Tracy...
At the time, Holmes's crimes did get attention...don't misunderstand me...but by the turn of the century, the case had faded away for the most part and coming upon an article in the early 20th century papers mentioning the murders is uncommon.
CG;
Its a sad fact that you're correct about that....books on Holmes being the Ripper sprang out all over in the last couple of years.
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Hi Chris
I tend to disagree, no-one would publish a book just for profit - on that note would you like to purchase my new book 'I was abducted by aliens' by Jack the Ripper
Or the cement poured on top while he was still alive.
I would vote for this one definitely!
Tracy
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Originally posted by Tracy Ianson View PostYes I know a few people who think he was a good suspect for Jtr, although I am not one of them, I didn't realise until the documentary that he was in an asylum in 1888.
I didn't realise that there wasn't much publicity at the time either, I just assumed he was wider known at the time, or at least the murders/missing people were. It seems unbelievable how easy he got away with so many killings, insurance scams, I guess maybe it is more a case of no-one would believe someone could be so evil/greedy. If memory serves me right he even killed his henchman's children?
I mean call me bitchy or childish but if it was me I personally would have contributed his body to medicine or cremated him or something rather than give him his request of cement being poured on top.
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Originally posted by Howard Brown View PostTracy;
Considering how often he's been mentioned in our time ( since the earlier part of the 21st Century ), its surprising that Holmes's name wasn't one the layman would come across very frequently prior to 2000. I suspect the interest in Jack The Ripper, kicking up the dust and revealing other murderers, might have been a factor in him becoming more well known....along with the work by Erik Larson, The Devil In The White City, which is a well recieved, best selling book.
One reason for this semi-notoriety, not the only one, that comes to mind is that Holmes's crimes had already been committed...there was no ongoing 'reign of terror', only Detective Geyer's pursuit and even then no one was sure of how many crimes he committed...they still weren't, even after his confession in 1896.
I didn't read the last PDF, but he's buried in Holy Cross Cemetery, Lansdowne ( west of Philly)
Perhaps Holmes has not been mentioned in connection with the Ripper murders because, until now, people had more sense than to connect a Chicago for-gain serial killer with his "Murder Castle" with the bloody murderer-mutilator in the streets of Whitechapel. But today, when no holds are barred and anyone is free to name anyone as the East End killer, well, shucks, why not?
All the best
Chris
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Yes I know a few people who think he was a good suspect for Jtr, although I am not one of them, I didn't realise until the documentary that he was in an asylum in 1888.
I didn't realise that there wasn't much publicity at the time either, I just assumed he was wider known at the time, or at least the murders/missing people were. It seems unbelievable how easy he got away with so many killings, insurance scams, I guess maybe it is more a case of no-one would believe someone could be so evil/greedy. If memory serves me right he even killed his henchman's children?
I mean call me bitchy or childish but if it was me I personally would have contributed his body to medicine or cremated him or something rather than give him his request of cement being poured on top.
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Tracy;
Considering how often he's been mentioned in our time ( since the earlier part of the 21st Century ), its surprising that Holmes's name wasn't one the layman would come across very frequently prior to 2000. I suspect the interest in Jack The Ripper, kicking up the dust and revealing other murderers, might have been a factor in him becoming more well known....along with the work by Erik Larson, The Devil In The White City, which is a well recieved, best selling book.
One reason for this semi-notoriety, not the only one, that comes to mind is that Holmes's crimes had already been committed...there was no ongoing 'reign of terror', only Detective Geyer's pursuit and even then no one was sure of how many crimes he committed...they still weren't, even after his confession in 1896.
I didn't read the last PDF, but he's buried in Holy Cross Cemetery, Lansdowne ( west of Philly)
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Thanks How, I cannot believe he requested to be buried under the cement......because he was worried someone would steal his body?!
I thought it may not have been, I admit to not knowing a lot about Holmes but having him on record is something I think would be widely published.
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Tracy:
Here's a PDF of an Inquirer which mentions the vault Holmes was placed in.
That wax cylinder really doesn't have Holmes's voice on it.
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Hi How
I watched a documentary on Holmes a few weeks back and in it it showed clips of him confessing to the murders on a old gramophone (I think it was), I am not sure if this was really his voice or just part of the documentary, but was quite chilling to watch how easily he got away with so many murders.
Tracy
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Holmes Confession 1896 PDF
The Philadelphia Inquirer had the copyright on the confession....
Philadelphia Inquirer
April 12, 1896
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