Aaron Kosminski : Re-evaluating the Sources 2015

[CGP]

"And it was specifically this new wave of immigration into Londons new East end that Anderson was referring to… I noted with interest that many of this community attended Inspector Abberkline retirement at the Three Nuns"

One problem with trying to tie up Aaron Kozminski with Sagar's suspect is that the Jewish tradesmen in Butchers' Row had been born either in London well before the wave of Jewish immigration in the 1880s, or in the Netherlands:
http://wiki.casebook.org/index.php/B...dents_-_People

[Scott Nelson]

To say nothing of the abbattoirs behind Butcher's Row.

[Jeff Leahy]

Abberlines retirement

"so tradesmen in attendance included several individuals who worked in the immediate vicinity of the Three Nuns Hotel.6 Isaac Davis presided over the ceremony. His brother-in-law was Henry Nathan, a butcher who had a shop at no. 46 Aldgate-High Street, across the street in Butchers’ Row. Two other butchers were in attendance that night, J(James) Hawkins and F(Frederick) Louisson, both of whom also had shops in Butchers’ Row, at nos. 55 and 57, respectively. Also present were: J(Joseph) Levy, a tailor who ran a shop at no. 79 Aldgate-High Street, down the street at the corner of the Minories; Levy’s father-in-law, H(Henry) Gluckstein, who had a tobacco shop at no. 13 in the hotel with a man named Salmon; I(Isaac) Abrahams, Henry’s brother-in-law, a cigar maker residing at 212 Whitechapel Road; and Frederick W. Ayers, the landlord of the hotel."

Opposite 37 Aldgate High Street was 45 Butchers Row (Aldgate High Street), Butcher Joseph Hartwell in 1888.

Aldgate High Street
43 Coal Merchant
44 Meat Salesman (Butcher)
45 Butcher's � Not occupied at night
46 Meat Salesman (Butcher)
47

Not occupied at Night.
Yours Jeff

[Jeff Leahy]

OPening of Holloway Asylum

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3001002

My thanks to Catrin for sending me this article on the opening of Holloway Asylum..

Quite a grand celebrity affair by all accounts, thanks to those beautiful ladies

Yours Jeff

[Jeff Leahy]

"And it was specifically this new wave of immigration into Londons new East end that Anderson was referring to… I noted with interest that many of this community attended Inspector Abberkline retirement at the Three Nuns"

One problem with trying to tie up Aaron Kozminski with Sagar's suspect is that the Jewish tradesmen in Butchers' Row had been born either in London well before the wave of Jewish immigration in the 1880s, or in the Netherlands:
http://wiki.casebook.org/index.php/B...dents_-_People

OK CGP, You've obviously got an opinion differing from the various sources I currently have coming in..

Clearly the Polish?German/Russian community are key.

And Anderson is quite clear about a certain 'Community"

What we need to know is where were the Kalish community in autumn 1888?

What shop's did they own, and did they require a 'Night watchman'? Did the community protect the killer as Anderson claims? (Most probably)

I think i have the answers to many of these questions, it is a complicated picture but it is about communities, synagog's, and human beings..

Cracking the 'code' is close

YOurs Jeff

[CGP]

OK CGP, You've obviously got an opinion differing from the various sources I currently have coming in.

I've summarised the information I could find about the proprietors of the shops along the south side of Aldgate High Street here:
http://wiki.casebook.org/index.php/B...dents_-_People

As I said, the Jewish ones were born either in London or the Netherlands. Have you found information to contradict that?

[Jeff Leahy]

Abrahams, Samuel Gluckstein

Its the first of these that I'm interested in. Particularly marriages.

THere seems to be a connection to Abberlines retirement and the signing of Montagu's partition.

Yours Jeff

[Jeff Leahy]

Further: I'm not certain Alfred Salmon was of Dutch descent.

The parents of his father Barnett Salmon (Alfred´s grandparents) married on 29 August 1827 in London.

ANd the family seem to have married Abrahams suggesting a community connection.

Yours Jeff

[CGP]

Abrahams, Samuel Gluckstein

You may find this account of his death interesting:
On Friday last, whilst he was on his way to Liverpool Mr. Samuel G. Abrahams, of Sutherland Avenue, was seized with a fainting fit and before the train left Stafford his two friends with whom he was travelling - Mr. Abraham M. Pool and Mr. H. Coevell - found that he had expired. The body was brought up to London on Saturday night, and the funeral on Sunday, at Willesden Cemetery, was largely attended by mourning relatives and many sympathising friends. Mr. Abrahams was only 26 years of age, and was of a very amiable disposition. His kindness of heart prompted him to do many a kindly charitable deed, and the messages of regret and sympathy with the family are numbered by thousands. The deceased leaves a widow and two children of tender age.
[Jewish Chronicle, 14 February 1896, p. 11]

But what I'm saying is that these people were born either in the Netherlands, or else in London a long time before the large-scale immigration from Poland in the 1880s. I think Polish connections are unlikely.

[Jeff Leahy]

You may find this account of his death interesting:
On Friday last, whilst he was on his way to Liverpool Mr. Samuel G. Abrahams, of Sutherland Avenue, was seized with a fainting fit and before the train left Stafford his two friends with whom he was travelling - Mr. Abraham M. Pool and Mr. H. Coevell - found that he had expired. The body was brought up to London on Saturday night, and the funeral on Sunday, at Willesden Cemetery, was largely attended by mourning relatives and many sympathising friends. Mr. Abrahams was only 26 years of age, and was of a very amiable disposition. His kindness of heart prompted him to do many a kindly charitable deed, and the messages of regret and sympathy with the family are numbered by thousands. The deceased leaves a widow and two children of tender age.
[Jewish Chronicle, 14 February 1896, p. 11]

But what I'm saying is that these people were born either in the Netherlands, or else in London a long time before the large-scale immigration from Poland in the 1880s. I think Polish connections are unlikely.

Hi CGP

Yes thanks for that its most interesting.

Philip Abrahams : http://www.geni.com/people/Phillip-A...00005736379891

I think the important connection is there were broadly two kinds of Jews Sephardic and AShkenazi which is the important difference

Synagogues in the parish
The history of Jewish settlement and life in East London has been extensively researched and written about. This is purely a record of the known synagogues that existed, for longer or shorter periods, in or close by this parish. The historic roots of East London Jewry were in Spitalfields and Whitechapel, but spread over time east towards Bethnal Green, and south into this area.
All but one (see here) were Orthodox and Ashkenazi in their foundation and ritual. This was for two reasons: primarily because most of the settlers were from Eastern Europe, but also because the establishment of Sephardic synagogues in the area was inhibited by the presence of the historic Bevis Marks synagogue on the edge of the City, representing a somewhat different style of Jewish life, which reacted nervously to the new influx.

THis link gives more: http://www.stgite.org.uk/media/synagogues.html

What I'm trying to establish are links between the Salmon and Abraham families and new Ashkenazi immigrants from province of Kalish

MAny thanks

Yours Jeff

[Jeff Leahy]

Taken Yesterday at Colney Hatch

[Roy Corduroy]

Jeff you mentioned Holloway

From A Dictionary of Psychological Medicine by Daniel Hack Tuke, Vol II 1892, page 1088

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[Roy Corduroy]

Journal of Mental Science Vol 37, 1891

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Commissioners Report of the seaside branch

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[Edward Stow]

I would suggest that a mad and potentially dangerous Jewish inmate from a poor background would have stood out like a sore thumb at either of those establishments - neither of which sound very secure.

[Jeff Leahy]

Interesting that they took money in advance for a quarter.

No surviving Male register found so far I will run this past Surrey History Museum

Many thanks

Jeff