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  • SirRobertAnderson
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    Originally posted by Cris Malone View Post
    A report in the Isle of Wight County Press, August 30th, 1913 (edited by myself, CM):
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    When he wrote his first song, “A Warrior Bold,” he was living in chambers. He had a bad cold and was unable to sing at Wolverhampton, where he had an engagement. While in bed he wrote the words and music of that song and took it to Mr. Arthur Chappell, of Chappell and Co.
    Thanks again!

    Not to get too giddy but you could torture this article to get it to point to the time between A Warrior Bold and Nancy Lee as a period when he might have written other lyrics.

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  • Cris Malone
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    A report in the Isle of Wight County Press, August 30th, 1913 (edited by myself, CM):

    When he wrote his first song, “A Warrior Bold,” he was living in chambers. He had a bad cold and was unable to sing at Wolverhampton, where he had an engagement. While in bed he wrote the words and music of that song and took it to Mr. Arthur Chappell, of Chappell and Co. When the latter wanted to know what it was like he sang it to him.
    He said he would take five guineas for it, but Mr. Chappell said “What! For an unknown composer?” It ended in his selling his first song for 5s. But there was a royalty attached, and that had gone a long way beyond four figures. Some time after he wrote “Nancy Lee,” he thought in 1878. That was also written when he was in bed, with a bad cold…

    Mr F. E. Weatherly, who composed the words of “Nancy Lee.” “The Midshipmite,” “The Star of Bethlehem,” “The Holy City,” and other songs for “Stephen Adams” to set to music was formerly a law coach at Oxford. He still writes songs and has a large practice as a barrister on the Western Circuit. .

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  • Paul Butler
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    That settles that then.

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  • SirRobertAnderson
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    Originally posted by Cris Malone View Post
    An obituary for Michael Maybrick in an Isle of Wight newspaper states that Maybrick wrote the music and lyrics to A Warrior Bold while Weatherly apparently wrote the lyrics to the rest starting with Nancy Lee.
    Thanks! Greatly appreciated!

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  • Howard Brown
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    An obituary for Michael Maybrick in an Isle of Wight newspaper states that Maybrick wrote the music and lyrics to A Warrior Bold while Weatherly apparently wrote the lyrics to the rest starting with Nancy Lee.

    - BattleCris Malone-....


    Thanks, Cuz....

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  • Cris Malone
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    An obituary for Michael Maybrick in an Isle of Wight newspaper states that Maybrick wrote the music and lyrics to A Warrior Bold while Weatherly apparently wrote the lyrics to the rest starting with Nancy Lee.

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  • SirRobertAnderson
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    Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
    Paul:

    It figures that I don't remember where or even if I posted it here....I do remember seeing sheet music. Sorry.
    WELCOME TO THE SENIOR CENTER RIPPER CHAT

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  • SirRobertAnderson
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    Originally posted by Paul Butler View Post
    That would be very interesting indeed How, if you did. Edwin and Thomas were two of the Maybrick brothers of course. I wonder if there was also a Stephen and an Adam in Michael's life at one time.
    And yes of course it must be admitted that someone other than MM could have used the Edwin Thomas pseudonym. However, I sincerely doubt it.

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  • SirRobertAnderson
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    Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
    Bob:

    Was Edwin Thomas Michael's only pseudonym that you can recall ?

    I might be mistaken, but I thought I found a song which he wrote under a different name....the lyrics that is.
    I think you are right. I seem to remember something you found.

    Christ, I used to know a lot more lol......

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  • Howard Brown
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    Paul:

    It figures that I don't remember where or even if I posted it here....I do remember seeing sheet music. Sorry.

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  • Paul Butler
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    Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
    Bob:

    Was Edwin Thomas Michael's only pseudonym that you can recall ?

    I might be mistaken, but I thought I found a song which he wrote under a different name....the lyrics that is.
    That would be very interesting indeed How, if you did. Edwin and Thomas were two of the Maybrick brothers of course. I wonder if there was also a Stephen and an Adam in Michael's life at one time.

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  • Howard Brown
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    Bob:

    Was Edwin Thomas Michael's only pseudonym that you can recall ?

    I might be mistaken, but I thought I found a song which he wrote under a different name....the lyrics that is.

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  • SirRobertAnderson
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    Originally posted by Cris Malone View Post
    Hi Bob,

    I thought Maybrick went under the name Stephen Adams, which would (as with his other compositions) make him the composer of the musical score with Edwin Thomas as the Lyricist. If I am incorrect, I am open to being enlightened.

    https://www.loc.gov/item/ihas.100004170/
    Edwin Thomas was MM's pseudonym. (Livia Trivia's find from awhile back. I believe it is mentioned in Bruce's book)

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  • Cris Malone
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    Originally posted by SirRobertAnderson View Post
    Correct. A Warrior Bold, in fact. He used the pseudonym Edwin Thomas.

    It's actually one of the reasons I believe the Diary was written by either Michael, or someone that knew him well and shared his views on Flo. The entire document is basically about how smart and wise and amazeballs Michael was.

    As an aside the lyrics to A Warrior Bold kinda read like the Diary with all its melodrama and hideous doggerel.
    Hi Bob,

    I thought Maybrick went under the name Stephen Adams, which would (as with his other compositions) make him the composer of the musical score with Edwin Thomas as the Lyricist. If I am incorrect, I am open to being enlightened.

    https://www.loc.gov/item/ihas.100004170/

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  • SirRobertAnderson
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    Originally posted by Paul Butler View Post
    Absolutely. The diary doggerel much more resembles Victorian parlour song lyrics than poetry. I'm certain that's what the diarist intended, whoever he or she might have been.

    Yet ere he died, he bravely cried
    I've kept the vow I swore;
    So what care I tho' death be nigh,
    I've fought for love, and die.


    That uncannily sounds like the Diary verse.

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