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  • Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
    Jon:
    I don't think the author of the book realized that the two 1913 murders of women working on Ponce De Leon street involved women living directly across the road from each other.
    I didn't realize that either. Serial killers are known for re-visiting the same sites..
    A little correction to make, Mary Ruffian was living on Ponce De Leon, where as Lula was on her way to work.
    But thanks for the detection.

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    • Reign of Crime Grips Atlanta.

      I forgot how I made the image appear before, but I will attempt again.
      file:///C:/Users/student/Downloads/Reign%20of%20Crime.pdf
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      • Ripper worth $250 to capture

        file:///C:/Users/student/Documents/RIPPER%20WORTH%20250%20TO%20CAPTOR.pdf
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        • Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
          145 miles to the east of Atlanta.....

          Augusta Chronicle
          March 28, 1913
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          Is this Augusta, Georgia or another Augusta?

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          • A little correction to make, Mary Ruffian was living on Ponce De Leon, where as Lula was on her way to work.

            Good point, Jon...I overlooked that part...damn it !

            Yes JA.....that's Augusta, Ga...third biggest city in the state.

            I almost forgot to thank you for the additional articles....much appreciated, Jon.

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            • Steve Fennessey's Atlanta's Jack The Ripper.....



              http://clatl.com/atlanta/atlantas-ja...nt?oid=1257657

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              • Atlanta Constitution
                July 30, 1914
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                • Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                  Atlanta Constitution
                  July 30, 1945
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                  1945! Damn the ripper's killing spree lasted that long?
                  Nah, I am just joking with ya. You meant to say 1914

                  Too bad the Atlanta Police did not use fingerprinting until 1918, when the ripper was winding down his killing spree.

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                  • Excellent point, Jon....it is surprising they were so slow about using them.

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                    • Gettysburg Times
                      February 17, 1912
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                      • Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                        Excellent point, Jon....it is surprising they were so slow about using them.

                        Many American police departments were slow in adapting them, despite the fact that fingerprinting was used in criminal cases in Argentina since 1891. The police were still using Bertillions measurements even though they were useless in crime scene investigations and only 2/3 good when it came to criminal identification.
                        The ripper left finger prints in at least one of his crimes, that of Mary Putnam(who had her heart pulled out in Nov, 1911) but the police did not bag it as evidence just like they ignored the fingerprints in the Phagan case.

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                        • Another problem for the APD was the small detective force. They had 15 detectives of the force. Some serial killer task forces had more detectives than that, for example, the Yorkshire Ripper task force had 120 detectives. The Atlanta Child Murders Task Force had 106 detectives, including at least 33 feds.
                          The APD should have requested aid from outside police but they refused all outside aid.

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                          • FORCE SMALL SAY OFFICIALS: Chief Lanford Reports to the Mayor on Murder Convictions T

                            Newport Lanford, Chief of Detectives responds to letter by blacks.
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                            • July 19,1915

                              Another victim
                              file:///C:/Users/emperor%20john/Downloads/Ripper43.pdf

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                              • Mary Yeldell

                                file:///C:/Users/emperor%20john/Downloads/Mary%20Yeldell.pdf
                                There are two versions of this story. This one has him demanding that she take her clothes off. The other version has him saying nothing, but coming to Yeldell quickly and quietly.

                                The latter story makes more sense.
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