an exaggerated version of Mac's Druitt story.

            Yours truly,

            Tom Wescott

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            • #7
              Tom:
              Understood, buddy.... that opening line about the asylum must come from someplace else...that's what I should have said.
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              • #8
                Well, Thomas Cutbush died 1903 at Broadmoor. So if it is about Cutbush, it's all wrong.

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                • #9
                  Sounds a bit like this tale from Forbes Winslow...

                  Fort Wayne Weekly Gazette
                  Indiana, USA
                  4 October 1895

                  JACK THE RIPPER
                  Insanity Expert Says He is in a Country Asylum in England

                  Dr. Forbes Winslow, a well known insanity expert specialist of London, is in New York. He says Jack the Ripper is incarcerated in a country lunatic asylum in England. The story told by Dr. Winslow follows:

                  "Jack the Ripper was a medical student of good family. He was a young man of slight build with light hair and blue eyes. He studied very hard and his mind, being naturally weak, gave way. He became a religious enthusiast and attended early service every morning in St. Paul's. His religious fervor resulted in homicidal mania toward the women of the street and impelled him to murder them. He lodged with a man whom I know, and suspicion was first directed toward him by reason of the fact that he returned to his lodgings at unreasonable hours; that he had innumerable coats and hats stained with blood. I have in my possession now a pair of Canadoan moccasins stained with blood that the Ripper wore while on one of his murderous expeditions, but at that time they refused to co-operate with me.

                  Subsequently the young man was placed in confinement and removed to an asylum, where he is today. Since his incarceration there has been no repetition of the horrible murders that he perpetrated. These facts are all known to the English authorities, and it is conceded that the man now in the asylum is Jack the Ripper. It was deemed desirable, however, to hush the matter up. The details were too horrible to be made the subject of a public trial, and there was no doubt of the man's hopeless insanity."


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                  • #10
                    Nemo:
                    That's one probable source, if not the definite source, of that country asylum reference.
                    On a different note, Nemo, notice that this article emanated from Indiana ( there are probably others found in American papers around the same time, if we look ).
                    It seems to be worded in a way ( the remark about "These facts are all known to the English authorities, and it is conceded that the man now in the asylum is Jack the Ripper") that it was made for the American press ( I may be wrong...)
                    Thanks for the transcription, pardner.
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                    • #11
                      TP

                      Hello Howard. Thanks.

                      OK, I'll grant that. But I was thinking that TP had backed Cutbush when we went to "the Sun."

                      And DSS got AK's death date skewed a bit. (heh-heh)

                      Cheers.
                      LC

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                      • #12
                        old hat

                        Hello Robert. Thanks.

                        Indeed. But not the first time in this case.

                        Cheers.
                        LC

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                        • #13
                          I agree, How. I think what Nemo posted fits it pretty well. So, was George Sims just part of the propaganda machine, putting his name behind various 'The Ripper is dead and we won't name him' theories?

                          Yours truly,

                          Tom Wescott

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                          • #14
                            Tom:
                            On another Sims-related vibe....

                            I get this other feeling , namely that Sims is essentially poking and probing around ( as with Littlechild in 1913....ten years after the Figaro source materialized ) because he either isn't certain of what he had been led to believe in terms of the dead Ripper...and/or he wants corroboration for what he'd been told.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
                              Sounds like more of Mac's fairy tale. O'Connor probably learned it from Sims.
                              ...Who learned it from Griffiths... who learned it from Anderson... who only thought he knew.
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