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  • #31
    Originally posted by Gary Barnett View Post

    Do you imagine the Baltic Exchange was a home from home for sailors?

    And when do you imagine it was established at St Mary Axe?
    Nope.

    St May Axe was/is it's last address.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Gary Barnett View Post
      Many, many moons ago I used to work with a shipping operations man named Jeff Blum - I wonder if this is him?

      http://www.aldgatewardclub.org/wp-co...b-to-share.pdf
      I just scrolled down to the photo of JB. It looks very much like the man I worked with.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by D.J.Adams View Post

        Nope.

        St May Axe was/is it's last address.
        So where was it ‘near’ in 1888?

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        • #34
          Threadneedle Street IIRC.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by D.J.Adams View Post
            Threadneedle Street IIRC.
            And the relevance of that is …?

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            • #36
              Perhaps I’ve misunderstood. I was thinking that you thought the closeness of St Mary Axe to Mitre Square was somehow significant.

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              • #37
                Nope.Threadneedle Street.

                Sutton's family were Master Mariners who plied the Baltic Sea when he was young.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Gary Barnett View Post

                  I just scrolled down to the photo of JB. It looks very much like the man I worked with.
                  Manfred_Mann_(1967).jpg Member of one of my favorite groups.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                    Thread inspired by D.J. Adams to discuss Sutton's role, if any, in the Whitechapel Murders
                    Thanks Howard however I've had enough.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by D.J.Adams View Post
                      Nope.Threadneedle Street.

                      Sutton's family were Master Mariners who plied the Baltic Sea when he was young.
                      Was there a Baltic Exchange in 1888?

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                      • #41
                        HGS’s father, Henry Sutton, seems to have been a baker and grocer rather than a master mariner. It was his uncle, Theophilus Jonas, who was at one time a sea captain.

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                        • #42
                          Ah! River = River Phoenix = Mrs Phoenix = Mrs Felix = Felix the Cat … and we know what cats used to eat. So, that puts either Charles Allen Lechmere or his contemporary my gg grandfather Thomas Henry Barnett well and truly in the frame.

                          I’m sorry to be so flippant, Dave, but certain aspects of your theory aren’t far off that.

                          THB was the first person I ever considered as my own home-grown suspect. The outline of his life is remarkably similar to that of CAL. Plus:

                          He ‘prolly’ knew Henry Tomkins.

                          He had an uncle named Joseph Barnett.

                          He was a knacker.

                          He lost a child in early 1888 from a condition he may have blamed on his profession.

                          He ended his life in a mysterious Home for Incurables in Raynes Park.

                          There’s a bit more.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by D.J.Adams View Post

                            Once the policeman had passed,Eddowes was taken out the window,through the gate and into Mitre Square.
                            If Dave decides to resume this thread, I'd like to ask him if Eddowes was taken out of this window dead or alive? And did the gate in the corner of Mitre Square open-up or was it boarded shut?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post

                              If Dave decides to resume this thread, I'd like to ask him if Eddowes was taken out of this window dead or alive? And did the gate in the corner of Mitre Square open-up or was it boarded shut?
                              Eddowes would have been dead when Sutton removed the two cholesterol deposits on her eyelids.That would have been done indoors with a small scalpel and light,not in the dark with the large blade.
                              Hence she was dead before taking her out through the window.There was no blood spray in Mitre Square.

                              Sketches of the gate show it was not boarded up at the time.

                              Her face cuts show the initial infection sites of Rheumatic Fever.

                              The cut to her groin shows she most likely had cancer.Most likely why her uterus was removed.

                              Add it all up,including the uncanny timing of 14 minutes between Watkin's beats..... eddowes_diagram1.jpg SINUS2.jpg Cancer nodes.jpg

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Gary Barnett View Post
                                HGS’s father, Henry Sutton, seems to have been a baker and grocer rather than a master mariner. It was his uncle, Theophilus Jonas, who was at one time a sea captain.
                                They were both Master Mariners with their own ships.

                                Times were tough,Henry lost his ship and became a grocer.

                                Theophilus was declared bankrupt on May 4,1830,before HGS was born.

                                All well before 1888.

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