Henry Gawen Sutton

[Gary Barnett]

|n case it helps anyone on this thread the Baltic Exchange works on arranging and pricing of ships cargoes and other technical matters relating ship's paperwork.
St. Mary Axe is no more than a Street but at one time was home to the Head Offices of various shipping companies; today St. Mary Axe is home to many law companies speciallising in marine law matters..

Hope you all have a Great New Year.
John

Thanks, John!

As posted above:

http://www.aldgatewardclub.org/wp-co...b-to-share.pdf

However, the Baltic exchange wasn’t in St Mary Axe until the early 20th century, so why is it relevant? I’m just curious as to how the fact that the exchange relocated to a street close to Mitre Square in 1903 fits into Dave’s theory?


Happy New Year!

[John Savage]

|n case it helps anyone on this thread the Baltic Exchange works on arranging and pricing of ships cargoes and other technical matters relating ship's paperwork.
St. Mary Axe is no more than a Street but at one time was home to the Head Offices of various shipping companies; today St. Mary Axe is home to many law companies speciallising in marine law matters..

Hope you all have a Great New Year.
John

[Gary Barnett]

They were both Master Mariners with their own ships.

Times were tough,Henry lost his ship and became a grocer.

Theophilus was declared bankrupt on May 4,1830,before HGS was born.

All well before 1888.

That’s interesting, Dave. What can you tell us about the ship Henry Sr lost.

[D.J.Adams]

HGS’s father, Henry Sutton, seems to have been a baker and grocer rather than a master mariner. It was his uncle, Theophilus Jonas, who was at one time a sea captain.

They were both Master Mariners with their own ships.

Times were tough,Henry lost his ship and became a grocer.

Theophilus was declared bankrupt on May 4,1830,before HGS was born.

All well before 1888.

[D.J.Adams]

If Dave decides to resume this thread, I'd like to ask him if Eddowes was taken out of this window dead or alive? And did the gate in the corner of Mitre Square open-up or was it boarded shut?

Eddowes would have been dead when Sutton removed the two cholesterol deposits on her eyelids.That would have been done indoors with a small scalpel and light,not in the dark with the large blade.
Hence she was dead before taking her out through the window.There was no blood spray in Mitre Square.

Sketches of the gate show it was not boarded up at the time.

Her face cuts show the initial infection sites of Rheumatic Fever.

The cut to her groin shows she most likely had cancer.Most likely why her uterus was removed.

Add it all up,including the uncanny timing of 14 minutes between Watkin's beats.....

[Scott Nelson]

Once the policeman had passed,Eddowes was taken out the window,through the gate and into Mitre Square.

If Dave decides to resume this thread, I'd like to ask him if Eddowes was taken out of this window dead or alive? And did the gate in the corner of Mitre Square open-up or was it boarded shut?

[Gary Barnett]

Phoenix.

This Is Serious Mum - TISM - (He'll Never Be An) Ol' Man River - YouTube

Ah! River = River Phoenix = Mrs Phoenix = Mrs Felix = Felix the Cat … and we know what cats used to eat. So, that puts either Charles Allen Lechmere or his contemporary my gg grandfather Thomas Henry Barnett well and truly in the frame.

I’m sorry to be so flippant, Dave, but certain aspects of your theory aren’t far off that.

THB was the first person I ever considered as my own home-grown suspect. The outline of his life is remarkably similar to that of CAL. Plus:

He ‘prolly’ knew Henry Tomkins.

He had an uncle named Joseph Barnett.

He was a knacker.

He lost a child in early 1888 from a condition he may have blamed on his profession.

He ended his life in a mysterious Home for Incurables in Raynes Park.

There’s a bit more.

[Gary Barnett]

HGS’s father, Henry Sutton, seems to have been a baker and grocer rather than a master mariner. It was his uncle, Theophilus Jonas, who was at one time a sea captain.

[Gary Barnett]

Nope.Threadneedle Street.

Sutton's family were Master Mariners who plied the Baltic Sea when he was young.

Was there a Baltic Exchange in 1888?

[D.J.Adams]

Thread inspired by D.J. Adams to discuss Sutton's role, if any, in the Whitechapel Murders

Thanks Howard however I've had enough.

[D.J.Adams]

I just scrolled down to the photo of JB. It looks very much like the man I worked with.

Member of one of my favorite groups.

[D.J.Adams]

Nope.Threadneedle Street.

Sutton's family were Master Mariners who plied the Baltic Sea when he was young.

[Gary Barnett]

Perhaps I’ve misunderstood. I was thinking that you thought the closeness of St Mary Axe to Mitre Square was somehow significant.

[Gary Barnett]

Threadneedle Street IIRC.

And the relevance of that is …?

[D.J.Adams]

Threadneedle Street IIRC.