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  • Originally posted by Michael Banks View Post

    I believe that I’ve read somewhere that those chambers did have living quarters Gary so he had chambers and his quarters at the school but would it have been impossible or unlikely the he might just have booked into a hotel? There can have been nothing suspicious for anyone at reception with someone arriving late evening after a train journey. And who would pay any particular attention to him returning in the early hours. Another rich bloke with too much time on his hands out at some gambling club all night.

    Druitt had somewhere to stay in London.
    Great minds Michael! I posted before reading yours.

    Love,

    Caz
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    • Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post

      Nothing but conjecture-ripperology is rife with it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      along with a constant barrage of "what if`s" "I think" "maybe`s" "Could have`s" and "Perhaps"

      www.trevormarriott.co.uk
      It’s about possibilities, Trevor. We are stress testing a possible alibi.

      Your theories are as rife with conjecture as everyone else’s.

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      • Originally posted by Michael Banks View Post

        I believe that I’ve read somewhere that those chambers did have living quarters Gary so he had chambers and his quarters at the school but would it have been impossible or unlikely the he might just have booked into a hotel? There can have been nothing suspicious for anyone at reception with someone arriving late evening after a train journey. And who would pay any particular attention to him returning in the early hours. Another rich bloke with too much time on his hands out at some gambling club all night.

        Druitt had somewhere to stay in London.
        Yes, I’ve read that too.

        There are gates into the Temple at various points, in the Strand and the Embankment. Public access is limited to weekdays, but residents and members of the Inns of court can/could presumably come and go as and when they please.

        https://www.london-walking-tours.co....court-tour.htm

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        • Originally posted by Caroline Brown View Post

          Great minds Michael! I posted before reading yours.

          Love,

          Caz
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          It can’t be impossible or even unlikely Caz.
          Regards

          Michael🔎


          " When you eliminate the impossible whatever remains no matter how improbable......is probably a little bit boring "

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          • The Times, Saturday August 11th 1888 -

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            • So thanks to the good offices of Mrs Brown, we finally come to the logical conclusion that had Druitt made this special journey up to London immediately after his cricket match, then he must have stayed in a hotel somewhere - and indeed he could have deposited his cricket bag in his hotel room.
              That his work place was called a Chambers seems to confuse some people no end. Yes some people lived in the chambers - there are records of this - in very specific rooms. Druitt was not one of these. The overall precincts of the Temple was and is locked after hours . His Chambers would have been locked - it was shared office space. Not a doss pad. Check the treads on this. It has been extensively discussed before.
              Bear in mind that he could have got an early morning train to conduct whatever hypothetical business he had in London on 31st. So, again logically, his desire to go up late the night before can only have been motivated by his desire to kill - a premeditated desire as he must have pre-packed his trusty knife in his cricket bag before setting off from Wimborne for Blandford.
              Or where did he get his weapon?
              Was he drawn to Whitechapel by the Tabram murder (tap tap tap). Was that reported extensively in the press? Was it a cause celeb?
              Or now his alibi for the Tabram murder is less secure, did he do that one as well - was this his second? If so what drew him to George Yard Buildings?
              Just saying that if he did it something must have drawn him there is what is known as a circular argument. Or that serial killers engage in any imaginable madness (when discussing some theories anyway).

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              • Pearson’s 21/12/1895



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                • Tap, tap, tap…

                  Who knows, Foggy may have inadvertently been the ‘onlie begetter’ of all the WM.

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                  • Perhaps - either him or Druitt!

                    So Monty had to blag his way past the doorkeep before even getting to King's Bench Walk... hopefully sans claret on his colars and cuffs.

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                    • Originally posted by Edward Stow View Post
                      Perhaps - either him or Druitt!

                      So Monty had to blag his way past the doorkeep before even getting to King's Bench Walk... hopefully sans claret on his colars and cuffs.
                      And wouldn’t that doorkerp have been suspicious of Druitt turning up in cricket whites.
                      Regards

                      Michael🔎


                      " When you eliminate the impossible whatever remains no matter how improbable......is probably a little bit boring "

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                      • I have deleted five more posts on both sides.

                        Any more posts containing comments about the protagonists personally will be deleted. If you want your contributions to be visible, just comment exclusively about the arguments, not about the people making them.

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                        • I don't think there is any particular meaning to be gleaned from it, but it is interesting to note that Inspector Frederick Abberline was born in Blandford Forum and lived there for many years.

                          His mother Hannah Abberline died there in December 1887, and when he was about to retire in 1892 the Blandford Weekly News published a small notice.


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                          • Abberline’s last address was in Holdenhurst Road, Bournemouth. I worked at 80, Holdenhurst Road in the 1970s, in this building.
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                            • I'll move this comment here:


                              Originally posted by Edward Stow View Post
                              The Chummery was close to where Druitt's body was found.
                              RJP you must have been ruminating on this matter for weeks, waiting for an opportunity to expound!
                              Hi Ed. Yes, I've been ruminating over Druitt for quite some time, and my comment finally erupted.

                              It's nothing too startling--I just noticed with considerable surprise that both you and Trevor were still giving credence to the old 'Chummery' suggestion first made by Skinner and Howells some 40 years ago.

                              If MJD was headed to the "Chummery" he would have bought a ticket for Ravenscourt Park train station. He didn't--his ticket was from Charing Cross to Hammersmith.

                              Hammersmith makes little sense--it was one stop too soon. Further, MJD could have traveled directly to Chickswick via Waterloo.

                              In brief, there were three ways to get from Central London to the Chummery, and buying a ticket to Hammersmith would have been the worst choice.

                              As you know, the Thames is tidal, so where the body ended up doesn't tell us much.

                              The 'Chummery' theory was bizarre in the extreme--MJD was supposedly murdered by the "homosexual mafia." How did the "mafia" manage to plant a suicide note in Blackheath?

                              If you believe Druitt was connected to Wilson and the Chummery, do you also accept that he was bumping elbows with Prince Albert Victor?

                              Let's not forget where this strange theory was headed!

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                              • This thread is supposed to be strictly about the cricket match and possible travel upwards to London, not general Druitt ruminations... isn't it RJP?

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