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    Last night, I went over the section of the A to Z covering Thomas Hayne Cutbush.
    On page 122, the last paragraph and running over to the top of page 123, I noticed the following :


    According to Inspector Race, Cutbush asked" Is this for the Mile End job ? I mean, the public house next to the Syndicate ( Synagogue ), where I just missed her that time. They took me to be of the
    Jewish persuasion, and I got away
    . " According to The Sun, it was discovered there was a public house next to a synagogue and at about the middle of September 1888, a prostitute declared in the public bar that a young man she had been talking to was Jack The Ripper. He immediately ran away. The incident was but briefly reported in the daily paper under the heading of "ANOTHER JACK THE RIPPER SCARE. " but a description of the man pointed out by the woman was given as that of a "young man of 27 or 28 years, slight of build and of Jewish appearance, his face being thin and sallow" ( according to The Sun, February 17, 1894).

    This is what was written in The Sun in the February 17th issue (found in Casebook's Press Section ):

    THE MILE END JOB.
    I pass to another branch of the case. It will be remembered that the charge on which the man was brought up was that of stabbing girls. When he was arrested he had a most significant observation. "Is this," he said, " for the Mile End job? I mean the public house next to the Syndicate where I just missed her that time. They took me to be of the Jewish persuasion."
    Now this is an extraordinary observation in connection with the facts we are about to relate.
    Inquiries were made for any trace of the "Mile End job in the public house next to the Syndicate," to which the lunatic referred on his arrest. It was discovered that next to the Jewish Synagogue in the East end there is a public house and that during the Jack the Ripper period of 1888 some disturbance was one night caused at the bar of the public house by a fallen women screaming that Jack the Ripper was talking to her. She had been drinking and conversing with a young man of slight build and of sallow features, and she pointed to him when she made the startling announcement that he was Jack the Ripper. The man immediately took to his heels, departing with an alacrity that prevented all pursuit. The incident was but briefly reported in the daily papers under the heading of "Another Jack the Ripper Scare."
    But a description of the man whom the woman pointed out was given as that of a young man of 27 or 28 years, slight of build and of Jewish appearance, his face being thin and sallow. This led to the theory entertained for some time that Jack the Ripper was a Jew.
    The public house incident took place about the middle of September.
    ****************************

    My question or rather, problem, with the article and entry in the A to Z is that there was no "Jack The Ripper" in or during the middle of September of 1888.

    Any ideas ?

  • #2
    None, captain. Insufficient data.

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    • #3
      Bump Up

      Robert....thanks for the reply.

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      • #4
        It sounds more like an 1889 event to me

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        • #5
          You might be right,Neems...thanks for the reply.

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          • #6
            Just as an observation wasnt Ada Wilson attacked in Mile End? Yours Jeff

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            • #7
              Yes Jeff but that was in March, so wrong month and too early for anyone to be screaming "Jack the Ripper" (as would be the September one too).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by How Brown
                Last night, I went over the section of the A to Z covering Thomas Hayne Cutbush.
                On page 122, the last paragraph and running over to the top of page 123, I noticed the following :


                According to Inspector Race, Cutbush asked" Is this for the Mile End job ? I mean, the public house next to the Syndicate ( Synagogue ), where I just missed her that time. They took me to be of the
                Jewish persuasion, and I got away
                . " According to The Sun, it was discovered there was a public house next to a synagogue and at about the middle of September 1888, a prostitute declared in the public bar that a young man she had been talking to was Jack The Ripper. He immediately ran away. The incident was but briefly reported in the daily paper under the heading of "ANOTHER JACK THE RIPPER SCARE. " but a description of the man pointed out by the woman was given as that of a "young man of 27 or 28 years, slight of build and of Jewish appearance, his face being thin and sallow" ( according to The Sun, February 17, 1894).

                This is what was written in The Sun in the February 17th issue (found in Casebook's Press Section ):

                THE MILE END JOB.
                I pass to another branch of the case. It will be remembered that the charge on which the man was brought up was that of stabbing girls. When he was arrested he had a most significant observation. "Is this," he said, " for the Mile End job? I mean the public house next to the Syndicate where I just missed her that time. They took me to be of the Jewish persuasion."
                Now this is an extraordinary observation in connection with the facts we are about to relate.
                Inquiries were made for any trace of the "Mile End job in the public house next to the Syndicate," to which the lunatic referred on his arrest. It was discovered that next to the Jewish Synagogue in the East end there is a public house and that during the Jack the Ripper period of 1888 some disturbance was one night caused at the bar of the public house by a fallen women screaming that Jack the Ripper was talking to her. She had been drinking and conversing with a young man of slight build and of sallow features, and she pointed to him when she made the startling announcement that he was Jack the Ripper. The man immediately took to his heels, departing with an alacrity that prevented all pursuit. The incident was but briefly reported in the daily papers under the heading of "Another Jack the Ripper Scare."
                But a description of the man whom the woman pointed out was given as that of a young man of 27 or 28 years, slight of build and of Jewish appearance, his face being thin and sallow. This led to the theory entertained for some time that Jack the Ripper was a Jew.
                The public house incident took place about the middle of September.
                ****************************

                My question or rather, problem, with the article and entry in the A to Z is that there was no "Jack The Ripper" in or during the middle of September of 1888.

                Any ideas ?
                Hi Howard et al

                Thomas Cutbush was arrested on March 9, 1891. Why would he reference a Mile End event of September 1888 at that late date? Isn't it more likely that he was referring to some incident closer to the date when he was arrested?

                All the best

                Chris
                Christopher T. George, Lyricist & Co-Author, "Jack the Musical"
                https://www.facebook.com/JackTheMusical/ Hear sample song at https://tinyurl.com/y8h4envx.

                Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conferences, April 2016 and 2018.
                Hear RipperCon 2016 & 2018 talks at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/.

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                • #9
                  According to The Sun, it was discovered there was a public house next to a synagogue and at about the middle of September 1888, a prostitute declared in the public bar that a young man she had been talking to was Jack The Ripper.

                  Chris, the above sentence is the issue...or one of the issues.
                  The name, Jack The Ripper, didn't appear until the beginning of October.
                  Hence, how could a prostitute state that the man she was talking to was Jack The Ripper in mid-September ?

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                  • #10
                    Yes but the Sun was trying to gild the lily to make it sound as if Cutbush was Jack the Ripper, weren't they?
                    Christopher T. George, Lyricist & Co-Author, "Jack the Musical"
                    https://www.facebook.com/JackTheMusical/ Hear sample song at https://tinyurl.com/y8h4envx.

                    Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conferences, April 2016 and 2018.
                    Hear RipperCon 2016 & 2018 talks at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/.

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                    • #11
                      CG:

                      That may well be true.

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