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  • #31
    You never know what catches someone’s eye or heart. I know Sickert’s mother was part Irish so that might have done it if anything.

    Anyway, he went to Dieppe as a single man in August of 1884. He had a lot of house guests in Dieppe so he could have used a nanny or a babysitter for them.

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    • #32
      The A to Z has more in what Pash “said” about Mary, including cleaning floors in the Infirmary and working in a shoddy shop (?).

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Gary Barnett View Post
        Who refers to them as pre-Raffaelite?
        Brazilian football fans?
        Kind regards, Sam Flynn

        "Suche Nullen"
        (F. Nietzsche)

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        • #34
          Originally posted by San Fran View Post
          The A to Z has more in what Pash “said” about Mary, including cleaning floors in the Infirmary and working in a shoddy shop (?).
          Who refers to her shop as “shoddy” (Pash or the A to Z) and what’s that supposed to mean?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by San Fran View Post
            Who refers to her shop as “shoddy” (Pash or the A to Z) and what’s that supposed to mean?
            I just posted on the Ochse thread, the true and original meaning of "shoddy".
            The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague.~~Voynich Manuscript

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Anna Morris View Post
              I just posted on the Ochse thread, the true and original meaning of "shoddy".
              Thanks, Anna. I'll put up the links here:

              https://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=30871

              https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/shoddy.html

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              • #37
                The Agelasto family connection here is distant so I want to show that the parties involved actually knew one another through business and friendship:

                The mother of Margaret Rawlinson (MJW’s niece) served Augustus Agelasto and his son Stephen. Stephen was a close associate of James Whistler’s “good friend”, Alexander Ionides.

                Stephen Agelasto and Alexander Ionides were co-directors of the London branch of the Bank of Constantinople and worked together at the Greek exchange and in charitable organizations.

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