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  • #16
    Hi Sean.

    Sorry for not responding to your earlier post sooner.

    There was no hardcover version of Woodhall's book, just the paperbacks. The book itself is not very good and certainly not a reliable source for anyone doing research into the Whitechapel Murders. It's more of a curiosity piece than anything, although a somewhat rare curiosity piece.

    Prices of Ripper books have fluctuated very greatly in the past ten years or so. My rather large collection is not worth as much as it once did, but then I don't worry too much about that. I just enjoy the collecting.

    Wolf.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Wolf Vanderlinden View Post
      Hi Sean.

      Sorry for not responding to your earlier post sooner.

      There was no hardcover version of Woodhall's book, just the paperbacks. The book itself is not very good and certainly not a reliable source for anyone doing research into the Whitechapel Murders. It's more of a curiosity piece than anything, although a somewhat rare curiosity piece.

      Prices of Ripper books have fluctuated very greatly in the past ten years or so. My rather large collection is not worth as much as it once did, but then I don't worry too much about that. I just enjoy the collecting.

      Wolf.
      Hi Wolf,

      No problem.

      Thanks for confirming. I did always wonder. So Woodhall actually wrote for Mellifont rather than them republishing all his earlier books.

      I'm the same, I just love collecting books, especially true crime, their values not being important to me at all. I don't own a kindle and much prefer reading a musty old book. I always find it fascinating contemplating the hands the book may have passed through over the years. And, if signed, the thought of the author having handled the book is, for me, exciting.

      My best regards,

      Sean.

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      • #18
        So what do you feel would be a fair price to ask for this rather obscure issue. I have done a lot of searching and this seems to be the rarest of all the issues/reprints. But that is not to say that it is the most valuable.

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        • #19
          I have 19 of the 29 Mellifont books, and they come in three different sizes:
          Large (21 x 14 cm) = Celebrated Crimes Series 1st Ed
          Medium (19.5 x 13.2 cm) = Celebrated Crimes Series 2nd Ed
          Small (17.7 x 12 cm) = Tower Series (3rd Ed)

          Most of the books are original, but Guy Logan made three of his four Mellifont books up from his previously published hardback crime books - only 'Monsters of Crime' is original..

          Most of the Mellifonts can be had for £10 or £20 in spite of being quite scarce. The JtR volume went for £41 on UK eBay a few years ago. It would probably sell for £90 today, but a specialist bookseller would charge more than that.

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          • #20
            And now half a year later I have 22 of the 29 books, lacking S.Todd, C.Peace, Donovan's Startling Crimes, Logan's Rope Knife & Chair, Villiers' Unsolved Murder Mysteries and Woodhall's JtR and Claude Duval. S.Todd and JtR have sold on eBay for £40 or so, but the other five I have never come across during the 15 years I have been collecting.

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            • #21
              Hi Jan,

              I really enjoyed reading Woodhall's autobiography, Detective & Secret Service Days (Jarrolds, 1929). This volume was republished by Mellifont, c.1935.

              I recall reading (somewhere) that Woodhall died a penniless alcoholic, despite the fact that some of his books enjoyed huge sales during his lifetime.

              Precise details on his later years are scant, but I'd love to learn more about him.

              My best wishes,

              Sean.

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              • #22
                Fast forward another half a year, and I now have C. Peace, 'The Master Criminal'. This actually a reprint of a 1913 book in the obscure series 'Pearson's Celebrated Crimes', and so are H.L. Adam's three instalments: Burke & Hare, Pritchard and Penge Mystery. Does anybody have a full set of the Mellifonts, and does anybody have any of Pearson's Celebrated Crimes, at least eight volumes,1912-3?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Jan Bondeson View Post
                  Fast forward another half a year, and I now have C. Peace, 'The Master Criminal'. This actually a reprint of a 1913 book in the obscure series 'Pearson's Celebrated Crimes', and so are H.L. Adam's three instalments: Burke & Hare, Pritchard and Penge Mystery. Does anybody have a full set of the Mellifonts, and does anybody have any of Pearson's Celebrated Crimes, at least eight volumes,1912-3?
                  I am just going off the top of my head and can check proper when I get home. But were the Pearsons Celebrated Crimes also published in a newspaper/magazine? The name Ladbroke Black is screaming at me. So if so the British Library may have copies? The name Pearson would I believe be in the title.

                  Rob

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                  • #24
                    I live just outside Edinburgh nowadays and The National Library of Scotland have Adam's 'Burke & Hare' and 'Penge Mystery' in Pearson Publisher's Celebrated Crimes series (1912-3), which I have verified are identical to his two Mellifont books with the same titles, which I have myself. 'Pritchard the Poisoner' of 1913 is held by the British Library, but I have no doubt it is identical with the Mellifont title with the same name

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                    • #25
                      Hi Jan,

                      Many of Woodhall's Mellifont Press titles often turn up on Amazon or Abebooks, although prices can vary considerably.

                      Loretta Lay (always worth checking with) stocks many rare books on true crime.

                      My regards,

                      Sean.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Rob Clack View Post
                        I am just going off the top of my head and can check proper when I get home. But were the Pearsons Celebrated Crimes also published in a newspaper/magazine? The name Ladbroke Black is screaming at me. So if so the British Library may have copies? The name Pearson would I believe be in the title.

                        Rob
                        The magazines I was thinking off was Pearson's Weekly from 1907. And the author Dick Donovan wrote some of the articles. Don't know if it is just a coincidence or there is a connection.

                        Rob

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                        • #27
                          I now have 24 of the 29 volumes, lacking only:
                          1 Sweeney Todd
                          10 Donovan, Starling Crimes
                          15 Logan, Rope Knife & Chair
                          16 Woodhall, Claude Duval
                          28 Villiers, Unsolved Murder Mysteries
                          Of these five, I have seen 1, 10 and 16 for sale, but never 15 or 28. It is 50:50 if I will be able to complete the set within my lifetime. Also there is the matter of the three different editions: the ideal would of course be to have all books in the desirable 1st edition but this most be well-nigh impossible.

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                          • #28
                            Back in 2014, there was a copy of Sweeney on eBay. I bid £41 but it went for £56. Last week there was another one and now I bid £61 and got it for just £10 Hahaha! Only four to go now.

                            Also I have noticed that among the Mellifont 1st Eds [large] some have the number on the top of the spine [10 of mine] and others [5 of mine] only have the title and no number. Are perhaps the unnumbered books later than those with a number?

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