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    Howard Brown
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  • Howard Brown
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    Phil:
    Can't you see the posts from 2010 and yesterday ?

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  • Phillip Walton
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  • Phillip Walton
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    The last post #30 is dated 2007? Is this a computer glitch?

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  • Howard Brown
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  • Howard Brown
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    Thanks very much Dave...and good to hear from you !

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  • Dave Knott
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  • Dave Knott
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    An update (Expect a further one in another three years!)

    A newspaper report from 1889 states that Henry's Toronto accountancy business was in financial difficulty and that he was in England trying to launch a money lending concern. The company were described as 'assignees', so they managed trusts. Therefore it would be fair to say he was in London to raise funds for A Toronto Trust Society, if not THE Toronto Trust Society.

    I think this confirms beyond any doubt that he was Callaghan's suspect.

    As previously suggested, he fathered a son born in London in November 1890, although interestingly the birth certificate shows his name simply as 'Henry Smith'. The mother was the daughter of a boiler maker in Poplar. He was still married to his first wife in Canada at this time.

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  • Howard Brown
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  • Howard Brown
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    Thanks for the update David. Much appreciated,buddy.

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  • Dave Knott
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  • Dave Knott
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    A post over on Casebook just reminded me of this thread, so I thought I would drop by with a couple of updates.

    HWB has turned up on the 1891 Canadian census with wife number one. However, other evidence shows that he was with wife number 2 (not that it appears they were ever legally married) in 1888 or 1889. It seems that there was a bit of adultery going on. Interestingly, wife number 2 lived in Poplar, so HWB would have had to travel right through the heart of Ripper territory to visit her.

    It also looks as if Henry may have fathered a child by wife number 2 in 1890 (Frank, whose previously stated birth year of 1887 was apparently falsified in order to get into the US Army early)

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  • Dave Knott
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    I have just been sent a bizarre little booklet written by HWB in 1915 entitled 'A Plea For A Human Science' ... this is an extract from the introduction, to give you some idea of its contents: -

    The purpose and plan of these pages may therefore be stated, as follows:
    1st To establish that Universal law cannot be universal unless it is applied to humanity. Therefore, when we say "All things are governed by law and all laws govern all things" we do not make any exception in respect of man or man's affairs, so that man is law begotten and law controlled.
    2nd That the individuality of man is primarily the sum of a concatenation of forces measured out by his parents at the moment of conception and inherited from them and that this heredity furnishes the quantitative element on the differentiation of the individual.
    3rd That sex is the result of preponderance of positive and negative polarity in the female and male parents respectively.
    4th That the hour of birth is more or less determined by hereditary selection, so that man is born in a planetary hegemony that will correspond with the hereditary individuality.
    5th That the planetary forces become the element by which direction is given to hereditary forces subject to the primary direction of sexual polarity.
    6th That the directions established by planetary influences and the activities resulting from the combinations of these influences reacting upon and through the environment give to the individual an habitual mental and physical attitude towards his environment which constitutes his character and determines the natural course of events and activities in his life.
    7th That this predestined course of life and activity can only be changed by a force that has the power to change the directions and modify them and that a new direction or directions may be established as the habitual attitude of the individual.
    8th That these changes are wrought by the power of Hypnotic suggestion which includes parental control and example. The force and example of teachers and their teaching ,and companions, and religious phenomena.
    9th That the force of hypnotic suggestion both external and automotive is limited to the mental grasp of the ideas suggested and that therefore our ideas of higher goodness must determine our attainment thereto.

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  • Dave Knott
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    AP, you could be right, it would certainly make sense of his statement about having large wealth at his command.
    The connection with the 'Surrey side of the water' is interesting as well, as he lived to the south (albeit Kent rather than Surrey) from circa 1870 - 1878.
    His known addresses before moving to Canada are: -
    1851 2 Brunswick Villas, Hammersmith
    1861 5 Drayton Grove, Kensington
    1871 138 Alexandra Cottages, Beckenham (occupation Draper's warehouseman)
    In 1881 he is on the Canadian census, and 1900, 1910 and 1920 the New York census. I can't find him in 1890/1891, probably because he was in England during the US census and vice versa.

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  • AP Wolf
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  • AP Wolf
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    Nice work, Dave, and a very nice connection.
    Regarding the St Georges Society of America and Canada I think you to be right, but it is worth keeping in mind that there may well have been a melding of interests here between charitable and business organisations, in that if you look at the setting up of the 'American, British and Colonial Insurance Company' in 1881 in London with a million pound float in shares, you will soon see that the major directors of the newly formed company were in fact the charitable directors of the St Georges Society of New York and Montreal.
    My feeling is that such an organisation, leaning towards social charity, but meantime making a killing on the stock exchange, may well have been Bellsmith's true occupation.

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  • Dave Knott
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    The executive director of the St Georges Society has replied already - HWB was not a member, but his older brother Frederic Marlett was, so there is a connection!

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  • Dave Knott
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    With regard to the St Georges Society, I have e-mailed them to see if their membership records show anything - interestingly there was another St Georges Society in New York (where HWB ended up), that had the same stated purpose.

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  • Dave Knott
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  • Dave Knott
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    AP, Thanks for your comments.

    To me, the use of the words 'Trust Society' rather than 'Trust Company' implies something of a more charitable nature, as does the statement that his purpose in England was to 'raise money'.

    I think that HWB's book supports the notion that he was a charitable / political fund-raiser (but certainly nothing to do with trusses!)

    I did wonder whether the organisation in question might have been the St Georges Society of Toronto Charitable Trust Fund, which looked after poor English immigrants (still going to this day)

    David

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  • AP Wolf
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  • AP Wolf
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    Thanks David, there were in fact two 'trust' companies operating out of Toronto in the years that concern us.
    The 'National Trust Company' of Toronto and the 'Union Trust Company' of Toronto.
    My feeling is that it is much more likely that Bellsmith was a representative of such a company in London - heavily involved in the stocks and shares of new electricity companies and the like - and this could explain the many hours he spent scribbling in books... as some kind of accountant.
    I mean how much can you write about a truss?
    'Okay, Wentworth, we're sending you to London to see what the truss market is like over there, perhaps there's a killing to be made amongst the ruptured lords of blighty, never mind electricity, the truss is the way forward...'
    Errr. I don't think so.
    Good thread, David, lots to think about.

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  • Dave Knott
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  • Dave Knott
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    AP,

    Yes - there have been a few interesting incidents involving Bellsmiths through the years.

    Regarding the Toronto Trust Society, I have never found any trace of such an organisation. I think it might have been connected to another socialist group, which seems to have been HWB's thing.

    I think that 'Truss Society' is a red herring thrown in by the authors of the A-Z on the basis that the offices of the City Of London Truss Society (for the ruptured poor!) had offices in the vicinity of Bellsmith's lodgings.

    I have discovered some more of HWB's writings which are being sent over to me in England, so hopefully I will have some more to report soon.

    David

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  • AP Wolf
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  • AP Wolf
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    Dave, funny enough but there was a Bellsmith who went to Africa around that time, but to Kenya, and he got himself shot and murdered in Malindi by a local bandit.
    I must dig out the dates.

    The 'Toronto Truss Company' bothers me as well. Surely the 'Toronto Trust Company' is meant?
    How many Trusses did London need in the LVP?

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