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  • House of Lechmere YouTube Channel. Jack the Ripper: The Evidence for Guilt. Part Two

    House of Lechmere YouTube Channel.
    Jack the Ripper: The Evidence for Guilt. Part Two

    The first part is by far the fastest growing film so far on the channel in amassing views, likes and comments... Will Part Two be as successful?

    The evidence mounts up!
    Another complex film to edit.


  • #2
    I started watching and it definitely puts things in perspective. You'd definitely have a case if you could say positively that Lechmere was telling the truth or accurate or could state positively that he was lying when you think he was lying.

    However, too many facts and "factoids" when 7 minutes and the 2 minute gap are really all that's concrete and relevant. All you need to do is to prove that the 7 minutes are not workable as far as sightlines for the two men. I know it's almost impossible to replicate but I think it's workable looking at Google Maps and cross-referencing with the Whitechapel Location Finder of 1899.

    I'd do the walk over and station someone at Paul's approximate location, which would now be the entrance to Laurel Academy, I'm guessing. Or you could just start both there, Lechmere passing the entrance and Paul just going down the pathway, and see how far Lechmere would get before Paul gets to Darling Row. But you'd have to go through the Saisbury Dept. Store. That's if you agree with the 5 minutes from 22 Doveton St to Foster and Laurel.

    I put Lechmere at the Laurel Academy entrance (Foster St) at the 5 minute mark of his walk. In the final 2 minutes Lechmere is easily around the corners on Brady and then Bucks Row. Paul would have left immediately after Lechmere passed give or take a minute and they'd be out of each other's sightlines until Bucks Row and Lechmere's stopping in the road.

    If that's the case, and it's workable, then there's nothing to make you suspicious except Lechmere's self-incriminating timeline which would not make sense for a killer who knows the cutting time.

    And did you factor in PC Neil's beat down Brady St for the 3:20 departure for Lechmere? I think Neil could still be on Brady at 3:25-3:26. Would earlier than 3:20 really work?

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    • #3
      From where Paul lived at 30 Foster Street, Lechmere would always be out of view of Paul.

      Nothing to see here as they say.

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      • #4
        2 men leather aprons going to work the same way? Questions if they carried on as normal would they have passed the police officer coming towards them? Instead they went back down the street looking, for a police officer? So if that's the daily route why not one stay with the victim and the other carry on up the road inform the police officer on duty that day who you would have passed on a normal day, instead of looking for one? They found Misen knocking people up for work? So how early have these two leather aproned characters got up to go to work? Plenty to see if you look, and a part of a leather apron has also been found on a torso murder victim as well I think?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Brian Allan View Post
          2 men leather aprons going to work the same way? Questions if they carried on as normal would they have passed the police officer coming towards them? Instead they went back down the street looking, for a police officer? So if that's the daily route why not one stay with the victim and the other carry on up the road inform the police officer on duty that day who you would have passed on a normal day, instead of looking for one? They found Misen knocking people up for work? So how early have these two leather aproned characters got up to go to work? Plenty to see if you look, and a part of a leather apron has also been found on a torso murder victim as well I think?
          Why do you imagine they were wearing leather aprons?

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          • #6
            Brian, I think you’re mixing up the carman’s smock with the aprons in the narrative. Although, I don’t think there’s much of a difference between these outer garments.

            Your JtR Team theory makes sense given the mainstream narrative. That narrative and a suspected team of Rippers such as you’re suggesting, at least his being someone already involved in some type of organized crime, is, I believe, widely shared, and an unspoken driving force behind fact-based but not overtly “suspect/suspect profile-based research.

            Nevertheless, the timing can be made to work exactly for Lechmere to avoid Paul's view at every corner until Buck's Row. So I wouldn’t jump to conclusions.

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            • #7
              Only if there telling the truth? Example one gives the wrong name, if misen was waking people up, how early did Paul and leachmere really get up that morning,?

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              • #8
                I think Lechmere could have left at the time of the cutting - at 3:35-3:40. His own testimony rounding off the time is what incriminates him. They either didn’t get their stories straight and/or they didn’t know about the bleed out times.

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                • #9
                  Bucks Row, as you know, is where, shall we say, the "rubber meets the row" and this "Dunking Pond" is where the "waters are the least muddied". There are not competing witnesses and major timeline discrepancies of more than ten minutes or so. This is where we should dive in.

                  Evidence for Guilt Pt 2 needs a Part 3 and another re-enactment. It doesn't prove for a fact that Lechmere was much more than 2 minutes ahead of Paul.

                  It's possible he was up to 10 minutes ahead. He'd practically need all of that to commit the crime. He'd also need the victim to be there practically waiting for him.

                  Then you need a motive. Lust killer? Terror? Organized crime? Why pick only unfortunate women?

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                  • #10
                    What about harvesting body parts, in say for instance wombs in various stages of pregnancy? Wrapped up with the initiation of a top level position in a well established organ isation? Poor people cannot be blamed, are you sure this is not what was written on the wall ,example most people cannot read or write, in the coroners words ,Wynnes words. so who would be capable of writing on the wall? It's back to sherlock, who could read or✍

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                    • #11
                      I go with the crimes being cold-blooded so you have 3 theories for the organ removal - harvesting, black magic arts or Masonic ritual.

                      I’d automatically rule out simple harvesting for say science because of the public locations and risk factor. Black Magic Arts would also be eliminated unless there was a ritualistic purpose that makes this harvesting for magical power akin to UFOs and cattle mutilation in an open field. But then you could consider Black Magic and Masonic Rites if they are just a signature and not an MO.

                      Most people steer their research toward lust murderer and/or murderous pimp but that’s probably the last thing one would think of here. You’d still need to have a motive or a signature to explain the organ removal.

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                      • #12
                        I could give the names of 3 high ranked people of the time, all Dr's who could have been connected, one admitting to viewing one of the victims in the morgue, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to use people's names? How many students went to the university in 1888, was there experimental studies being carried out ìn any university institutions 1888, studies of the brain ie strokes, mental health, memory tests on the eyes re photographed eyes of the Mary Kelly?

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                        • #13
                          You could give their initial followed by asterisks for each subsequent letter of their name. That might generate extra interest.

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                          • #14
                            The photographer as organ iser , a methodological mind, the second photographer could have taken before and after pictures ( some may still exist? Worth a look if I'm right? Could they be trophies of the 1888s ) ,re Catherine, Stride and Mary, all photographed post mortem , I tried to see if I could see 👀 any signs of lavidity on the post mortem pictures, so could work out how they layed after death , re was it Mary or someone else?. The last man was shock,and could be 100 percent innocent, still to me he could be a factor, what is the common denominator of most of the torso victims and jtr murder the removal of what body parts, who would be the best man, to ask about them specific body parts in1888 ? And its not stephan seagull, sherlock!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Edward Stow View Post
                              You could give their initial followed by asterisks for each subsequent letter of their name. That might generate extra interest.
                              Brian is bringing up a good point about the motive of Jack the Ripper or a suspect like Lechmere or team Lechmere and Paul. Hillside Stranglers with organ snatching for a Tumblety?

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