The Devil's Derelicts

[Tom_Wescott]

Hi Nemo. Those pics are amazing and new to me. Thanks for all the info on the book. I think I need to get my own copy.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Robert Linford]

Thanks Nemo.

[Paul Kearney A.K.A. NEMO]

He does bear a resemblance Stephen

I'll check if there's a better date by reading the book Robert, but at the beginning he only says he was born on a midsummer's night 1845, when a really bad thunderstorm was at it's height - He was born and brought up when young in Edinburgh castle and says his cradle was over the crown-room where the regalia is kept

He doesn't give a date when he got married, but from the text it is shortly after the 1892 elections

Also at this time, he gets into a fight and the opponent dies - he says his trial, which took place at Leeds, lasting 2 days, caused widespread interest

He was acquitted

There may be more clues in the text Robert, I'll try and read it over the next few days

[Robert Linford]

Ooh, I know....ooh, I know...ooh, I know... (Mrs Vernon-Harcourt)

Nemo, does he give his birth date and marriage date?

[Stephen Thomas]

Hey, Vernon-Harcourt looks just like John Cleese.

[Paul Kearney A.K.A. NEMO]

As I was writing the above, "From Stage to Cross" arrived

It is the autobiography of FCVH and tells of some amazing adventures including reminiscences of the Crimea, being a Quack's assistant, joining the US army, a shark attack, Meeting General Gordon, deserting the army, escaping the Tay bridge disaster, escaping jail, joining the Confederate navy, helping to sink the Alabama, becoming an Evangelist etc etc

Phew, quite a life!

Here's the man himself and his wife...

[Paul Kearney A.K.A. NEMO]

Ps
Anyone with a "cushy" job, described in the book as an inside one, was almost always there due to infirmity or a disablement, otherwise they would be at work hewing stone like everybody else

There is a tale of one man who got in with the chaplain and so succeeded in working his way as an assistant in the infirmary to such a cushy job, but he seems to be the exception

There is a prisoner who was able to keep his antecedents to himself, away from warders and other prisoners, though the governor has the prisoners records and is able to see current and previous offences

There are no newspapers or other news from the outside of the prison

Any minor offence also means that the prisoner cannot write or receive letters for 6 months

Years of earning remission are also wiped out by one minor offence

[Paul Kearney A.K.A. NEMO]

These have probably been posted before...

(Sorry about the sizes Howard - please alter them at your discretion and convenience)

http://www.oldukphotos.com/dorset_portland.htm

Portland Prison in the 1890's



Portland convicts at work

[Paul Kearney A.K.A. NEMO]

Oops - apologies for the size - lol

[Paul Kearney A.K.A. NEMO]

It is mentioned that Harcourt travelled widely to investigate criminals and prisons so there is a chance one of the stories or illustrations will relate to a relevant prison such as Portland

The book arrived yesterday and I finished reading it earlier today

Well, the narrator appears to be Harcourt himself who is invited by an old friend Dr Markham, who remembers Harcourt's interest in prison reform, to come and stay for a couple of months at the prison where he has recently been made Principal Medical Officer

The prison? - Portland! - lol

The whole book is a narrative of prison stories, both new and old, and of the narrator witnessing the prison regime in action

There is therefore, a wonderful account of approaching the prison and ascending to the buildings, as well as descriptive accounts of the various parts of the prison, such as the punishment block and the infirmary

In general, it gives an insight into the regime that Grainger, Le Grand and others would have experienced

This includes your cell being an 8' x 4' corrugated iron box, no talking at all except on "association" with the threat of 3 days bread and water and being confined in a completely dark punishment cell with a plank for a bed for any offence

Offences include any type of insubordination, talking, shirking work, applying to the infirmary with a false illness and the like

At warder's discretion, the prisoner is sent to the hardest job, in the Portland quarries - the regime of bread, water and hard work often causing the prisoner to die or commit suicide

At one point, the Governor states that he is going to do everything in his power to cause the prisoner to commit suicide

There are stories of beatings and murder - mainly by the wardens!

Millbank prison and Dartmoor get a couple of mentions

Whitechapel is mentioned a number of times

One in which a cad hanged himself in a "low lodging house in Whitechapel"

The Jew in the picture below hails from Whitechapel

The Whitechapel coster prisoner has some wonderful expressions and the conversation with him is expressed in a Cockney manner

For example, in mentioning his sweetheart he says " I 'ad me eye on a gal wot was chief hengineer over a baked 'tater can" and when fighting a policeman said " at it we went 'ammer and tongs. But bless you, sir, e'd no science, and I walked round 'im like a cooper round a cask..."

The illustrations are usually from a story taking place outside the prison, though there are a couple of the prisoners and wardens in uniform and the like

Quite a good read all-in -all

[Paul Kearney A.K.A. NEMO]

That's what swayed my opinion to purchase the book Deb

I think there are 12 illustrations in Bolts and Bars

It is mentioned that Harcourt travelled widely to investigate criminals and prisons so there is a chance one of the stories or illustrations will relate to a relevant prison such as Portland

[Debra Arif]

The books are probably worth having for the Alfred Pearse illustrations alone.

[Paul Kearney A.K.A. NEMO]

The description of DD appears non-fiction to me - perhaps with names changed

I'll let everyone know when "Bolts and Bars" arrives and what, if anything, it contains

It sounds an interesting read whether there is anything relevant to the Ripper case or not

As Tom points out, it is a reflection on the prison regime as well as relating the tales of the prisoners

[Tom_Wescott]

Very cool find, Debs. And also to Neems for finding out that he published a book intended to bring about prison reform, and only a couple years before Jabez Balfour would publish exactly the same type of book. This being the case, it's possible they're describing the same suspect. I know it must get tiresome to see Phil Carter and I always agreeing with each other, but once again I agree with Phil that private collections held at universities and the such are likely the great generally untapped resources of Ripperology. I'm certain there are MANY gold nuggets to be mined from them.

Kudos to Neems for ordering a copy of Bolts and Bars. Had you not already done so, I would have, but as it stands I'll be cheap and wait to see what you have to say. LOL.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Debra Arif]

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No kidding!