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    More about Jack's DNA on those !@#$%^& letters. Maybe Sickert was a closet tranny?

  • #2
    Originally posted by admin View Post

    More about Jack's DNA on those !@#$%^& letters. Maybe Sickert was a closet tranny?

    This is another old story, originally published in the Daily Mirror, May 20, 2006.

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    • #3
      Funny you should post that, Tim. I finally broke down and acquired William Stewart's tome from Loretta Lay. It arrived yesterday.

      Is there a way to read the transcript of Pearcey's trial ?

      If Jack was indeed Jill, what woman could have behaved with such chilling brutality?

      The chief suspect is Mary Pearcey. Born in 1866, she was brought up by her mother and elder sister after her father, Thomas Wheeler, was convicted of murder and executed.

      In 1890, two years after the Ripper killings, she was convicted of murdering her lover's wife and their baby daughter - a crime that was to send her to the scaffold.

      The double murder bore striking similarities to the Ripper killings. All the victims had their throats cut. Each was killed in private and dumped in a public place.

      The question whether Mary would have had the physical strength to carry out the murders was answered by Sir Melville Macnaghten, assistant commissioner of the Metropolitan Police.

      HE wrote of her: "I have never seen a woman of stronger physique... her nerves were as iron cast as her body."

      Mary, said to have "lovely russet hair and fine blue eyes", never worked and suffered from recurring periods of depression. She was a heavy drinker and spent most of her time in the company of wealthy men.

      Then she fell in love with furniture remover Frank Hogg - but he was already married to a younger woman called Phoebe and had a young daughter.

      On October 24 Phoebe called at Mary's house in Kentish Town, North London, after being invited for tea. At 4pm neighbours heard screaming and the sickening sounds of violence.

      That evening Phoebe's corpse was found on a heap of rubbish at Hamp-stead, North London. Her face was wrapped in a cardigan, her skull had been crushed and her head was nearly severed from her body.

      A black pram was found a mile away, its mattress soaked in blood.

      Phoebe's 18-month-old baby was found dead, apparently smothered, in Finchley.

      Witnesses said they had seen Mary pushing the pram around the streets after dark. And when police searched her home they found blood splattered on walls, ceilings, a skirt, an apron, a fire poker and a carving knife.

      Mary insisted she had been merely killing mice. And while her house was being searched by police she sat at her piano, playing popular tunes.

      When she was arrested and charged, she was found to be wearing Phoebe Hogg's wedding ring.

      She constantly protested her innocence throughout the trial at the Old Bailey, but was convicted and hanged, aged 24, on December 23 1890.


      • #4
        Originally posted by SirRobertAnderson View Post
        Is there a way to read the transcript of Pearcey's trial ?
        Apologies if this link has been posted before, but here's the Old Bailey online record:

        ... it's a good, long read.


        • #5
          Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
          Thanks ! That's exactly what I wanted.

          It doesn't appear that she messed with the internal organs.


          • #6
            Originally posted by SirRobertAnderson View Post
            Thanks ! That's exactly what I wanted.

            It doesn't appear that she messed with the internal organs.
            Although "mess" seems to have been the operative word seeing as she does not seem to have been the least bit careful in committing her crimes. A poor choice as a suspect in the Whitechapel murders I should say.

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              • #8
                Doesn't the recent Mystery Quest documentary...which John Malcolm ( for one ) saw.....posit the notion that Pearcey or a woman at least, was Jack The Ripper or maybe just not exclude that possibility ?
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                • #9
                  Thanks for the link, Tim.

                  Here's the section dealing with Stewart's theory.

                  William Stewart was one of the first to write about the possibility of Jill the Ripper in his book Jack the Ripper: A New Theory, published in 1939. In it, he attempted to narrow down not the identity of the killer but the class of person he might have been by asking four pertinant questions:

                  1. What sort of person was it that could move about at night without arousing the suspicions of his own household or of other people that he might have met.

                  2. Who could walk through the streets in blood stained clothing without arousing too much comment.

                  3. Who would have had the medical knowledge and skill to have committed the mutilations.

                  4. Who could have been found by the body and yet given a satisfactory alibi for being there.

                  Stewart's prime candidate, in following with the conversation between Abberline and Dutton over fifty years before, was that the killer had been a midwife -- possibly an abortionist. He speculates that "she might have been betrayed by a married woman whom she had tried to help, and sent to prison -- as a result, this was her way of recenging herself on her own sex."

                  Stewart mentioned the above ideals of the theory (anatomical knowledge, reason to be bloodstained, et alia) in order to back up the assertion.

                  Specifically, Stewart seems to have been focused on the fact that a midwife would have been able to "almost instantly produce unconsciousness, particularly in persons given to drink, by a method frequently used on patients in those days by midwives who practised among the extremely poor." In other words it is suggested that midwives found it common practise to knock out their patients by exerting pressure on the pressure points.

                  Mainly, however, Stewart banks on the fact that Mary Kelly was three months pregnant at the time of her death. She could barely afford her lodgings, let alone a baby, so, according to Stewart, she decided to terminate her pregnancy. He claims that the murderer was called in to abort the baby and killed Kelly once she was admitted into the room, later burning her bloodsoaked clothing in the grate and escaping wearing Kelly's clothing.

                  This is important, because it explains the sighting by Mrs. Maxwell at 8:00 the next morning -- she could possibly have seen the midwife/abortionist in Kelly's garb: the shawl of which she remembered to have been worn by Kelly.

                  Stewart provides other points which suggest that the murderer was a woman. First he claims that Nichols' bonnet, which she had mentioned in her now famous line to her landlord: "I'll soon get my doss money, see what a jolly bonnet I've got now," was given to her by the mad midwife as a gift. He claims that if a man had given it to her, she would have boasted of the fact.

                  Also, Stewart asserts that Chapman's pockets were turned inside out because inside was held incriminating evidence which could have identified her as the murderer. After the contents were disarranged at the victim's feet, the midwife decided to arrange them cryptically in order to throw off the police.

                  In answer to the question of why the midwife would remove organs from her victims, Stewart claimed that she would have the sufficient anatomical knowledge to do so and that it was an obvious ploy to direct attention away from her. He noted, "the particular mutilations practised by the killer held a psychological fascination and horror for all women, and as a result physiological reactions took place among women and in places remote from the scenes of the murders."

                  Stewart also believes his theory explains the reason why Mary Kelly was unclothed and her clothes were neatly folded on a nearby chair -- the prostitute had stripped for a routine medical abortion from the midwife she had contracted. Hence, the midwife struck upon her unsuspecting victim.

                  Mrs. Mary Pearcey

                  Having thus set the stage for the character of his killer, Stewart continued his assertions by suggesting that the modus operandi between his mad midwife and a Mrs. Mary Pearcey were similar. She had stabbed her lover's wife and child to death and cut their throats, later wheeling the bodies into a secluded street. These crimes were committed in October of 1890.

                  Stewart claimed there were two striking similarities -- first, the "savage throat-cutting," and second the m.o. of killing in private and then dumping the body in a public place (which would explain why there were no witnesses who heard any Ripper victims scream.)

                  Mary Pearcey was described by Sir Melville Macnaghten. He wrote, "I have never seen a woman of stronger physique.... her nerves were as ironcast as her body." She was executed at the scaffold on December 23rd, 1890 -- but before the execution, she arranged to place an advertisement in the Madrid newspapers which read, "M.E.C.P. last wish of M.E.W. Have not betrayed."

                  Another interesting point -- Stewart disregarded Elizabeth Stride as a victim, claiming the press jumped hastily to that conclusion due to the murder of Eddowes on the same night. He cites the fact that her throat was cut from left to right, whereas the other victims' throats were slashed from right to left. Following his lead, this leaves four victims and four strikingly interesting dates:

                  31 August, Friday. Polly Nichols.

                  8 September, Saturday. Annie Chapman.

                  30 September, Sunday. Catharine Eddowes.

                  9 Novemeber, Friday. Mary Kelly.

                  The pattern was noted even during the time of the murders, and many linked it with the arrival of cattle boats on the Thames on Thursdays and their departure on Mondays. Stewart, however, believes there must be another explanation.

                  All in all, the Jill the Ripper theory is an interesting one, but many consider it to be extremely weak. Many cite the fact that Stewart placed too much emphasis on the killer being blood-stained by the murders -- in fact, if the murderer strangled his victims as is commonly believed, the blood circulation would no longer be sufficient to cause large amounts of blood to be splatted during the mutilations. Also, many criticize his conclusion due to the fact that no victim other than Kelly was known to be pregnant and, in fact, due to many of them being alcoholics, the possibility of them being pregnant is quite slim.

                  Tom Cullen, author of Autumn of Terror, believed that Stewart had overlooked a much more plausible theory along similar lines. He believed that Joseph Barnett, the male companion of Mary Kelly, had dropped hints which revealed that Kelly had definite lesbian tendencies. Eventually, Barnett was thrown out of Kelly's housing and replaced with Maria Harvey, the suspected lesbian lover of Mary Kelly. Perhaps the possibility of a vengeful female would have been more worthy.

                  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, creator of Sherlock Holmes, believed that Jack the Ripper disguised himself as a woman in order to avoid capture and become more readily accesible to other women.

                  Everybody has heard the story of the notorious Jack the Ripper, a serial killer who murdered 5 prostitutes and The notorious serial killer who stalked London's East End, butchering prostitutes and terrorising the population, may not have been Jack the Ripper - but Jill The Ripper. Did she carry her dark secrets to her death when she was hung for other murders.


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                    Was Jack the Ripper a woman?


                    Just ignore the perimeter material.


                    • #11

                      More in this vein, from the unlikeliest source imaginable.


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                        Is this the face of Jack/Jill the Ripper?


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by admin tim View Post

                          Is this the face of Jack/Jill the Ripper?

                          SPERO IN DEO


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