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    The aliases used by Ostrog

    My fave is "Max Grief" ( Maximum grief...).

    Count Sobieski
    Dr. Grant
    Bertrand Ashley

    If you can recall one or more, please share it.
    Thank you.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by How Brown View Post
    My fave is "Max Grief" ( Maximum grief...).
    My mother in law has adopted that one.

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    • #3
      Some from the criminal registers, How

      John Sobieski
      Ashley Mabakon
      Mutters Ostrogoe

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      • #4
        Listed in the Complete A-Z:


        "Bertrand Ashley, Dr Barker, Claude Cayton or Clayton, Max Grief Gosslar, Max Kaife Gosslar, Dr Grant, ‘Grand Guidon’, Stanislas Lublinski, Ashley Nabokoff, Orloff, Henry Ray, Count Sobieski, Max Sobieski and maybe 20 other aliases."

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        • #5
          The Manchester Times records one alias as Bertrand Ashleigh
          on January 10, 1874.
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          • #6
            Thanks very much J.G., Debs, and Mike !

            Debs...imagine if he used an alias of an alias like....Mutters Grief ?!?!
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            • #7
              Originally posted by How Brown View Post
              The aliases used by Ostrog

              My fave is "Max Grief" ( Maximum grief...).

              Count Sobieski
              Dr. Grant
              Bertrand Ashley

              If you can recall one or more, please share it.
              Thank you.
              Hi Howard et al.

              I thought at first that this article you posted in the other thread, which I have pasted below, makes it look as if it was not "Bertrand Ashley" but two separate surnames, Bertrand and Ashley. But I have not read fully the charges against Ostrog and all the information on him. I see though looking again that it might be just a mark on the image between the two names. Don't mind me.

              Incidentally, until I went there a few weeks ago, I had not realised that Eton is right next to Windsor. When Donna and I were in Windsor in the second week October to meet my cousin Haydn George and his wife, we had a meal in Eton at a pub named, appropriately enough, The George. We toured the famous Castle, including the Royal apartments and St. George's Chapel where I saw Prince Albert Victor's tomb, and then went across the bridge to Eton, a walk of a mere ten minutes or so.... closer than the Ripper murder sites. Swans were being fed at waterside both times we passed over the bridge.

              Chris

              Originally posted by How Brown View Post
              Question...

              Melville Macnaghten was educated at Eton and this incident occurred during the year after he left the school.

              Has this angle ever been pursued ( It might sound like a silly question, but I honestly don't recall if it has been mentioned or suggested )...that this theft by Ostrog at his alma mater might be, in some way, the reason Macnaghten mentioned this shady character in the 1894 report along with Kozminski & Druitt ?

              Birmingham Daily Post
              October 2, 1873
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              • #8
                The reason I set the thread up was to enable anyone looking for stories on Ostrog to have a wider range of names to choose from.
                Maria Birbili was interested in "Dr. Grant" but I fear that would require a hell of a lot of time. I looked yesterday, only for a short while, and came up with goose eggs.
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                • #9
                  I looked yesterday, only for a short while, and came up with goose eggs.
                  Woah How, that is a weird alias, guess it didn't get used very often

                  Tracy
                  If you're going to be two-faced at least make one of them pretty.

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                  • #10
                    Silly joke from 1955

                    Why did Jane Russel?

                    Because Max Factor.
                    Itsnotrocketsurgery

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                    • #11
                      Nux Vomica

                      Under this alias and out of jail, he once again attempts suicide.
                      I'd pay to have seen him being chased by 50 cadets....

                      The Standard
                      August 10, 1887
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                      • #12
                        Mr. Bigge. Wasn't he a Victorian rapper?

                        Chris
                        Christopher T. George, Lyricist & Co-Author, "Jack the Musical"
                        https://www.facebook.com/JackTheMusical/ Hear sample song at https://tinyurl.com/y8h4envx.

                        Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conferences, April 2016 and 2018.
                        Hear RipperCon 2016 & 2018 talks at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/.

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                        • #13
                          I can understand criminality but self destructive, certain to be caught criminal types like Ostrog and Le Grand somewhat bewilder me.

                          Is there a name for this condition?
                          Itsnotrocketsurgery

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Stephen Thomas View Post
                            I can understand criminality but self destructive, certain to be caught criminal types like Ostrog and Le Grand somewhat bewilder me.

                            Is there a name for this condition?
                            Professional convict?
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                            Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conferences, April 2016 and 2018.
                            Hear RipperCon 2016 & 2018 talks at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/.

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                            • #15
                              Stephen:

                              In reading the 1894 account of Ostrog returning to Macnaghten's alma mama....he seems to have a lot of chutzpah.
                              To not only rob again with a proven track record of eventually being caught...and to do it at the very institution he got nailed at 20 years prior leads me to think he had a high degree of confidence in knowing that he would be getting what he set out for.
                              I don't think he put that much thought into getting away with it for good though.
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