Peterborough Maybrick DNA 'No Match'

[Markus Aurelius Franzoi]

Public "Peterborough Maybrick" submitted sample for AncestryDNA. See discussion and screenshots. (Facebook and Scribd links on Geni defunct. Tinypic links work):

https://www.geni.com/discussions/121541?by_or_about=6000000012784669209

Back to the drawing board?

[Markus Aurelius Franzoi]

Here's a picture of what is purportedly a necktie pin that belonged to James Maybrick. It was sent to me by a "Peterborough Maybrick".

I have access to his AncestryDNA results so I can actually find evidence of James Maybrick ancestry by looking at the cousin match Family Trees and prove he is a Maybrick or at least a Robertson since the Maybrick line is illegitimate.

[Paul Butler]

The Peterborough Maybricks are the ones alleged to be descended from James and Sarah Maybrick/Robertson aren't they? I'm not sure what dna could prove now as there's nothing to compare it with is there?

[Markus Aurelius Franzoi]

Hi, Paul,

It could help prove the validity of their claim and the accuracy of AncestryDNA.

I have no reason to doubt either one.

[Markus Aurelius Franzoi]

James Maybrick's alleged daughter Margaret Minetta Maybrick married Mark Woolstone but, according to Ancestry Family Trees, she also "married" Edward Coney and had at least one child.

I wonder if that's really Coney or a corruption of Conconi (the step grandfather's family name so maybe a step relative).

Name Margaret Minetta Maybrick
Spouse Edward Coney
Father James Maybrick
Mother Sarah Ann Robertson
Children Annie
Birth 1874 London, Middlesex, England
Residence 02 Apr 1911 Whittlesey Rural, Cambridgeshire, England

Right now I found 3 cousins matches of the "Peterborough Maybrick" with pedigree matches to Coney in England. Two are Coney family or famlies from Essex and one are Coney-Worth (Connyworth) from Yorkshire.

[Paul Butler]

This is interesting. I shall be pleased to read more on this, particularly as one good source tells us that all of James's illegitimate offspring with Sarah had died. The chapter on the Peterborough Maybrick's in Feldman is fascinating and also, as with a lot of that book, rather bewildering.

[Markus Aurelius Franzoi]

I can't find Margaret Minetta Maybrick's first "marriage" to Mark Woolston but I'm guessing these are her supposed to be her marriages when she's over 50.

Marriages Mar 1925
Mattin Charles Maybrick Peterbro' 3b 293
Maybrick Margaret E Mattin Peterbro' 3b 293

Marriages Dec 1942
Coney Edward Mattin Horncastle 7a 1463
Mattin Margaret Coney Horncastle 7a 1463

[Markus Aurelius Franzoi]

This is the Peterborough Maybrick line I'm talking about:

When Emily Menetta Maybrick was born on February 16, 1909, in Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England, her father, Mark (Woolston/Woolstone), was 50, and her mother, Margaret (Minetta Maybrick), was 35. She had one child with George Samuel Porter and one other child (private). She died on September 29, 1990, in her hometown at the age of 81.
Ancestry Family Trees Lifestory

[Gary Barnett]

This is the Peterborough Maybrick line I'm talking about:

When Emily Menetta Maybrick was born on February 16, 1909, in Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England, her father, Mark (Woolston/Woolstone), was 50, and her mother, Margaret (Minetta Maybrick), was 35. She had one child with George Samuel Porter and one other child (private). She died on September 29, 1990, in her hometown at the age of 81.
Ancestry Family Trees Lifestory

Alice McKenzie’s parents married in Whittlesey.

[Paul Butler]

Probably just a coincidence but it's spooky seeing that Conie is so similar to Conconi to note that Margaret's grandmother Jane's second husband was Maybury according to Feldman.

[Gary Barnett]

Probably just a coincidence but it's spooky seeing that Conie is so similar to Conconi to note that Margaret's grandmother Jane's second husband was Maybury according to Feldman.

Of course it’s a coincidence.

[Paul Butler]

Alice McKenzie’s parents married in Whittlesey.

It's a small world sometimes. Doing my own family research I discovered my great grandfather was born a few miles from Whittlesey in Ramsey, and I thought I was thoroughbred Devonian.

[Markus Aurelius Franzoi]

Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005

Name: George S Porter
Registration Date: Jul 1934 [Aug 1934] [Sep 1934]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Huntingdonshire North
Inferred County: Huntingdonshire
Spouse: Maybrick
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 775


If our Peterborough Maybrick AncestryDNA user is from the Robinson/Maybrick/Woolston line, then a Coney familial match would only come from a Maybrick/Coney descendant matching a Maybrick/Woolston with shared Maybrick DNA. Unless Coney was already a Robinson relation and then there might be shared Coney DNA. The Maybrick Coneys appear to be legitimate Coneys from Horncastle in Lincolnshire according to BMD. The AncestryDNA cousin matchs have Coney from Yorkshire and Essex.

[Gary Barnett]

Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005

Name: George S Porter
Registration Date: Jul 1934 [Aug 1934] [Sep 1934]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Huntingdonshire North
Inferred County: Huntingdonshire
Spouse: Maybrick
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 775


If our Peterborough Maybrick AncestryDNA user is from the Robinson/Maybrick/Woolston line, then a Coney familial match would only come from a Maybrick/Coney descendant matching a Maybrick/Woolston with shared Maybrick DNA. Unless Coney was already a Robinson relation and then there might be shared Coney DNA. The Maybrick Coneys appear to be legitimate Coneys from Horncastle in Lincolnshire according to BMD. The AncestryDNA cousin matchs have Coney from Yorkshire and Essex.

“Inferred County: Huntingdonshire” 🤔

[Paul Butler]

The county boundaries around that way have changed a lot since then.